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“We love the environment and are taking steps to reduce our impact.”

Also Apple,

“Buy a new phone every 12 months. Ignore the e-waste and negative effects of mining raw materials.”

They were promoting trade-ins. That way the stuff is recycled.
 
The fact that Apple should now be held in as high regard as Ford dealership

Apple compared to a.... Ford Dealership? Apple is it’s own entity, and highly recognizable because of their back history with Jobs and his legacy. They’re held to a higher standard not because just of their products, because of their practices and values. I don’t think your analogy is very appropriate.
 
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You're right, it is more of a gamble in the third-party repair world. But there ARE good places out there that will do a repair cheaper than Apple will.

This is very true, and I actually highly respect those who are legitimately working hard to create an alternative for customers, especially in places where there isn’t an Apple Store for miles.
 
I don’t know what the big deal is. My girlfriends restaurant always pushes soda products on people when they ask just for water
And I would simply stop visiting that restaurant, which is what Apple will see happening if they continue down this path.
 
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Up selling is common in every business ever hear the kid behind the counter at MC Donalds say back to you when you say i'll have a burger and fry and they say will that be a Large fry.
 
Having worked in retail (a LONG LONG time ago) I can agree with that. Some people expect everything they buy to last FOREVER. I'd have people bringing in phones (I'm talking cordless house phones - that's how long ago I worked retail..) that were 6 years old DEMANDING a repair and adamantly REFUSED to just buy a new one. "This should not be broken!"
I’ll second that. Worked at Big Blue and everything is supposed to be indestructible.
 
Sir.. Your option is $329 for your 6 Plus out of warranty repair or $749 for the New XR upgrading you 4 years.

It sounds terrible that they gave customers options.

Only though their 6 Plus had a 1080p display, a headphone jack, and maybe larger storage. Maybe the 'sir' would not want to give up on that? Or maybe doesn't have 400 to spare?

"Costs more, does less" is the motto atm
 
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Yup. I can confirm this happened to me. My iPad Pro (first gen) died suddenly. It’s 3 years old, so out of warranty. I took it to Apple to have it looked at and when it was determined it had to be replaced, the Genius actually made a case for buying the latest and greatest model, actually pitching a sale. She then walked me over to the iPad Pro table and not only convinced me (I didn’t need a lot of convincing, I was already planning on buying the new one), she actually processed the sale. I found it odd and a departure from previous experiences with Apple Geniuses. When did Geniuses ever sell product?
Shame you don’t have our U.K. consumer laws, I be speaking to the manager if my first gen died after 3 years luckily enough it’s still going strong
 
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Only though their 6 Plus had a 1080p display, a headphone jack, and maybe larger storage. Maybe the 'sir' would not want to give up on that? Or maybe doesn't have 400 to spare?

"Costs more, does less" is the motto atm

Sigh. Are people really still fixated on 1080p on a SIX INCH screen? Between that and a headphone jack, the 6 is DEFINITELY an overall better phone.... ::facepalm::
 
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Only though their 6 Plus had a 1080p display, a headphone jack, and maybe larger storage. Maybe the 'sir' would not want to give up on that? Or maybe doesn't have 400 to spare?

"Costs more, does less" is the motto atm

Or maybe the guy has $400 and didn’t know about the new iPhones? And wants to use wireless headphones? We don’t know everyone’s situation so you can spin this however. The point is the staff member is providing options.
 
Sigh. Are people really still fixated on 1080p on a SIX INCH screen? Between that and a headphone jack, the 6 is DEFINITELY an overall better phone.... ::facepalm::

yes, 1080p on a 6 inch screen is kinda the norm nowadays. Let's not make it too specific though. Point is, for whatever reason, maybe the fictional "sir" doesn't want to splurge 400 extra for the latest model.

PS. 6" 1080p and with higher ppi density. Whichever way you put it, Apple totally slummed it with the XR display.
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Or maybe the guy has $400 and didn’t know about the new iPhones? And wants to use wireless headphones? We don’t know everyone’s situation so you can spin this however. The point is the staff member is providing options.

