It won't affect the SE, the Apple website says "This issue does not affect iPod touch or any iPad models that have Wi-Fi only. It also doesn't affect iOS devices newer than those listed above." (aka iPhone 4s and 5)
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Apple Reminds iPhone 5 Owners to Update to iOS 10.3.4 by November 3
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“This issue does not affect iPod touch or any iPad models that have Wi-Fi only.”
Update your iPhone or iPad software if you're experiencing issues with location, date, and time - Apple Support (CA)
As of November 3, 2019, some iPhone and iPad models introduced in 2012 and earlier require an iOS update to resume accurate GPS location. This is due to the GPS time rollover issue that began affecting GPS-enabled products from other manufacturers on April 6, 2019. Affected Apple devices were...
Thanks for that, but notification isn’t my point. iOS 13.1.4 isn’t out yet, at least not for me, and we have only a week to install it before there are adverse consequences. Time to deploy, Apple.Macrumors had an article about this on July 22, 2019.
Apple Releases iOS 9.3.6 and iOS 10.3.4 With GPS Bug Fix for Older iPhones and iPads
Alongside the launch of iOS 12.4, Apple today released new versions of iOS 9.3.6 and iOS 10.3.4 for older iPhones and iPads that aren't able to...www.macrumors.com
Edit: Holy crap, I’ve been thinking of 13.1.4, while this is all about 10.1.4. I’ll just face palm myself and move on. And I’m leaving my posts up to show that I’ll own a dumb error.
Yes this update is for 4s and 5. Your 5s has newer hardware and doesn’t require updating.
12.4.2 is the most recent version of iOS for 5s, but over the next few years a 12.4.3 could very well be released to address security or other issues.
IPad Mini 2 wifi only just updating to 12.4.2 - stay tuned more what more may happen after this
Apple has started advising iPhone 5 owners to update to iOS 10.3.4 before November 3, otherwise several key functions like iCloud and the App Store will no longer work on their device because of a time rollover issue.
Back in July, Apple released updated versions of iOS for older iPhones and iPads models, including the iPhone 5, to address an issue that could impact GPS location performance and lead to the system date and time being incorrect. The GPS time rollover issue began affecting GPS-enabled products from other manufacturers on April 6, 2019, but Apple's affected devices aren't impacted by the problem until just before midnight UTC on November 3, 2019.
For iPhone 5 and the fourth-generation iPad with Wi-Fi and Cellular, the 10.3.4 update is required to maintain accurate GPS location and to continue to use functions that rely on correct date and time including App Store, iCloud, email, and web browsing. An iOS 9.3.6 update is available for the also-affected iPhone 4s and cellular models of the original iPad mini, the iPad 2, and the iPad 3.
From Apple's support document:
If iPhone 5 models in particular are not updated by November 3, 2019, Apple says users will have to back up and restore using a Mac or PC in order to update, because over-the-air software updates and iCloud Backup will not work.
If you have an iPhone 5, check to make sure your device has updated successfully by following these steps.
The updated software version should be 10.3.4.
- Launch the Settings app on your iPhone 5.
- Tap General -> About.
- Look for the number next to Software Version.
Article Link: Apple Reminds iPhone 5 Owners to Update to iOS 10.3.4 by November 3
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Cool, my old iPad Mini is wifi only- thanks
Wow!! So this is a hard slap in the face to those on here constantly proclaiming Apple ‘never forces you to update’... well here’s the factual evidence they do..
And to those on here proclaiming how good it is off Apple to support its old products... well NO, if you read the story the forces update is to FIX a fault THEY made with its so software! That’s a lot different to offering support for older devices..
And to those on here proclaiming how good it is off Apple to support its old products... well NO, if you read the story the forces update is to FIX a fault THEY made with its so software! That’s a lot different to offering support for older devices..
I have a brand new iPhone 6s plus 128 GB on ios 9.3.3. I presume that will be ok. I intend to keep it as a collectible as I believe the iPhone 6 with ios 9 was the best of apple's renditions. It was the final iPhone that was snappy along with the headphone jack.
That's fine when implementing GPS is the primary function of your device, but it's really just one issue among thousands to consider when building iOS.
Who cares! Let me guess, you still have a VHS, and you have been forced to upgrade to DVD’s. It’s 2019 welcome. Those phones are like 7 years old
So are you one of those on here they proclaims Apple ‘never forced you to update’ then?
And if it makes your smooth iPhone suddenly run like a Sinclair Spectrum then I’d imagine iPhone 5 owners would care.....!!!
I know you are hoping to receive passionate response to your post and I will leave that for someone else.
The GPS Week Number Rollover was far more widespread than a few Apple models.
GPS week number rollover - Wikipedia
"if you read the story the forces update is to FIX a fault THEY made with its so software"
Yes. That's literally one of the things updates do.
(How do you expect to fix a fault without an update? Magic?)
I just reset my old iPhone 5 (running iOS 8.something from memory) the other day for the purpose of completely some old Xbox live enabled iOS games.
I can’t update or the titles will stop working.
Will I still be able use the phone and these apps after Nov 3?
It needs internet access to pop the in game achievements.
I can’t update or the titles will stop working.
Will I still be able use the phone and these apps after Nov 3?
It needs internet access to pop the in game achievements.
I think it's WRONG of Apple to set such a tight deadling for upgrading. WHY? Because it's clear that many people still relying on an outdated iPhone 5 as a primary phone are not tech-savvy at all. Sure there are exceptions, but in general we're probably talking about people who likely have never heard of MacRumors, the old aunties and grandmas that still think their ancient iPhone is "fine just the way it is".
Apple needs to be more lenient and more generous with giving these people a longer deadline. Perhaps one of their nerdy grandsons or nephews will catch news of the Apple upgrade deadline, and then do it for them before it's too late. But again, Apple should extend the deadline. Would it hurt Apple to extend the deadline? No.
Apple needs to be more lenient and more generous with giving these people a longer deadline. Perhaps one of their nerdy grandsons or nephews will catch news of the Apple upgrade deadline, and then do it for them before it's too late. But again, Apple should extend the deadline. Would it hurt Apple to extend the deadline? No.
GPS is the primary method of synchronizing date and time on iOS. Due to TLS/SSL all secure communications rely on proper date. Therefore, proper GPS date operation is not primary, but a critical function. They must spend extra care on it.
Of course, you can see they don't. It's not user-facing or something they can sell, so it gets ignored in today's Apple.
Planned obsolescence. The iPhone 5 shipped with iOS 6. No one in their right mind would ever move off of that. They’re breaking functionality for your phone on purpose so they slow down the phone by forcing users on to iOS 10. Despicable!
#1- the GPS problem is it entirely Apple’s fault
#2- this update came out months ago!
You forgot:
#3- The deadline is not an arbitrary date. It is when the software stops working correctly due to the date.
I have an old iPad 2 and there's no 9.3.6 update available. Last update was 9.3.3.
And me! I'm gonna be there to see what actually stops working since my main phone is an iPhone 5 on iOS 6.
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