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This decision had nothing to do with business. It was coordinated between the tech giants. All banned him within a 12 hour span not based on any new content... just because.

It's political and follows political pressure from CNN and other MSM outlets to ban Jones.

It is entirely political and has nothing to do with Jones and sure as hell has nothing to do with "hate speech" or violating TOS.

Linda Sarsour
Shawn King
Louis Farrakham
Antifa
Sara Jeong

All have free and open access to every tech giant platform. Things are about to pop off in a way they haven't since the 1960s. I sincerely hope people are prepared for what they are unleashing.

I'll join you down that rabbit hole.

I've heard people say, this is about the children the Trump administration separated at the border to create his own underground child sex slave ring. See how it makes sense with them banning Alex Jones?? It's all connected.

*put on tin foil hat*
 
There is zero doubt in my mind the US is headed towards civil war. Just today Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens were attacked while minding their own business eating breakfast. They had drinks poured on them and needed police protection to get out of the restaurant unharmed.

So conservatives are being attacked in the streets on a semi-regular basis and now they are being banned from access to any digital platform. The only alternative conservatives have at this point won't be pretty. We are absolutely headed to civil confrontation not seen since the 1960s.

Funny, imagine how it would read in the history books. Much of the country believing in complete verifiable lies, reaching unrest as people who are sick of those spreading verifiable lies start to attack the source. Meanwhile, a foreign power is verifiably trolling the population with verifiable lies with the goal of creating civil unrest that could lead to situations exactly like that. And for now, you'll blame the left.
 
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You are misconstruing what I'm saying if you think I'm doing anything of the equivalent. "Liberals" is in reference to people. "The Right" is in reference to current political strategy.

But you introduced the equivalency yourself in your statement. Re-read it again, I’m not sure how else it can be interpreted. Liberals are people with their opinions but the right is some kind of homogeneous entity?
 
Welcome to the profession, and congrats! - you are in for a journey.

I quickly glanced at your list - please tell that is Arlington, TX because Arlington, VA is 100% not conservative.

As you progress along in your education - I'm sure you will ultimately understand that humans will find any statistic to support their own innate cognitive biases. It's normal. The ultimate goal, especially for someone entering the field of medicine, is to fight the urge of these confirmation biases and understand why the data exists.

I can rattle off many examples of conservative states/counties/cities that are either crime ridden, grossly in debt or highly taxed - and majority white - that's super scary. But that's easy. What hard is understanding why, and letting that inform my assessment rather that confirming my biases. White or black - poverty cares not for race. Conservative or Liberal, crime and poverty go hand in hand. Conservative or liberal - Americans all share the same dream for themselves and their children - to have a home, raise their kids in a safe environment, and have them lead successful lives.

I challenge you to not let your biases control you. It will serve you well in the profession you have now chosen, and I guarantee you won't miss a diagnoses because you suppressed your bias that the patient you were seeing was only drug seeking.

Best of luck.
Hey thank you. Yeah, I unfortunately (or fortunately!) made the tough decision to walk away from a great job with Porsche to go back to school. I have my conservative/libertarian beliefs politically, but taking care of people regardless of what they look like or believe in will always come first. I have worked in an ER for a while now and as frustrating as that can be, at the end of the day, it's about taking care of people which is why I made the big sacrifice to go back. I will never be blinded by a differing opinion and my approach to treating patients. At the end of the day, these disputes are meaningless. That is the other part that saddens me about how far apart the country is and will continue to be.
 
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Of course it’s a free speech issue. Apple is censoring his content. You can agree all you want with that decision and that would at least be an argument predicated on some kind of logic. Instead, you continue to deny that a plain-as-English censorship action is somehow not censorship.

It's not a free speech issue. His speech hasn't been affected, just the platform it's distributed on. Your logic thus far insists that unless every person has free access to any platform at their discretion, supplying any content they choose, there can be no free speech.

You don't understand free speech, our constitution, or even basic tenants of the free market.
 
I can agree with that. And if there were left leaning equivalents to Alex Jones I would have no problem with Apple not allowing them to be on their platform.

Southern Poverty Law Center inspired a mass shooting and killing which they have still not disavowed to this very day.

The Young Turks are genocide deniers and peddle in conspiracy theories regularly. They also constantly spread hate and violence against those they disagree with politically.

Sarah Jeong is an virulent and unalloyed racist who has full access to every tech monopoly platform.

ANTIFA is a domestic terrorist organization whose sole purpose for existing is to commit violence against their political enemies.

Shawn King is a white man pretending to be a racist black man who pushed false stories in order to race bait and lives in the world of conspiracy theory. He spews racial hatred every single day.

And that's just for starters. We can keep going all day long.

By the way, how would you feel if, under Trump, any criticism of Christianity was deemed hate speech by executive order and all tech giants had to remove all atheist content, or any left-wing content that said any disparaging comments about Christians or Christianity? I sincerely hope he does that just to watch the reaction on the left.

