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I just want a macbook air with retina display.

And have sex with Jessica Alba………… TONIGHT!

Lmao, just tonight man., I'd have her every damn night with 10 more children. She's really as sweet as she comes off to be, my sister coereographed her Honey club scene and wouldn't introduce me argh! (Yes she's in the credits).

Would love to see slate black option for the MBP/MBAir lineup this year

The Watch 2.8 million units shipped only with ceo brandishing one back in October? You're going to see huge lineups, and remakes of 100% markup on kijiji!!!!
 
iOS and OS X work perfectly for me. Not a single problem. (...) It's actually hilarious to listen to you guys complain and point out why you won't buy it. Apple is actually aware of every single objection you have. Raising your objections here over and over again will get you nowhere. The watch will be what it will be in it's first generation. And Apple knows it will sell a millions of them without your participation. And they don't care. So, instead of moaning and groaning, find another solution that will make you happy. I promise you that Apple won't mind one little bit and your lost sale will be insignificant.

Your comment reminded me of this.


It's not quite the same (Apple isn't a monopoly). But if Apple really thinks the way you do and has gotten so big it doesn't care anymore what its customers think, because they just assume they'll sell millions no matter what -- then that's pretty dangerous for the future of the company, and sad for those who remember a time when it felt like Apple was about more than just selling millions of gadgets.
 
I'll be getting the watch when it finally comes out, but this being the most personal of Apple devices it doesn't seem right that I would have to pre-order it online without ever having tried it on my wrist to see which size works best or which strap I prefer. I would assume Apple has considered this and there will be an opportunity to try in-store before ordering? Thoughts?
 
I think it's pretty funny that so many people are lining up to buy a product they know pretty much nothing about just because Apple made it. I sure hope the Apple Watch delivers upon the hype. I don't wear a watch a....

There are pretty much all the details at Apple.com/watch. Just go over and read them. So I pretty much know all about it.
 
And you expect it to be fully charged by the time you're dressed if you plug it in right before the shower? Unless Apple implements ultra-fast charging in the Watch, that's unlikely to happen.

The watch will have about 1/6 the battery size of a Phone. You can charge a Iphone 6 in 130 minutes. So, that would mean 25 minutes for the watch if its completely dead. Most times it won't be. So, if your watch is at 20-30%, you could charge it in 17 minutes. That's not a very long time at all. Shower and basic grooming would last at least that long, so you could pick up the watch right after that.

Ultra-fast charging would mean it is charged in 10-15 minutes, with topping off taking 5-10 minutes. Would be possible, but not really necessary.
 
The more i hear about the this watch the more i can see apple laughing at people buying the top end watch that will be superseded with 12 months.
 
The watch will have about 1/6 the battery size of a Phone. You can charge a Iphone 6 in 130 minutes. So, that would mean 25 minutes for the watch if its completely dead. Most times it won't be. So, if your watch is at 20-30%, you could charge it in 17 minutes. That's not a very long time at all. Shower and basic grooming would last at least that long, so you could pick up the watch right after that.

Ultra-fast charging would mean it is charged in 10-15 minutes, with topping off taking 5-10 minutes. Would be possible, but not really necessary.
That's... Not exactly how batteries work. You can't calculate charge times proportionally based on the capacity and charge time of a different battery.
 
2015 4k Display?

where is the New Thunderbolt 2 4k display?? How long do we have to wait? Please don't make me get the new LG.
 
The watch will have about 1/6 the battery size of a Phone. You can charge a Iphone 6 in 130 minutes. So, that would mean 25 minutes for the watch if its completely dead. Most times it won't be. So, if your watch is at 20-30%, you could charge it in 17 minutes. That's not a very long time at all. Shower and basic grooming would last at least that long, so you could pick up the watch right after that.

Ultra-fast charging would mean it is charged in 10-15 minutes, with topping off taking 5-10 minutes. Would be possible, but not really necessary.

Comparable devices (using comparable tech) take about 2 hours from dead to full. Not saying Apple's device will be the same, but a 15 minute charge, even from 20% is likely pushing it a bit. I would be pleasantly surprised if it charged from 1/4 to full in anything under an hour.
 
