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Apple Reminds iPhone 5 Owners to Update to iOS 10.3.4 by November 3
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Is it? iOS has NTP and GSM to get time. It might fall back to GPS, but I doubt it would use it as primary method.
It uses GPS as primary, as most phones do. It uses other methods for initial acquisition or when the GPS signal is not available.
That's because tight time sync with GPS speeds up future acquisition of the signal for navigation by reducing the necessary search windows for the spreading codes.
Hmm seems my comment flew right over your head... or you selectively ignored my point I was making.
AH-ha!!! Revelations revealed! It only took 7 years, but finally, the trap is sprung! Waa-ha-ha! What a devious way to “FORCE” a fraction of a fraction of iPhone owners to upgrade. I’m sure Tim Apple rubbing his hands in glee!
oh no, they’ll lose GPS and perhaps have to set the clock on their phone manually - if they don't “upgrade”. The unimaginable horror. This is such a far harder ‘slap to the face’ and far worse then any othet previous “gate” incidence.
Or maybe your reaction is just a bit overly dramatic. Like this post of my own is.
More than likely the vast majority of those with iPhone 5 phones haven't been on iOS 6 in a long long time.
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As mentioned in the article, the update was released a while ago (https://www.macrumors.com/2019/07/22/apple-releases-gps-bug-fix-older-iphones-ipads/) and the deadline isn't some artificial one that was just decided on, it's a time when the underlying issue that is fixed in the update will start affecting devices based on the nature of that issue.
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That is certainly quite an attempt to get a square peg into a round hole.
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12.4.3, as of today 😉12.4.2, actually
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12.4.3 was in fact released today.
12.4.3, as of today
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12.4.3 was in fact released today.
Yep.
Or your point didn’t make much sense beyond a weird attempt to attack Apple.
My SE shipped with 10.3.2 and iOS 10(.3.3) is something I miss. The battery life was incredible, like a magic battery. iOS 11 and 12 had convenient features, but the battery life went down to just like the average phones I've had and there is a bug in 12 (even with 12.4.1) that makes Wi-Fi eat up the battery. Gee.... I'm in two minds.
Keep in mind that batteries just degrade over time. Part of it may be reduced software efficiency, sure, but a part may also be battery degradation.
Battery Health is at 90%. Not high but not low either, so it doesn't fully explain the rate at which the percentage in the top corner goes down in front of my eyes, especially on Wi-Fi.
Don't want to be tracked, but carry a device that connects to the pubic internet and cellular networks all day, every day.
They haven't really thought it through, have they...
Move to an android phone and see how many upgrades you'll get after 2 years.
This is a well worn argument, and I understand. I’d want to feel like my replacement were new as well. But it’s really psychological rather than practical. If you do get a replacement unit, and it looks new, acts new, and is warranted as new, are you really harmed? Regardless, I’m hoping Apple will be able to reinstall the software on these bricked HomePods, without having to replace anything.
Looks like you missed the bit where I stated my post was a misunderstanding. No worries.
Certified refurbished products miss the mark quite often. I have had my iPhones replaced several times due to accidental or other damage and I cannot tell you how much worse the refurbished units where - to the point one time I had to return the replacement iPhone same day.
In the end, it isn't that I need a new one, ideally I'd rather they would just fix the homepod that is bricked due to their own misdemeanor. If they can't fix my product, I shouldn't get some random refurbished one of unknown age, no thank you.
Well, it makes sense.... But with it happening on 7 year old hardware - it just really marginalizes the point that he seems to be making: That ‘finally’ there is a clear cut case of Apple “forcing” an OS upgrade on users.
As pointed out, the vast majority will be on iOS 10 already. But even if you’re holding out on iOS 6 and don't want to upgrade because of a love of green felt, skeuomorphism, and glossy icons. Get over it. Apple isn't bringing back that UI. And it's because of speed or slow down concerns, again, it’s a 7 year old phone. Get an iPhone SE they’re like $60 - 70 on Swappa.
Fair enough. That's actually pretty good for a device that age.
The thing is, some people in this thread seem to frame it as Apple having this devious plan where they leave bugs in old OS releases to force people to upgrade. If you really don't want to upgrade, Apple doesn't care. But Apple also isn't going to go the extra mile to provide you with patches for old OS releases.
In some rare cases like this one, they provide point releases for older OSes to fix critical issues for old devices. When they do, though, they don't do so for multiple major releases, just the most recent one. That can be criticized; it would be more consumer-friendly to go the macOS approach and consistently provide some level of patches (especially security-wise) for older releases. Or the Windows approach, which still provides bugfixes all the way back to Windows 7 (an OS more than a decade old) — though do note that Microsoft is trying to get away from such long-term support, and is also no longer successful in the mobile phone area.
If you take that in mind, it's not that Apple really wants to force the iOS 7-and-beyond theme on anyone. It's just that they think it's better, and that most customers either agree or don't care, and that Apple doesn't find it economical to put in any extra effort for the extremely (and increasingly) small number of people who don't.
I mean, really, spoiler alert: Apple is a very opinionated company. And sometimes they get their opinions wrong. But oftentimes, arguably right. You're either into that, or you should be looking at a different brand.
Considering how severe the bug is and how many people still use these phones, I disagree.
No. It only affects the original iPhone 5. iPhone 5c, 5s are SE are unaffected by this because of upgraded GPS recievers.
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Same. Basically i can now sell my jailbroken iPhone 5 that runs 6.1.4. It's only jailbroken for the 6.1.4 downgrade, otherwise i have 10.3.4 installed and it works fine, just a bit slow on iOS 10 as you expect. But the iOS 6 iPhone 5 still makes a great iPod, i kinda miss the headphone jack, and the audio quality is superb aswell.
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5c is unaffected (it shares the same upgraded GPS reciever with the 5s, aswell as battery and LTE bands), so there is no 10.3.4 for that model and will continue to work. It's just the original 5.
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Latest for the iPad 2 is 9.3.5. Well 9.3.6 is the new version for it that fixes the GPS rollover. But the only version of the iPad 2 that is affected by this is the CDMA Cellular model. Not the Wi-Fi only, and the GSM cellular is unaffected aswell. I guess they used different GPS recievers. And the Wi-Fi only iPads won't even have GPS at all so no problem there.
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