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I agree. 2.8 million watches is way too low. There will be a waiting line (virtual and physical) that will be quite surprising.

On another note, folks are hung up way too much on battery life. My hunch is the Apple folks know who their target audience is on this one.

Water resistant is a given. Water proof unnecessary.

Folks will have two chargers: one at home; on at work. When at work, on the computer, the watch will be charging; when it's time for the meeting, on goes the watch; when it's time to go to the gym, on goes the watch; when it's time to drive home; on with the watch.

When home, the watch will be charging; no need to wear the watch when surfing the net on the iPad or doing work on a laptop/desktop.

LOL at that insanity. If that is truly Apple's model for the use of its wristwatch, the executive team is even dumber than I thought.
 
Kuo notes that Apple may reveal more details about the Apple Watch before its official launch, revealing specifics on battery life and the start of pre-orders.

Oh Really! I would have never guessed Apple would be announcing specific details about the shipping version of its watch before pre-ordering starts. :roll eyes:
 
I believe Apple watch will wither on the vine. It'll be similar to when Rhumba was for sale, the robotic vacuum cleaner. I sent it back because, I figured, all I needed was yet another device that I have to spend time over the phone with technical support, or pore over forums and articles in the search to find solutions to this or that niggling issue. Having to trouble shoot a laptop and a phone is sufficient for this user, thank you,

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that the Roomba went away after you purchased one and deemed it unworthy. Truth is, iRobot is many generations in with multiple Roomba models, and they're very highly reviewed. amazon link

The watch probably isn't for you, and that's okay! No one will force you to buy one, and your laptop and phone will continue to do just fine for you.
 
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Your comment reminded me of this.

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It's not quite the same (Apple isn't a monopoly). But if Apple really thinks the way you do and has gotten so big it doesn't care anymore what its customers think, because they just assume they'll sell millions no matter what -- then that's pretty dangerous for the future of the company, and sad for those who remember a time when it felt like Apple was about more than just selling millions of gadgets.

no, you don't get to turn this around and make it about YOU and your OPINION again (the general 'you'). that was his point. Apple - arguably the best mobile/tablet/computer maker in the world, catering to hundreds of millions of people with an industry-topping high satisfaction rate - aren't going to stop what they're doing and cater to the ridiculously low minority of people with 'problems'. or 'opinions' about how 'crap' an unreleased product is or will be.

NO TECH COMPANY WOULD, COULD, OR SHOULD.
that's what returns, repairs, and customer service is for.

oh, and voting with your wallet. so do so.
 
I think 2.8 million Apple Watches is a little on the low side.

Just in the first quarter; probably limited by yield and availability. There will probably be a thread on this forum about "I just got my :apple:Watch" for months and months well into the late summer.

I wonder if anyone has ever tabulated how reliable this analyst actually is. He sure gets a lot of play on MacRumors. Some of what he says is just plain obvious, though.
 
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I will definitely be holding off until apple watch 2.

My needs:
wear in shower
wear while sleeping so I can track sleep and have a vibrating alarm so I don't wake up my partner.
36 hours battery life so I can wear at night

Why on earth do you wear a watch at night?
 
Just in the first quarter; probably limited by yield and availability. There will probably be a thread on this forum about "I just got my :apple:Watch" for months and months well into the late summer.

I wonder if anyone has ever tabulated how reliable this analyst actually is. He sure gets a lot of play on MacRumors. Some of what he says is just plain obvious, though.

I agree, yield might be the factor holding back sales rather than the demand for it- which should be very high. Can't wait to get one on my wrist for sure, plus any friends or co workers want one too. Roll on March.

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Why on earth do you wear a watch at night?

Why wear a watch in the shower? That's a need?? Guess u don't have a fancy clock in your bathroom like I do. Besides, shower time is relaxing time and for me, I don't watch the clock when I'm in it. ;)
 
Is it true the iwatch can project holograms? If that's really true I bet they sell a lot more than predicted

1. There is not such thing as an 'iWatch', it is called 'Apple Watch'.

2. Seriously, where on earth do people hear these things? No, of course it cannot project holograms.
 
If the only purpose of the port was to charge and transfer data, that might be the case. But the Lightning Connector was designed to do so much more. The main advantage is that the pins can be dynamically reassigned to do different things at different times. This allows it to also be an audio/video out port and I believe that there were other purposes foreseen as well.

One could argue that these other uses of the Lightning port are rarely used by most people and that they can be replicated by Airplay/Bluetooth. So maybe Apple would decide that the extra functions aren't needed. But to just say that Apple chose a proprietary connector just to be different is wrong. They chose it because it offers additional capability that a normal USB connector cannot.

I agree! This site seems to be the center of people who think they're the center of the universe but turned out just to be a bunch of whiners.
 
If I could the issues would probably be fixed already. There're numerous reports about WiFi issues along with iOS 8.x and OS X 10.10.x in this and other forums.

I for myself experienced only milder forms of issues, like iOS devices crashing the whole WLAN and the inability to connect my Macs to the WLAN. Luckily they used to happen only randomly at my home. Others don't have so much luck.

But there are still unfixed interoperability issues between AirPort Time Capsule (802.11ac), iOS devices (Apple TV, iPad, iPad Air) and Macs (Mini 2012+2014, Air 2013+2014). Same devices didn't have any issues with predecessor software.

It'll be interesting to see how the new iPhone accessory called "Apple Watch" will behave under these circumstances.

I have that time capsule and all the iOS devices - Various Mac pros inc new one - Macbook air and retina plus a Mini 2012.

No drop outs or issue here. I wonder if it's a component part in some of those Time capsules then?

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Why on earth do you wear a watch at night?

What part of "vibrating alarm so I don't wake up my partner." don't you get?
 