Hehe, why are two wrong?
Two were wrong because they aren't proprietary connectors, they are industry standard connectors. It has been more than a decade since Apple last sold a Mac with any proprietary connector. They only use industry standard ones.

Apple always tries to make a big shift in ports but it never really worked. When all devices used a regular usb port, they came with FireWire and 30-pin. When everyone uses HDMI ports, they use Thunderbolt. When everyone uses micro usb, they use Lightning.

FireWire operated at 400Mbps in 1994. USB 1.0 came out two years later, and was only capable of 1.5Mbps.

As far as I know, Apple was the first major PC manufacturer in the world to ship hardware with USB ports, but being hundreds of times slower than FireWire meant it simply could not compete.

Even today, FireWire is still faster than USB although the performance gap is much smaller now.

HDMI 1.2 and earlier have a maximum display resolution of 1920x1200,. Apple has been selling screens with higher resolution than that for more than ten years, but HDMI could not drive large displays until version 1.3 of the spec which still pretty rare among PC hardware today. That is why Apple never supported the HDMI standard.

MicroUSB only has five pins, and older iOS/iPods required 30 pins - there were no unnecessary pins on the 30 pin connector. Modern iOS devices have more powerful software and are able to send things (like video) digitally instead of over an analogue connection, so they only require 8 pins... but that's still to many to use a MicroUSB connector.

Thunderbolt is very similar to FireWire, it's essentially a newer version of the same thing. Where FireWire maxes out at 800Mbps, Thunderbolt currently does 10,000Mbps and is expected to hit 100,000Mbps in future (according to Intel that speed can be done now, but it's too expensive to be made available to the public).

Sure, these ports may do a better/faster job, but the peripherals that make use of them are so expensive, no one buys them.
They are more expensive because they do things that USB is not capable of doing.

In the end, it's just a nuisance. Because, next do all your other devices, you still need to bring ''special'' Apple cables.

Agreed. But there is no good alternative, either Apple needed to use proprietary connectors or produce inferior products with less features (eg, lower resolution screens that work with HDMI, video cameras that take hours to transfer short video clips over USB 1.0 instead of seconds with FireWire, iPods that don't have analogue video output cables to play video on your TV, etc)

But USB 3.1 changes all that, it increases the speed to be the same as Thunderbolt, more than 10x faster than FireWire, and it can drive high resolution displays the same as HDMI 1.3, and it can do 100 watts of power in both directions, and it's also dirt cheap when you're just plugging in a keyboard and don't need all of those features. USB 3.1 is the solution to a previously unsolved problem, and Apple looks to be the first company to ship hardware using it.
 
I agree. 2.8 million watches is way too low. There will be a waiting line (virtual and physical) that will be quite surprising.

On another note, folks are hung up way too much on battery life. My hunch is the Apple folks know who their target audience is on this one.

Water resistant is a given. Water proof unnecessary.

Folks will have two chargers: one at home; on at work. When at work, on the computer, the watch will be charging; when it's time for the meeting, on goes the watch; when it's time to go to the gym, on goes the watch; when it's time to drive home; on with the watch.

When home, the watch will be charging; no need to wear the watch when surfing the net on the iPad or doing work on a laptop/desktop.

Yeah, can't wait to constantly take my watch on and off depending on what I'm doing. No offense, but if you're even remotely accurate in your description then the watch will be a colossal pain in the ass.
 
Is it true the iwatch can project holograms? If that's really true I bet they sell a lot more than predicted
 
Yeah, can't wait to constantly take my watch on and off depending on what I'm doing. No offense, but if you're even remotely accurate in your description then the watch will be a colossal pain in the ass.
Maybe it's just some weird genetic quirk, but I come from a family where taking one's watch off every once in a while during the day is totally normal. If anything, I'm not going to want to take the Apple Watch off unless I have to, which will be out of character for me and my normal watch habits.
 
Hehe, why are two wrong?

Because your post referred to those two as examples of proprietary ports and they are not.

