I’ve read her tweets. They were racist. Period. Calling it anything else is disingenuous.
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I’ve read her tweets. They were racist. Period. Calling it anything else is disingenuous.
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One and the same.
Awesome! We will go with fortunately!
It's tough out here especially online. There really is no filter between the frontal lobe and the keyboard. Zero inhibition.
There are positive and negatives to those raw emotions.
What impresses me the most - is that people are now validating information, going through the struggle of researching - and sometimes, recognizing differing opinions are like flavors of ice-cream - and then realizing - OMG we all like ice-cream.
Liberal or conservatives both don't like chilling speech. Who would have thought that. I personally think that things sometimes get raw when the impact of decisions effects liberals/conservative disproportionately.
Personally, I identify as liberal, but I have a lot of strong conservative views (especially in marriage/family etc) - had very conservative parents. But would I be this nonchalant if a prominent liberal voice were banned from private companies platforms - I damn sure would be. But if they were far left, peddling conspiracy theories - I would give 0's. Because I personally don't identify with anything that isn't evidence-based.
But for those who are die-hard Alex Jones fans and support his views - I 100% understand what they are feeling. They have lost their voice from a handful of major platforms. And yes I have listened to him before - purposefully to hear what the other side has to say every now and then and get myself out of my silo.
I do agree with what you said - I don't see this level of polarity slowing down. There are so many root causes it hurts my head just thinking about it. Every issue is a hot-button issue.
I will level with you - I don't know if you've experienced this - but sometimes its hard to have a meaningful conversation with someone who doesn't have all the information and then on top of that refuses to learn. I can listen all day long to someone from the other side teaching me something I don't have a clue about - and exposing me to something that is novel - but if that same level of willingness to learn isn't reciprocated - I'm done. Especially if they are completely out in left field.
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"At the end of the day, these disputes are meaningless."
This somehow escaped my response. You hit the nail on the head. End game scenario - meaningless. In 5 years - these words written today will be forgotten - unless you walk away from this discussion by learning something deep/profound. Isn't that crazy?
Forgive me if this was addressed as I have not read all of the posts, but even hate speech is and should be protected speech. Did Apple ever even say what that "hate speech" was, or is this their opinion? I have seen people call things hate speech all the time that are just disagreements. Example...I have seen people saying abortion is wrong being classified as hate speech against women. In reality it is just an opposing view that some want censored. We have to be careful when we call differences of opinion hate, and again...even hate speech is and should be protected.
The government being responsible for 9/11/2001 is true. It is not a conspiracy theory.
Be a patriot. Not a blind sheep.
Be a patriot. Not a blind sheep.
Did you almost say fair and balanced? Because like, that's how this whole mess started. "I don't believe what you're saying fits with my reality, so I will balance it out with my own bias". I don't believe in false equivalencies, so no, the left is not just as guilty. Having ever been guilty is not the same thing, we're living in a whole society of confirmation bias and lies on one particular side of the political spectrum right now. It's never been this bad on any side, ever, and you can even trace its roots to stupid as politicians who can't grasp facts such as Sarah Palin.
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And you think it's true because...someone told you to believe it, with a whole bunch of nonsense from "some guy on the internet". I watched the videos, I've heard the theories, they're all massively flawed.
Gay rights advocates are allowed on Christian television networks now? Seriously, where are they allowed on any Christian networks?
False equivalence is not fair and honest. The left does not currently engage in the same level of misinformation as the right by any objective measure.
All over the internet.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=chicago+homicide+rate&atb=v100-7__&ia=news
Nope.
This is what your own confirmation bias is telling you. Widen your perspective. There is a lot of atrocious crap going on in the left as well. Digging into that is way beyond the scope of this thread and entirely off-topic, but the fact that you think the scales of righteousness are tipped in favor of your side is an assumption you may wish to revisit.
Her tweets were repeating the things that people said to her but changing the races around. They were stupid, as they can obviously be perceived the way you are.
Ok let’s be honest. No, the left isn’t “just as guilty.” That is a false equivalency.
Considering I'm a conservative, I really don't think so.
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In my analogy, I was assuming the activist wasn't out of the closet when he got his show. You know damn well he'd be removed instantly.
I suspect we may not agree on everything politically, but how refreshing it is to have cordial dialog. I am certainly guilty of typing something and then later realizing "damn, that was just inflammatory and not well thought out..." I think I have become very sensative to the political tension due to my 2 young daughters (4 and 1). I just get the sense that intolerance is becoming widely accepted that's disconcerting. I actually finally decided to go into medicine because I prefer to see the better side of humanity and realize our political differences, while can cause much consternation, don't matter in the grand scheme. We have got to figure out a way to coexist and I think getting back to basics with recognizing humanity must come first. I'll still be of the belief that limited government, low taxes, more individual rights, and less interference are the best ways to go about governing people.
This is some conspiracy:
So you are OK with that criticism, including the words you used in your own post, being banned and censored across all tech platforms? Some people could find them offensive or deem them to be "hate speech".
I'm not an American. I'm Canadian. And I want the rules to be applied evenly. If the goal is to remove "hate speech", it needs to be applied to anti-Christian posts, or even posts that question Christianity in any way. After all, such comments can be seen as offensive and "hate speech".
If you like censorship, then let's do censorship right. Let's have full blasphemy laws implemented.
It doesn’t matter what she claims her motivation was. The tweets were objectively racist.
Point still stands. I live in a left wing city, so maybe I’m exposed to insane opinions that you’re not seeing.
To be fair, if you spend your days watching Fox News and reading right wing websites you could easily be fooled into thinking the left is just as dishonest as the right.
I thought you were interested in being "right". Do you have any evidence that they are the same?
Come on man, I can see you're not dumb. You have to see what's going on. If you haven't seen it, I would encourage you to take a step back. We have it in the White House, misinformation and lies that can hardly be contained by his own staff. A website like Snopes is no longer to be believed simply because the people who ran it had a party affiliation. Where is the conservative version of Snopes? I NEED to see that.
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To be fair, if you spend your days watching Fox News and reading right wing websites you could easily be fooled into thinking the left is just as dishonest as the right.
That's their mission, if you see people who say the words "mainstream media", you know that's where it's coming from. This is no popular "alternative" left wing media.
Hey we have at least two things in common - we like Apple's products and we use the dark mode duckduckgo search engine. At least that's a start.False equivalence is not fair and honest. The left does not currently engage in the same level of misinformation as the right by any objective measure.
All over the internet.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=chicago+homicide+rate&atb=v100-7__&ia=news
Nope.
False. You are peddling your leftist disinformation.
Almost every racist tweet was a standalone tweet, NOT a reply. Furthermore, nobody has been able to show any harassment or racism directed towards Jeong on Twitter prior to her racism tweets becoming public.
She is a racist who spent years saying racist things and typing racist tweets. Full stop. All of the liberal spin in the world won't ever change that.
This took me 5 seconds to find:
Analytics shows that InfoWars.com has 16.96 million visits in the last six months. CNN.com has 516.96 million visits in the same time period.
Alex Jones' show has 5.9 million weekly listeners below contemporaries like Mark Savage and Rush Limbaugh, and far below NPR's All Things Considered at 14.6 million.