Not if he didn't buy those models. If he bought the lowe tier version that is available now why would he expect the performance of a higher tier version that is no longer available. None of the online models have it. If he bought it in store at those prices and received something else he has a good point. If he ordered online and didn't pay attention to the specs that are clearly shown at purchase not so much.
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Apple Removed the Radeon M370X from new 2015 MBP!!!
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Which is one of the reasons why I'd rather have a late model 2015 MBP that they've had years to work the bugs out then a totally brand new model that is untested.
I've seen too many fail especially when utilized. They had repair programs several years in a row with 2011 being the worst. The problem is that the refurbished parts used to perform the repair don't last anywhere near as long as the originals.
I haven't heard any complaints about those, and they aren't the first generation of a redesign. In that sense they might be a safer option. You have two good options. One is to check the specs on refurb models. The other is to look for clearance items. Try Best Buy, Adorama, and B+H. All 3 have good deals at times.
If he paid 2900 and change with the edu discount, and no dedicated card, he got shafted. The maxed out 15 was 3199, I know as I bought 2 over the last year, one just a week ago. Both have the dedicated card, 2.8, 1tb, 16gb.
So, after all that you turn out to be an employee? Bahahah!
EDIT: For those who aren't aware. EPP = Employee Purchase Plan (-25%).
I'm not an employee and I don't work for Apple, but I'm entitled to the discount. http://www.beneplace.com/ibmer/
Actually I misspoke, I used my student discount. http://www.apple.com/us-hed/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro
Thanks, but I don't live anywhere near Boston and I already purchased a refurbished unit about an hour ago. The refurb was like $126 more then yours, but it does comes with 1-year of AppleCare.
That was the new new one I bought last week which arrived today. I returned that one to my local Apple store and then purchased the refurbished.
Sorry, I misspoke, it was $2629, but now they are sold out of refurbished units again.
Yours is cheaper than anything I saw on eBay. It's an ok price, I would buy it if I didn't already buy the refurb. I don't mind paying an extra $129 for the AppleCare and I've had really luck with Apple's refurbs in the past... I prefer buying direct from Apple. Also I only do arms length cash transactions through craigslist.
Which gets to the real question: Will the 460 actually work? Because if it did, that would be a pretty big argument in favor of tolerating the keyboard for a year or two.
If it's in the specs when you hit purchase, it will work. It's not like they soft-disable gpus. That would be an absurd business practice for any functional component. My main issues is that gpus have been a frequent point of failure in otherwise functional macbook pros. I had some annoying swollen battery deaths as well on the pre-retina models, but battery service is less problematic than logic board replacement.
How the **** am I suppose to know that not all models of the 2.8 GHz have the M370X? Seriously, how the **** am I suppose to know? Everything I read said that the 2.8 GHz ALWAYS includes the M370X. No where on Apple's site does it tell you that the M370X does not come with this model anymore. They just completely removed all traces to it on the site, so when I ordered the 2.8 GHz I just tacitly assumed it came with the M370X even though they didn't explicitly mention it. I had no ****ing idea it was an optional component. Apple clearly did not make this clear, as even a computer engineer with 20 years of experience got confused by this. This is a material misrepresentation in my book.
How did I not do my research? Are you ****ing kidding me? I made a whole ****ing spreadsheet with even z-score indexed values for **** sake...
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B84n60csy_WqV015bC1KV3BVMEU
This is fraud, and I can't believe you are defending them.
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I mean, regardless you look at the specs of the specific product you're buying to, well, see the specs of the specific product you're buying. I don't know why you'd consult an archival support document instead of your actual invoice, shopping cart, and configuration page of the thing you're dropping two thousand dollars for.
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It's not fraud if the spec sheet of, once again, the product that you configured, sitting in your cart, clearly listing all of its specs off does not contain the GPU. Yes, it sucks that they removed it, but it's up to you to look at what you're buying and not random archival support documents and wikipedia entries. The primary source of information is Apple itself.
Its hard to feel sorry for you when you state so eloquently that your order did not include a dGPU.
Earlier this year I had to replace the motherboard on my 2011 MBP 15" because the AMD dGPU failed. This was a free repair by Apple, fortunately. Two months ago the graphics card on my 2011 iMac 2011 failed, and this was not a free repair. In the past I had an HP workstation (a big 16" notebook, forgot the type) with on site service. They changed the motherboard 3 times, the dGPU 5 times, and the cooling unit at each event, all at my home. When the technician finished, I asked him to wait and see if the notebook would pass an intensive test-run (fur mark or something like that). Normally the notebook would fail within minutes. HP refused to replace this model with a lesser one known not to have the issue.
Well, I now have the rMBP 15" (2015) without dGPU (the 2.5GHz with i7-4870HQ). I ordered it from a discount on-line store after viewing the recent Apple keynote and realising: no 32GB RAM option, no legacy ports, no mag save, the new keyboard I learned to hate on the 12" MB, the extremely high price. And here comes the funny part: I realised that there was no dGPU when I installed Windows 10 in BootCamp. I wondered since when BootCamp would use the iGPU? I did my research earlier this year and the 2.2GHz was the only version without dGPU available at on-line stores (not Apple).
At first I was perplex like the OP, but when I remembered all the above incidents with AMD GPUs I decided to keep this model. I now have it since two weeks and couldn't be happier. For work I don't need a dGPU and for gaming I have an ASUS Zenbook 15 with the NVIDIA GTX 960m. Nevertheless I performed some tests and realised that the Iris Pro is better than expected: it can drive my 4k display at 60Hz, I can play World of Warcraft at retina resolution smoothly, 3DMark06 is at the level of the Nvidia GTX 650m I had in my older 2012 rMBP (sold now) and only 30% below the GTX 960m in the ASUS Zenbook.