Moreover, your broader point is only marginally correct. While Apple has championed several proprietary connectors over the years, it has also advanced a number of worthwhile non-proprietary standards. The classic example is the original iMac, which used USB ports (and none of the previously-standard Apple proprietary connectors) well before the computer industry had embraced USB. In fact, at the time the iMac was introduced, there was not a single printer or scanner that would connect to it -- Apple bet the farm on a non-proprietary industry standard.

Also, Apple's proprietary connectors have a very good track record. As one example, the 30-pin connector survived for years and years across several iOS product lines.
 
But to just say that Apple chose a proprietary connector just to be different is wrong. They chose it because it offers additional capability that a normal USB connector cannot.

I think Apple was pretty happy to make it proprietary.
 
On another note, folks are hung up way too much on battery life. My hunch is the Apple folks know who their target audience is on this one.

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Folks will have two chargers: one at home; on at work. When at work, on the computer, the watch will be charging; when it's time for the meeting, on goes the watch; when it's time to go to the gym, on goes the watch; when it's time to drive home; on with the watch.

When home, the watch will be charging; no need to wear the watch when surfing the net on the iPad or doing work on a laptop/desktop.

Introducing the new Apple Watch. The wearable you'll never actually wear!
 
iOS and OS X work perfectly for me. Not a single problem.

Not for me. There are still serious WiFi issues in current iOS and OS X versions. These issues substantially impact WiFi performance or even break the WiFi connection completely. Even when only Apple products are involved.

For me it's absolutely clear who's to blame. Apple. Sure, they are completely aware of the mess the've delivered to their customers. What I absolutely dislike is how Apple handled these issues. It seems like the customer satisfaction isn't be their fist priority.
 
How much does KGI Securities analyst Ming Chi Kuo pay to be featured on this website?

Quite a lot I am guessing seeing he is an investment guy and if he can portray that lie that he knows more than other people he will get suckers to give him money.

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Not for me. There are still serious WiFi issues in current iOS and OS X versions. These issues substantially impact WiFi performance or even break the WiFi connection completely. Even when only Apple products are involved.

For me it's absolutely clear who's to blame. Apple. Sure, they are completely aware of the mess the've delivered to their customers. What I absolutely dislike is how Apple handled these issues. It seems like the customer satisfaction isn't be their fist priority.

Can you please explain to me how these 'serious' Wifi issue occur. I have 6 macs here and about 12 iOS devices for testing and they are all on wifi and all work fine.
 
iOS and OS X work perfectly for me. Not a single problem. I'll be up a midnight to pre order the Apple Watch. The more of you who stay away from it, the easier it will be for me to get one. Waterproof, I don't need. I don't need to wear it in the shower.

It's actually hilarious to listen to you guys complain and point out why you won't buy it. Apple is actually aware of every single objection you have. Raising your objections here over and over again will get you nowhere. The watch will be what it will be in it's first generation. And Apple knows it will sell a millions of them without your participation. And they don't care. So, instead of moaning and groaning, find another solution that will make you happy. I promise you that Apple won't mind one little bit and your lost sale will be insignificant. You aren't nearly as powerful as you'd like to think you are.

Great, It'll be easier for me to preorder an iPad Pro if you get a Watch instead. Enjoy your 2" screen :p
 
Two were wrong because they aren't proprietary connectors, they are industry standard connectors. It has been more than a decade since Apple last sold a Mac with any proprietary connector. They only use industry standard ones.

FireWire operated at 400Mbps in 1994. USB 1.0 came out two years later, and was only capable of 1.5Mbps

To be fair, USB was available before FireWire. And FireWire was heavily developed and pushed by apple. Certainly it was used by Sony and others, but I'd say it least had a "feel" of being proprietary. If nothing else, no one had FireWire connectors except apple. They were I link or 1394 connectors. The USB brand was used by all, but Apple didn't share FireWire.

To me it always seemed like a fledging connector Apple couldnt get off the ground. Technically maybe not true, but perception can be 9/10 reality.
 
I don't know why this thread was even started, there is nothing new in the opening post, the watch was always going to be released about march, i think Apple said this from the off, and to say early 2015 for the 12" Air is nothing new either, its early 2015 now. If this guy thinks he has inside knowledge, why doesn't he have any more details on the Air, like specs and a more accurate delivery date.
 
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