You guys would start frothing at the mouth and going into convulsions.
 
There is zero doubt in my mind the US is headed towards civil war. Just today Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens were attacked while minding their own business eating breakfast. They had drinks poured on them and needed police protection to get out of the restaurant unharmed.

So conservatives are being attacked in the streets on a semi-regular basis and now they are being banned from access to any digital platform. The only alternative conservatives have at this point won't be pretty. We are absolutely headed to civil confrontation not seen since the 1960s.
The persecution complex in this post is amazing. People are being shot based on their race. People are having their children taken away as a deterrent to immigration. But you're concerned that a civil war is coming because two people had drinks poured on them.

:rolleyes:
 
It's not a free speech issue.

Of course it is.

His speech hasn't been affected, just the platform it's distributed on.

Of course it’s been affected. Why else would they bother if it had zero effect? His speech on that platform has been censored. He can no longer exercise speech there. I never claimed this affects him anywhere other than Apple Podcasts.

Your logic thus far insists that unless every person has free access to any platform at their discretion, supplying any content they choose, there can be no free speech.

Negative. This is a strawman conclusion you are drawing yourself. I said nothing of the sort.

You don't understand free speech, our constitution, or even basic tenants of the free market.

I’m not sure what you base this sweepingly silly conclusion on. I’m not discussing the constitution. Apple isn’t the government. And I’ve repeatedly said they are free to do this, so I’m unsure why you think I don’t have a grasp of the free market.
 
There is zero doubt in my mind the US is headed towards civil war. Just today Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens were attacked while minding their own business eating breakfast. They had drinks poured on them and needed police protection to get out of the restaurant unharmed.

So conservatives are being attacked in the streets on a semi-regular basis and now they are being banned from access to any digital platform. The only alternative conservatives have at this point won't be pretty. We are absolutely headed to civil confrontation not seen since the 1960s.
You sound like a regular reader of looney toons sites like Infowars. lol

Everything is apocalyptic.
 
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But you introduced the equivalency yourself in your statement. Re-read it again, I’m not sure how else it can be interpreted. Liberals are people with their opinions but the right is some kind of homogeneous entity?

Liberals are people with diverse values is what I said, it's practically inherent in what the term liberal should mean. I did not say the right is a homogeneous entity but their message, right now, is being spread through massive misinformation. One of which is that left=slavery right=freedom.

And yes, if you want to put it more in line with what you're trying to say I said you can just look at the media itself.
 
Social media platforms are not obligated to permit anyone to be on their platforms.

Similarly, television media platforms are not obligated to permit anyone to be on their platforms.

If websites banning users is “censorship,” being unable to have a TV show is “censorship.”
 
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Southern Poverty Law Center inspired a mass shooting and killing which they have still not disavowed to this very day.

The Young Turks are genocide deniers and peddle in conspiracy theories regularly. They also constantly spread hate and violence against those they disagree with politically.

Sarah Jeong is an virulent and unalloyed racist who has full access to every tech monopoly platform.

ANTIFA is a domestic terrorist organization whose sole purpose for existing is to commit violence against their political enemies.

Shawn King is a white man pretending to be a racist black man who pushed false stories in order to race bait and lives in the world of conspiracy theory. He spews racial hatred every single day.

And that's just for starters. We can keep going all day long.

By the way, how would you feel if, under Trump, any criticism of Christianity was deemed hate speech by executive order and all tech giants had to remove all atheist content, or any left-wing content that said any disparaging comments about Christians or Christianity? I sincerely hope he does that just to watch the reaction on the left.

You guys would start frothing at the mouth and going into convulsions.
And, based on this post, you are a right wing conspiracy theorist.
 
Shawn King is a white man pretending to be a racist black man who pushed false stories in order to race bait and lived in the world of conspiracy theory.

Regurgitating racist crap from Breitbart kinda underscores that you guys really don't understand what hate speech is.

By the way, how would you feel if, under Trump, any criticism of Christianity was deemed hate speech by executive order and all tech giants had to remove all atheist content, or any left-wing content that said any disparaging comments about Christians or Christianity? I sincerely hope he does that just to watch the reaction on the left.

Ummm...that would be an actual violation of the 1st Amendment. Thank you for confirming, yet again, that most Trump supporters' positions when it comes to our country really doesn't extend much past "watching lib heads explode."
 
It's not a free speech issue. His speech hasn't been affected, just the platform it's distributed on. Your logic thus far insists that unless every person has free access to any platform at their discretion, supplying any content they choose, there can be no free speech.

You don't understand free speech, our constitution, or even basic tenants of the free market.

I wonder how he would feel if a Gay Rights activist was removed from a Christian television network?
 
Liberals are people with diverse values is what I said, it's practically inherent in what the term liberal should mean. I did not say the right is a homogeneous entity but their message, right now, is being spread through massive misinformation. One of which is that left=slavery right=freedom.