I agree! This site seems to be the center of people who think they're the center of the universe but turned out just to be a bunch of whiners.

It never used to be, but the influx of new members who know next to nothing about tech and use the forums as a chance to slag off Apple and big up Android is getting really annoying.
 
Can't wait for the new macbook air: its design, features, and the display.
 
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that the Roomba went away after you purchased one and deemed it unworthy. Truth is, iRobot is many generations in with multiple Roomba models, and they're very highly reviewed. amazon link

The watch probably isn't for you, and that's okay! No one will force you to buy one, and your laptop and phone will continue to do just fine for you.

You're mistaken. The issue is refusal to get on hold with technical support for a vacuum cleaner meant to replace a vacuum that required no support. Same for a watch.
 
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I see a lot of people here stating that they are waiting out for the second or even third gen Apple watch. Would it also be smart to wait out for the 2nd or 3rd gen retina macbook air? I remember when the 1st air came out, it was outrageously priced and had mixed reviews, however in subsequent generations, it only got better. Also, I too and begging to think that the 12 inch Macbook Air and iPad pro are the same thing. Makes sense for Apple to get into this market as Microsoft has been doing exceptionally well in this area with the Surface tablets. Just makes too much sense to me.
 
Someone posted earlier that being able to try on what is to many quite a personal taste on their wrist (aka a piece of jewellery as opposed to a piece of tech), is going to be interesting. In the likes of a department store you look at a say £200 watch behind glass, ask an assistant and try it on.
This is rather a different model to an apple store where the goods are on display but with significant locks on them. Ensuring people can try them on without having a massive lock on the underside for example will be interesting..

I'm still on the fence on this one... The compromise of the display not being always on to battery life might be annoying. I've switched my Garmin vivosmart back off from this feature; 1) it drained the battery quicker from all the times I lifted up my arm not to tell the time, and 2) the number of times it didn't actually work when I did lift it up to look at it was too many. That said I've had notifications on my wrist for nearly a year now and I like it a lot - being able to action those notifications would make it better. I do wonder whether I should just get a pebble for a year and watch what happens...

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I see a lot of people here stating that they are waiting out for the second or even third gen Apple watch. Would it also be smart to wait out for the 2nd or 3rd gen retina macbook air? I remember when the 1st air came out, it was outrageously priced and had mixed reviews, however in subsequent generations, it only got better. Also, I too and begging to think that the 12 inch Macbook Air and iPad pro are the same thing. Makes sense for Apple to get into this market as Microsoft has been doing exceptionally well in this area with the Surface tablets. Just makes too much sense to me.

You'd think aside from size this is an area Apple should have a reasonable grasp over. I know I'm glossing over the fact of dropping a retina screen in a thin case, but you'd hope this one would work.
If I hadn't got this MBP last year I would be all over this new Air like a rash.
 
Do some people really wear their watch in the shower? Are they just trying to time themselves?

I can understand if someone argued about being to wear a watch while swimming, but the purpose of a shower to scrub every little dirt off your body. Wearing any accessory would get in the way of that that task no?
 
I will definitely be holding off until apple watch 2.

My needs:
wear in shower
wear while sleeping so I can track sleep and have a vibrating alarm so I don't wake up my partner.
36 hours battery life so I can wear at night


Love this post! It's so indicative of what's wrong with people these days. Let's take a closer look -

You need to wear this in the shower. You NEED to wear this in the shower. NEED. hahahahaha...really? Do you really?? Oh my god.

You also NEED to wear this while sleeping and have a vibrating alarm. What happens if you don't wear this while sleeping? I mean, what's happening to you now, how are you possibly surviving!?

You NEED a 36 hour battery life so you can wear it at night. Now, I don't know what part of the world you live in, but the night does not last 36 hours.

I hope you examine your 'needs' closely and re-evaluate. Bottom line is, if you genuinely need this stuff - you are in serious trouble and headed for massive disappointment.
 
It's actually hilarious to listen to you guys complain and point out why you won't buy it. Apple is actually aware of every single objection you have. Raising your objections here over and over again will get you nowhere. The watch will be what it will be in it's first generation. And Apple knows it will sell a millions of them without your participation. And they don't care. So, instead of moaning and groaning, find another solution that will make you happy. I promise you that Apple won't mind one little bit and your lost sale will be insignificant. You aren't nearly as powerful as you'd like to think you are.

The interesting thing is that people actually seem to think that Apple has to choose one or the other. Like releasing the Apple Watch is what all thousands of Apple employees are doing right now.
 
I'm curious about the Apple watch, but I know I won't be buying one until there is GPS built in, until it has better battery life, until it is proven to be a successful product, etc.

In terms of the MacBook, TAKE MY MONEY!
 
I'm curious about the Apple watch, but I know I won't be buying one until there is GPS built in, until it has better battery life, until it is proven to be a successful product, etc.

In terms of the MacBook, TAKE MY MONEY!

Same here i wouldn't buy one unless it had GPS built in, but then it would have to be a lot bigger and heavier because it would have to have a much larger battery as GPS uses a lot of power. So i think it will be a few generations in before i get what i want, all GPS watches are massive. To combine GPS with a fully functioning wrist computer and keep it small and light, Apple will really have to move technology along if the are to achieve that.
 
Comparable devices (using comparable tech) take about 2 hours from dead to full. Not saying Apple's device will be the same, but a 15 minute charge, even from 20% is likely pushing it a bit. I would be pleasantly surprised if it charged from 1/4 to full in anything under an hour.

The limitations would be charging circuit and amp output of the charger. Not sure why other devices would take 2h? There is absolutely no reason why it should take the same time to charge a phone with a battery 6 times larger, no electrical engineering reason at least.
 
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