Let's not confuse upselling with "options", shall we
 
yes, 1080p on a 6 inch screen is kinda the norm nowadays. Let's not make it too specific though. Point is, for whatever reason, maybe the fictional "sir" doesn't want to splurge 400 extra for the latest model.
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Let's not confuse upselling with "options", shall we

I don't really care what the 'norm' is, it's just that it is a silly thing to argue and the vast, vast majority of people don't care....like, at all....what their phone's screen specs are - or any other specs for that matter. They want good battery life and good cameras - period.

And the fictional "sir" doesn't have to spend $400. Who is making them? Nobody. I would think a fictional "sir", who doesn't have $400 to spare (as you contend), would be responsible enough not to spend $400 he doesn't have. Furthermore, if he does, it isn't Apple's fault for suggesting the option.
 
Pushed upgrades aren't necessarily bad but Apple customers still have fresh wounds from the recent forced upgrades.

There were no intentionally "forced" upgrades. It was just a series of poor decisions trying to retain a good experience for existing customers. It's not like Apple executives directed their teams to devise a way to slow down iPhones, and include that in an update without mentioning it. Their intentions were good, but the execution was poor. Spin it however you want, that doesn't change the facts.

Apple clearly learned from that experience, since the XR is a BEAST of a phone with great battery life!
 
I don't really care what the 'norm' is, it's just that it is a silly thing to argue and the vast, vast majority of people don't care....like, at all....what their phone's screen specs are - or any other specs for that matter. They want good battery life and good cameras - period.

And the fictional "sir" doesn't have to spend $400. Who is making them? Nobody. I would think a fictional "sir", who doesn't have $400 to spare (as you contend), would be responsible enough not to spend $400 he doesn't have. Furthermore, if he does, it isn't Apple's fault for suggesting the option.

Well, for one thing, you and I cannot speak about the vast majority of people.

For another, whether Apple is at fault or not depends on how intensely they've been suggesting the option.
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Apple clearly learned from that experience, since the XR is a BEAST of a phone with great battery life!

It's a 720p bezel-licious potato without 3D Touch that I'm hesitant to use even as a free-office-phone-upgrade (we're getting them next month, and meh).
 
I willingly walked into my carrier, asked for an XR, and walked out without paying anything up-front. Yes, I had to start a new two-year commitment, my plan had to change, and the price went up by $15/month. But the phone is great, and the plan I have meets my needs well. I'm happy and don't feel the pain of how expensive the latest Apple devices are.

Except when we get to the Mac mini... what a joke that is! $1000 for the base model (in Canada).
 
Meh... all this hullabaloo over declining iPhone sales will settle. The market is changing as the smartphone market matures people are keeping their phones longer because the advances in features have slowed and become more incremental. This does not affect just Apple but all smartphone manufactures.

For my first 4 iPhones I was on a 2 year upgrade cycle but then came the iPhone 6 and I kept that one happily for 3 years before upgrading to iPhone X which I intend to keep for at least 3-4 years since purchase before upgrading. Buying an new phone every year never made sense. The 2 year upgrade cycle worked in the first few years of the smartphone revolution because the leaps and bounds made in 2 year cycles was worth it and carrier subsidies made it financially sensible.

Without subsidies and with slower technology advances most people are not going to shell out $600-$1500+ every year or two for a new phone. That is the reality that the entire industry will need to adjust to. No worries though everyone will still keep on buying smartphones it will just be on a 3-4 year upgrade cycle for most people.
 
I see all these hot takes that Angela Ahrendts was ‘fired’ because of [insert complaint about Apple stores here]. What if she decided to leave because she wasn’t comfortable with some of these tactics to increase sales?
 
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Well, for one thing, you and I cannot speak about the vast majority of people.

For another, whether Apple is at fault or not depends on how intensely they've been suggesting the option.
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It's a 720p bezel-licious potato without 3D Touch that I'm hesitant to use even as a free-office-phone-upgrade (we're getting them next month, and meh).

Naw, I'm 100% confident in saying the vast majority of people do not care about phone specs.

XR is 1792p.
 
Not good. Not good at all. I see all these hot takes that Angela Ahrendts was ‘fired’ because of [insert complaint about Apple stores here]. What if she decided to leave because she wasn’t comfortable with some of these tactics to increase sales?

Or, what if she was fired because she was useless.
 
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