And yes, if you want to put it more in line with what you're trying to say I said you can just look at the media itself.

“Liberal” in American politics, for better or worse, has been conflated with “the left.” And the left is just as guilty of spreading massive misinformation, hysteria, and histrionics as the right is.

Let’s be fair and honest here.
 
The persecution complex in this post is amazing. People are being shot based on their race. People are having their children taken away as a deterrent to immigration. But you're concerned that a civil war is coming because two people had drinks poured on them.

:rolleyes:
Let's get a couple of details straight:
- Where is the liberal outrage about Chicago's horrific homicidal rate which is basically 100% black on black violence? 62 shootings and 10 deaths in the last 3 days. Those guns weren't purchased legally I can assure you.
- Children taken away was a policy that existed under Obama. Trump is enforcing the laws already in place.
- Civil unrest will not come from two people pouring drinks on someone. I hope you are smarter than that. The open calls for violence against conservatives and the continuing open harassment of conservative figures in public will lead to civil unrest.
 
Regurgitating racist crap from Breitbart kinda underscores that you guys really don't understand what hate speech is.

Figuring out what Shawn King is all about doesn’t require reading a silly publication like Breitbart. All it requires is reading Shawn King himself, first hand. The guy is a racist, a liar, and a sensationalist. Kind of like Alex Jones, just on a different side of the political spectrum.
 
Let's get a couple of details straight:
- Where is the liberal outrage about Chicago's horrific homicidal rate which is basically 100% black on black violence? 62 shootings and 10 deaths in the last 3 days. Those guns weren't purchased legally I can assure you.
- Children taken away was a policy that existed under Obama. Trump is enforcing the laws already in place.
- Civil unrest will not come from two people pouring drinks on someone. I hope you are smarter than that. The open calls for violence against conservatives and the continuing open harassment of conservative figures in public will lead to civil unrest.
You have no idea how obvious it is reading posts like this that you frequent right wing websites on a daily basis. You've got every fake story and talking point ingrained into your head and ready to repeat at a moments notice.

and here you are pretending to care about open calls for violence when you support a president, a PRESIDENT who talks **** about minorities, spreads conspiracy theories regularly, and literally offered to pay the legal bills of those who attack others at his rallies. You don't have credibility to discuss these topics.
 
I would rather be right wing and know about all the worlds problems where as the left all they wanna do is be a snowflake its becoming a horrible world shame apple has joined this virus infowars says a lot of good things

This isn’t a right or left wing issue. I’ve seen snowfakes on both sides. This is a free speech issue. He should have been left alone. Now he will we looked as “edgee” meanwhile he is a complete tool of a buffoon. In his earlier years he was a conspiracy hereorist now he’s turned all religioney. This is now going to increase his popularity as before most people didn’t gve a ****.
 
Southern Poverty Law Center inspired a mass shooting and killing which they have still not disavowed to this very day.

The Young Turks are genocide deniers and peddle in conspiracy theories regularly. They also constantly spread hate and violence against those they disagree with politically.

Sarah Jeong is an virulent and unalloyed racist who has full access to every tech monopoly platform.

ANTIFA is a domestic terrorist organization whose sole purpose for existing is to commit violence against their political enemies.

Shawn King is a white man pretending to be a racist black man who pushed false stories in order to race bait and lives in the world of conspiracy theory. He spews racial hatred every single day.

And that's just for starters. We can keep going all day long.

By the way, how would you feel if, under Trump, any criticism of Christianity was deemed hate speech by executive order and all tech giants had to remove all atheist content, or any left-wing content that said any disparaging comments about Christians or Christianity? I sincerely hope he does that just to watch the reaction on the left.

You guys would start frothing at the mouth and going into convulsions.

How many of those are Apple letting on their platform? The Sarah Jeong thing is more conspiracy, maybe you should actually dig up those tweets and see what she was actually saying?

How would I feel if criticism of Christianity was deemed hate speech? Kind of like I've felt my whole life in the US? Big difference is I don't have to make up stories about Christianity leading to mass murder and lies, it's all out there in plain sight...and I'd criticize the Muslim religion just the same. And Athiests too, screw them trying to upset religious people. If you don't believe in something, who gives a crap? No need bothering others with that.

By the way, you "sincerely hoping he does that just to watch the reaction on the left" is EXACTLY, EXACTLY what I'm referring to. You want to see people incite unrest, then you want to blame those who are restless. Some American you are.
 
Regurgitating racist crap from Breitbart kinda underscores that you guys really don't understand what hate speech is.



Ummm...that would be an actual violation of the 1st Amendment. Thank you for confirming, yet again, that most Trump supporters' positions when it comes to our country really doesn't extend much past "watching lib heads explode."

Exactly. This is the public agenda, it may not be all of the people on the right, but this is the agenda. Make people upset. Blame the people who are upset for being upset.
 
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