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Apple Removes Fortnite From App Store [Update: Epic Files Lawsuit Against Apple]
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Their case is pretty clear and listed in their documentation for the App Store. Other than that, Apple doesn’t need to do anything.
Because that's not their whole intent. The idea is to have your own store, complete with the customer data that you want. The money from those data is way huge than some millions for lawsuits. I mean they are learning form the best, Tencent.
Honest question, could Fornite players not go through a web browser to buy bucks (or whatever they’re called) to use in the iOS game?
So Epic is just looking for special treatment? No other store exists on iOS, so they just want to have special treatment then?
I think that’s the point
if Apple gets attacked by EU, US, Microsoft, Facebook, Spotify, Epic then they must be wrong. Right?
by the way I disagree with that notion and wish those companies recognized what harm can it bring to all of us using their devices
I thought the issue wasn't that you can't pay for stuff outside of the App Store, its that you can't have a direct link to link you outside of the app and to a page where you can pay. From what I remember, with 1Password, you CAN pay in-app, or you can pay outside of it, but there is no link in the iOS app to take you to the page to pay. And with Netflix and Hulu, it tells you to go to the page to signup, but doesn't provide the link.
It can still be played on iOS and Android, too. I’d like to check their financials to see when is their slowest sales of the year (I’m guessing August-September) but, nahhhh
This will all be over within a couple weeks when Epic uploads a compliant version of the game. The biggest downside for them will be that I‘m sure misbehaving companies apps are given more stringent review for awhile.Yes you do, IF you use the Microsoft Store or the App Store. Steam, Epic, Origin, and other stores take a cut. Microsoft and Apple's stores take 30% cut. If you use your OWN distribution platform, since its YOUR OWN, nothing gets taken out. Why is this difficult to understand?
It's not special treatment, it's what the law requires. If Apple doesn't like US laws, it can cease operations in the US. What makes this so high stakes is that if Epic wins, it can open Apple up to felony charges per section 2 of the Sherman Anti-Trust act.
Then this should be a global change. Stop Steam, Epic Game Store, Origin, Windows Store, macOS App Store, Google Play Store from charging fees per purchase too. Or do you just want this change only to Apple because its "cool" to bash Apple? If so, why does Android's Google Play store get a pass with its 30% cut too?
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I have never heard of any law stating "Apple must allow third party stores on iOS".
Not really the same thing.
Better example: Car dealer sells you a car and in the fine print in the purchase agreement it says you will only fill up gasoline at that dealer chain with a 30% fee. Car has a locking gas cap and only the dealer has the key. If you tamper with the gas cap then the ECU will brick the car.
Three years later the car breaks down and when you return to the authorized dealer they tell you "I'm sorry this has a third party battery; it can't be repaired. We will give you a $200 discount off a new car..."
Okay. Then let's agree that Sony, Microsoft, Steam, Epic, Origin, WIndows Store are all guilty of this. Let's not just say Apple is evil when there are MANY others that have 30% fees.
I wonder how many iPhones fortnite shipped or rather how devices fortnite shipped
Its exactly the same thing. In the agreement I said I agreed too said I cannot post content of types X Y Z, .... If I suddenly do so, I am in breach of that agreement. JUST like what happened here. Epic developers agreed that in app purchased would be used. They broke that agreement.
Which is worth it to Epic because they are undoubtedly paying Apple way more in IAP.
Epic clearly wanted to get kicked off the App Store, they got their wish.
Because its "cool" to hate on Apple. That is all. Really I do not understand this either. They turn a blind eye for Google, but mention Apple and OH BOY people start complaining like CRAZY. It makes ZERO sense.
Because it’s not. Period.
It’s a radically different operating system. From it’s inception MacOS was built to be very open. iOS was designed with a totally different paradigm.
And MacOS isn’t “very secure”. One bad app can wreak havoc across the entire system. iOS was built to sandbox everything.
It’s never been about right or wrong but about control and who ultimately ends up with it.
It's called the Sherman Anti-Trust Act of 1890, and Apple/Google/Amazon etc have been flouting it for the better part of the last decade (hence the recent Congressional hearings). Essentially, if Apple wants to operate a store, that's fine, but it has to allow other stores (or another means to install software) on iOS/iPadOS too. Or, Apple can ditch the App Store and third party apps and the law will no longer apply.
The government used the same law against Microsoft in the late 1990s, when they only permitted Internet Explorer by default. It's a pretty powerful law that prevents any sort of monopolies within a marketplace (and I think we'd all agree that the App Store is a marketplace).
I don’t want that to happen.
don’t you have android for that?
I actually like that there’s one app source and less noise
The very nature of allowing a user to download an app from a website, and launch it on their own is the definition of insecure. Download this update to your flash player that is 100% NOT from Adobe!