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Apple Removes Parler From App Store Due to 'Inadequate' Measures to Address Dangerous Content
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Bravo! Yelling FIRE in a crowded theatre isn't allowed. The 1st amendment has nothing to do with this. Apps or publications that encourage violence and spread demonstrably false material deserve to be run into the ground. Private Companies still don't have to take orders from one man or one party.
And it's gone:
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Parler has now been booted by Amazon, Apple and Google
Parler, the alternative social media platform favored by conservatives, now finds itself virtually homeless on the internet as Amazon, Apple and Google have all booted it from their platforms in a span of a little more than 24 hours.
No matter what side of the argument one lands on, these actions set a new precedent for communication gatekeeping and information sharing. How much power are we willing to yield to such gatekeepers?
It's not a new precedent, it's been that way forever.
There is a difference between reasoned, polite dissent, and providing a platform for dissemination of misinformation or other kinds of communication designed to incite violence or distrust of well-established societal norms (e.g. the rule of law and the democratic process).
Unfortunately, platforms like Apple, Google, Facebook, Twitter et al can't make a fine-grained analysis of all of the content that flows through their platforms, so they are left with the unfortunate nuclear option of just suppressing all content - irrespective of its merit.
Free speech (and the 1st amendment if you live in the USA) has limits and responsibilities. It's pretty clear that these limits have been crossed on many of these platforms. It's not a question of the political left or right - it's what the impact of the message could be, and whether it constitutes a "robust forum for debate" or a platform for incitement.
It's a very hard call, but I think Apple made the right one in this case.
I respectfully disagree, but if I say anything more I might get moderated.
Big difference. Parler talk is “all nig#+#^ should be hung by a tree like their ancestors and we should gut fa;&(ots up their ... throw moltitov cocktsins in the window of...” and mean it. That’s not protected by the fifth amendment and their threats did they mean to carry out that is the kind of **** you see on parler. Every other platform with block the post and Bam the user for posting it.
Please explain*. Are you saying that in a Capitalist Economy, a Private Company actually has a choice in who they deal with?
Goes off to meditate on the terms Liberal Economy, Capitalist Economy, and the like...
* For Australians, the term "Please explain" has a very definite meaning, originating from this section of a 60 Minutes interview in 1996
She is Australia's equivalent of Ted Cruze, Josh Hawley and the Trump sons (except Barron, we don't know what Barron is really like) rolled into one.
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Honest question - are they a private company or a publicly traded company?
Alright now 2021. Already off to a great start! We don’t need to deal with any of that bullcrap this year! January 6th was enough. Silence all of them.
I just checked the top 30 U.S. trends. It’s not trending, but when it was shown in the sidebar earlier today for me, I checked it out. It was mostly people discussing some MAGA terrorists who were saying that on Wednesday while they were breaching the Capitol building.
Anecdotal, of course, but among my friends who are pretty universally left-of-center to far-left, I’ve never heard one suggest that Mike Pence should be hanged.
The Republican Party that loathed outsider Donald Trump from the very beginning? The one that stabbed him in the back, almost universally?
It’s quite evident that the Republican Party is indeed everything you said you would want. But of course, you’re just lying. No surprise.
Leftists who now would point fondly to George W. Bush as as contrast to Bad Orange Man were the same ones calling him “Bushitler” for 8 years while red in the face from screaming.
Meanwhile, the Left has gone so far off of a cliff that they have endorsed and organizationally embraced non-stop street violence (actual violence, murderous, massively destructive violence), and define social justice to include giving pre-teens liberty-blockers until they can figure out their gender?
The mad and depraved *always* wildly accuse everyone else of what they so clearly are themselves. Without laughable projection of their own hatred and depredations, the left would be left with nothing.
Yeah they should. They have the 1A rights to. The 1A also allows anyone who doesn't like that to go start their own platforms. I agree it's scary to have power consolidated in tech firms, but there's nothing the government can do about this without violating even more freedoms.
I'm still optimistic that information is still flowing more freely than it ever has, thanks to the Internet. Parler can run a website they host themselves, just like 4chan does. Twitter is pretty free, though. Plenty of anti-Dem people and ideas are on there, nothing stops them.
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They are a private company that is publicly traded. “Private” in that the government doesn’t run it; “publicly traded” in that effectively any adult with the money to do so can buy shares. Contrarily, “public” means the government runs it and “privately held” means that not just anyone can invest.
They would still need one to do that, but that's indeed not Apple's problem.
Agreed. Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act makes it completely unnecessary for Apple to be acting in this manner.
"In other words, online intermediaries that host or republish speech are protected against a range of laws that might otherwise be used to hold them legally responsible for what others say and do." - EFF
The point of Section 230 is so that Facebook, Google, Apple etc don't need to run amok with their lawyers banning every other user in case of lawsuit.
The bar should be extremely high for censorship. As in, so high that it's nearly impossible to reach it. Hating Trump isn't a good enough reason. Liberals get so triggered by the bad orange man, it's unreal. This is Trump-ban domino effect. I knew it wouldn't stop with him, I knew libs in power wouldn't be able to help themselves by only going after the bad orange man.
Also an honest question - What does this have to do with their rights to not have to deal with somebody?
Where would you put the bar, above or below threatening to kill the Vice President and Speaker of the House?
Apple is not censoring anybody. They simply don't want to sell a particular product via their store. Any shopkeeper in the country has that right. If you have the Parler (not Parlor) app on your phone, it still works. You can still foment revolution via the app. The FBI might want to have a quiet chat with you, but that's a different matter.
Did you miss the news that, after Sunday, with their host AWS booting them, that’s not an option, either.
And that’s just the thing about censorship - it never ends! It only ratchets.
And how about this convenient timing. It’s almost like 6 states shutting down vote counting, at the same time, with Donald Trump leading massively in each. And then, the next morning or over the next few days, somehow losing each and every one by a small fraction of his prior lead following massive violations of fair election practices and standards.
And you good Ger... liberals immediately falling right in line.
The total lack of shame in telling obvious lies with a straight face is the Leftist’s superpower.
Isn't the inability to be a little bit civilized and not repeat lies and spew hatred on one hand and know how to spell properly (or even use a spellchecker) on the other hand twice the same root cause: lack of education ?
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