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It’s no different than your favorite brick and mortar store or any other digital store. They are well within their rights to receive a cut for the services and audience they provide developers.
It's a lot different as the developers are forced to publish through Apple. B&M stores don't have that constraint.
 
Good. Fortnite doesn't provide third parties a way to sell within its game. Why should Apple allow them free real-estate for customers that Apple worked to build?

Apple's store. Apple's rules.
The iOS app store belongs to apple but those customers don't belong to apple
 
This is the most tryhard effort I’ve seen yet. Fortnite is a single video game, not an all-purpose operating system with a giant competitive software economy as its main selling point. Good grief.
Fortnite sells things. Apparently, to a few people, the moment you start selling a thing, you are no longer able to make business decisions regarding HOW you sell those things.

I find it incredible that Apple were ever allowed to open the App Store in the first place, based on that.
 
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Physical media doesn't really provide price advantages for customers though. It's typically either the same price or higher for things like games, movies, music and books. Digital, in general, is viewed by consumers these days as the cheaper route. Game console markets, which Epic obviously participates in, are usually just the hardware manufacturer's digital store + more expensive physical versions.

Maybe when you buy physical new, but pretty quickly you can normally pick up a second hand copy for cheaper from GameStop, eBay, or Amazon.
 
It’s no big deal, just sell your house and buy a new one in the next city over where they have more stores to choose from. It’s totally reasonable.
Depends. If ”having more stores” is more important than “local schools”, ”the job you currently have”, and “keeping a stable address”, etc. then that would be a totally reasonable thing for someone to do. I wouldn’t understand it and would never recommend it to anyone, but sometimes you have to do what you have to do even though it doesn’t make sense to others.

Now, if “having more stores” IS really that important, then I would suggest that the person ensure they don’t get too attached to anything in their current locale. Because, there’s always the possibility that some other area will have MORE stores and they’ll have to move again.
"Hey kids! Wanna play Fortnite? Great! You can play it on literally any device other than an iPhone or iPad right now."
You do know that’s also true for 99.999999999% of all the triple-A games that NEVER see an iPhone release, right? LOL
Not surprising in the least :)
 
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Good. Fortnite doesn't provide third parties a way to sell within its game. Why should Apple allow them free real-estate for customers that Apple worked to build?

Apple's store. Apple's rules.

Explain Netflix.
 
Fortnite sells things. Apparently, to a few people, the moment you start selling a thing, you are no longer able to make business decisions regarding HOW you sell those things.
Were you asleep regarding the fiasco with Fallout 76 and the questionable stunts Bethesda tried to pull? There are rules regarding how you sell things regardless of them being government rules or contextual agreements. Given the Valve Is Now Investigating The Epic Games Store issue a year ago which was also questionable behavior by Epic I am more inclined to side with Apple.

Nevermind Google also pulled the game from their store for much the same reason Apple did: "Google said it also removed Fortnite from the Play Store because of policy violations" And if you are wondering, yes Epic is suing Google as well.

You cannot say you are going to abide by a contract and then ignore it. What worries me is that later versions of those agreements could include binding arbitration clauses.
 
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Maybe when you buy physical new, but pretty quickly you can normally pick up a second hand copy for cheaper from GameStop, eBay, or Amazon.
With nearly everybody getting on the digital download bandwagon I have to ask what second hand copy?
 
I’m with Apple. This is a blatant violation of store policy to which they agreed. Imagine if an employee or even a business partner decided to start his own business using your office, your equipment, your support And keep all the profits. Would you not fire them? Of course you would.
 
Why, because you want it?

I don’t. I went Apple to get away from such foolishness.

No, not because *I* want it, but because it's fair.
You would still be free to go to Apple if you so choose, but it should be your choice.

Also, I do not want Apple to dictate what I can and what I cannot have as app (app censorship).
 
No, not because *I* want it, but because it's fair.
You would still be free to go to Apple if you so choose, but it should be your choice.

Also, I do not want Apple to dictate what I can and what I cannot have as app (app censorship).
Apple doesn’t dictate what you can and cannot have as an app. You are always free to buy a phone from someone other than apple, and use any apps that are available for that phone.
 
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Also, I do not want Apple to dictate what I can and what I cannot have as app (app censorship).

Everything you read and watch and listen is curated and decided upon. Yet this you call ‘Censorship’?

You won’t see pro LGBT content on Breitbart. You’ll not find in-depth conservative views on Huff Post. The Christian Post has scant little information on Athiesm. Fox News is not the place to watch pro Democratic stories, equally CNN is going to be light on pro-Conservative information.

Is that censorship?

Google ban apps that circumnavigate their security. Is that censorship?

As for consoles; you’ll not find any titles rated Adults-Only. Is that censorship?

Why does everyone want to single out Apple when they’re doing what other online electronic software stores also do.
 
No, not because *I* want it, but because it's fair.
You would still be free to go to Apple if you so choose, but it should be your choice.

Also, I do not want Apple to dictate what I can and what I cannot have as app (app censorship).

I would like my favourite Japanese restaurant to serve french cuisine as well.
 
John Gruber has an interesting take on this. Consoles do the same thing Apple is doing, but Fortnite isn’t attacking the console makers. This is a stunt for them to maximize their profits and get a bunch of attention.

 
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Great analogy, the App Store was never about choice! I think I get it now!

I think Apple could certainly do better when it comes to articulating the value added by the App Store.

I can say with 100% confidence that the reason why I am more willing to purchase many of the iOS apps that I have is because I can easily install them with a tap from the App Store. Just as important is that I know I can just as readily get rid of that app if it turned out to be not for me. That was the reason I decided to try it and Apple deserves credit for that.

This is precisely Apple’s argument (which again, I wish they would do a better job of articulating) - It’s not just that they have a “monopoly” on iOS devices. It’s that they’ve created such a trusted environment filled with customers who have credit cards already on file that trying and buying apps is far more frictionless than it would be elsewhere. Try to get users to visit your website or download your installer and set up a new account and key in their payment information and most studios are just not going to have anywhere near the same adoption rate.

That’s valuable and it’s significantly more valuable than simple payment processing, which is what I see many critics essentially trying to denigrate the App Store to - a glorified payment processor. Why should Apple be barred from capturing that value, when they are the one who made this paradigm possible in the first place?

Now we can argue how much Apple should take, how much Apple should allow different business models, whether they should be more or less strict with curation, etc. But Epic’s argument is that Apple should get nothing. And suing Google at the same time - who allows sideloading - seems to lay that bare in my mind. If there was no value in an App Store other than monopoly, why was Epic ever in the Play Store? Why sue to get what you already have (an alternative option for install)?
 
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Consoles are not general-purpose computing platforms essential to everyday life with an enormous and varied software economy. If you think of the iPhone as “yo check out my new game console I just got, it plays all my games and that’s it” you’re probably pretty unique.

So the law is somehow different because iphones are “essential to everyday life” and consoles aren’t?

What is the statute you are referring to?
 
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