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Apple Reminds iPhone 5 Owners to Update to iOS 10.3.4 by November 3

I received this message yesterday on my iPhone 5.

I'm currently running iOS 10.3.3 and my phone works great.

I'm reluctant to do this update but I'll just have to bite the bullet.

I received a warning from WhatsApp that the app will stop running on my device in about 20 days and my banking apps no longer work.

I've certainly got my money's worth out of this device.

I may just get a second hand iPhone SE until the rumoured iPhone SE 2 comes out early next year (although that looks like it will be the same design/shape as the iPhone 8.

The reason I haven't upgraded to a new iPhone isn't because of cost - I just don't need a physically larger iPhone.

I'd be happy for an all-screen small iPhone with FaceID etc...
 
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BlueCreek said:
I know a few people, let’s say, from the older generation, who have stuck with the iPhone 5 and also refuse to download any kind of update, they have also turned off any kind of location / find my iPhone setting the minute they got the phone so they cannot be ‘tracked’. So there’s no hope they will ever download this...
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The only way one can’t be tracked is airplane mode and no WiFi. Having said that, time marches on and this is the way of the world in 2019.
 
[stares at ancient iPod sitting in a speakerdock upstairs with audiobooks loaded on it]

Haven't turned the WiFi on on that device for about six years...

Think it's running iOS 3.1. Zillion audiobooks on it. I keep falling asleep and having to rewind the one that's currently up to bat. Think I've rewound Chapter 3 on that one about 20 times this month.

Not gonna do nada with that iPod's software except wipe the device when I replace the speakerdock with something that likes iPhone XR a whole lot better.
 
NufSaid said:
To support hardware like this that is so old is very generous when you think about it.
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Not when the issue is pure lazy programming on Apple's part. GPS rollover is caused by an ambiguity in date with period 19.7 years.

A very simple way to avoid this problem is simply to set the earliest date possible to the compile date of the firmware. The iPhone 5 came out in late 2012, so with a very simple check, it shouldn't have this issue until 2031 at minimum. All somebody needed to do is hard code in that the date is never earlier than 1/1/2012, and to add 1024 weeks if you hit that check.

And that's the stupid simple way. The right way is to keep a running counter of the last received date stored. If you do that, you only have the issue if the device is left powered off for more than 19.7 years.
 
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NufSaid said:
To support hardware like this that is so old is very generous when you think about it.
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i use an iphone5 in the shop solely as a music player.. so they’re still making a little bit of money from it via AppleMusic.

(fwiw)

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but yes, i’m glad they’re still keeping it running.
 
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LizKat said:
[stares at ancient iPod sitting in a speakerdock upstairs with audiobooks loaded on it]

Haven't turned the WiFi on on that device for about six years...

Think it's running iOS 3.1. Zillion audiobooks on it. I keep falling asleep and having to rewind the one that's currently up to bat. Think I've rewound Chapter 3 on that one about 20 times this month.

Not gonna do nada with that iPod's software except wipe the device when I replace the speakerdock with something that likes iPhone XR a whole lot better.
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I also have a dinosaur iPod Touch stuck on airplane mode that has a permanent home in my bookshelf stereo running iOS 6.1.6
 
I have an old 5S which is unable to upgrade to ios13, because it isn’t supported is that correct?

just trying to reconcile that with this post.
 
Mr. Heckles said:
this is a one off update. It’s not supported after 7 years, it’s not getting iOS 13.
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You misunderstand.

“Not supported” would be if Apple hadn’t released this update, leaving those running 9.3.5 and 10.3.3 hung out to dry with a malfunctioning device. That’s not what happened.

Just because those old devices can’t run iOS 13 doesn’t mean Apple should abandon them. Apple releasing these updates is not something to complain about, even if you’re unwilling to give them credit for doing so.

If you don’t have an iPhone 4s or 5, or a cellular version of the iPad mini 1, iPad 2, iPad 3 or iPad 4, this issue doesn’t affect you. If you’re one of the tens (hundreds?) of millions of users with those devices, I think Apple’s continuing to support those rather old (technologically, that is) devices is appreciated.
 
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Why does this only impact 2012 or older devices? What is a GPS time rollover issue?
The support doc on Apple's website says the issue out of nowhere hit other manufacturers in April, but Apple not till November? I don't get it.
 
RadioHedgeFund said:
You’ve got to hand it to Apple: providing a software update to the iPhone 4S in 2019 is beyond helpful.

Do you see Samsung offering an update to the Galaxy S1? Or Google to the Nexus S? They wouldn’t even bother.
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Does the nexus s or galaxy S2 have this GPS roll over flaw? Seems like apple is just fixing something they didn't do properly in the first place
 
konqerror said:
Not when the issue is pure lazy programming on Apple's part. GPS rollover is caused by an ambiguity in date with period 19.7 years.

A very simple way to avoid this problem is simply to set the earliest date possible to the compile date of the firmware. The iPhone 5 came out in late 2012, so with a very simple check, it shouldn't have this issue until 2031 at minimum. All somebody needed to do is hard code in that the date is never earlier than 1/1/2012, and to add 1024 weeks if you hit that check.

And that's the stupid simple way. The right way is to keep a running counter of the last received date stored. If you do that, you only have the issue if the device is left powered off for more than 19.7 years.
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To be fair, lazy programming happens all the time all over the place nowadays because no one is patient enough to wait for anything. Or, I can say since they are running faster and faster, there is no way for them to slow down to do anything.
 
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