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I think Apple is going to have to refactor itself if it intends to release a new major product every few years. Businesses that get too big for their own good tend to have to do this after awhile. Perhaps they'll spin off a company, maybe one dedicated to the watch.
Spin off Beats into its own company not affiliated with Apple and let Eddy go run that.
 
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dear apple,

please don't. you're allready in over your head with new hardware and buggy software that leaves much to be desired. the world doesn't need even more tv-content, especially when it's as prudish as your app store.
 
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They are killing it with Beats 1. Curating talent in film and television isn't so far fetched. All Netflix does is basically hand over a big bag of money to the content creators and their ideas, and then being mostly hands off during the process. It's a model that can work really well. The content creators themselves LOVE it.
 
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dear apple,

please don't. you're allready in over your head with new hardware and buggy software that leaves much to be desired. the world doesn't need even more tv-content, especially when it's as prudish as your app store.
Oh I doubt it would be prudish. More likely it would be agenda pushing or trying to be 'hip'.
 
Great. So Apple is getting into the the entertainment industry. That worked really well for Sony.

Meanwhile, the Finder doesn't auto-size columns so that one can actually see long file names, nor is their a preference setting that enables this. And the last 2 updates of OS X nearly destroyed my system, causing me to have to use Time Machine to reconstruct things, costing me an entire work day in the end on each occasion.

So, Apple, expand into new territory if you wish, but pull your finger out and start making the software and hardware reliable again.
 
I just don't see how this makes sense. I don't see how this fits - apple doesn't make content, they provide content delivery products (iPhones, iPads, etc) and products that create content. Its like them trying to develop a TV, high risk, low margins.
 
Feels a bit like Sony buying CBS and Columbia in the late 80's and trying to become a "converged" media and devices company.

That was the start of a long painful slide.

Edit: I see Eidorian wasn't born this century either! :)
Edit: or Vulchr
Edit: or iapplelove

(Wow, I wonder if these folks were all, like me, huge Sony fans in the 70's to early 80's, only to be sadly disappointed as Sony completely lost the plot?)
 
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Don' t do this Apple . Focus onguur hardware and software. NOT content.

But if they are really going for this, then buy Netflix , make deals with tv content providers, and offer an all-in one packages.
 
Spread too far and the empire will collapse, :apple: 1990's style.

Software and bug issues are already a hazard for the things Apple release prematurely.

:apple:Music for iPhone and iTunes for example. So many issues. (Playlist issues anyone?)
Fix what you're good at first, make sure it's tight as hell.
That's what Steve would do, and what needs to be done.
 
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(How high is Netflix valued? Could Apple just buy Netflix, then make the interface all white with illegible text and replace your legally bought DVDs with copies of the "Steve Jobs" movie? That could work.)

Edit: I forgot to mention that I don't think Apple will list the losses Apple Music makes them in yearly earnings, which is a shame because I'd love to know.

Netflix's market cap is $49 billion. That is total shares times current share price. If Apple wanted to buy NetFlix it would take a price considerably higher than $49B as the stock price would shoot up with rumors of the buyout and the NetFlix board would not support the buyout unless it was at a premium. So let's say it would take $70 billion to buy NetFlix. Yes, Apple could do this. Not only do they have the cash, but they could issue their own stock and just offer the NetFlix shareholders Apple stock.

Now for $70 Billion Apple would get a company that makes about $100 million a year in profit. So without growth, the return on the $70 Billion would be much much less than buying U.S. government treasuries and receiving 2% interest. As an Apple shareholder I'd be very upset at what I would consider a total waste of money. If Apple wants content, they could produce dozens of TV shows for just a few billion dollars (and I'm talking about high production value shows and the complete first season). Why go to NetFlix for a few hit shows, a few licenses with content providers (which are expiring and may or may not be renewed and if renewed will simply get more expensive)? I think the market would react very negatively as well and Apple's stock would probably decrease by a ton.
 
They are killing it with Beats 1. Curating talent in film and television isn't so far fetched. All Netflix does is basically hand over a big bag of money to the content creators and their ideas, and then being mostly hands off during the process. It's a model that can work really well. The content creators themselves LOVE it.

The problem with that model is that the content providers make the money, not Netflix. Netflix has to renegotiate every few years and the content providers set the new price so that Netflix doesn't make too much money. That is why Netflix produced its own shows, it was hostage to the content providers. And since the content providers have their own outlets in cable and on Hulu, the Netflix is negotiating against competitors which have an inside track. Apple has the right idea making a great set top box, making the streaming of movies and shows really convenient, and then making a profit on the set top box and taking a cut from the content providers. If the content providers want to do an "all you can eat" service, Apple can shift to that model quickly. It won't be much harder than the shift from iTunes music sales to Apple Music. Apple puts a new App on Apple TV that works like Amazon Prime. The only question is the price.
 
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What's interesting to me is people bash Apple for outages because the are held to a much higher standard. Google who's services people have to completely depend on because they are all cloud based instead of being local and just having a Cloud component, has more outages. The difference is how the media portrays it. They congratulate Google for fixing a problem after an extended period, while saying apple finally fix a problem in their faulty system.
I don't follow what your are saying in relationship to my post?
Apple online services are traditionally unreliable.
MobileMe was very unreliable.
iDrive was gone, and Cloud Drive is not easily accessed in iOS devices.
iTunes Match created several nightmares loosing music content and I'm still searching for some of my songs, albums and artists music.
Apple Music is very cumbersome to play your own music, it may work well for people signing up for the paid service and using the radio, but for those like me that have a large Music library it's a significant step backwards.
I am not making any reference to google services here; but now that you mention it maybe apple need to hire some of their people.
Cue may be part of the problem, as he hasn't been able to make them work well over all these years, stopping the service, renaming it, moving them from free to paid or an official release to beta doesn't make them insanely great.
Siri isn't there either, it's very frustrating.
Think differently: all Apple cloud services should be matching your device size: 128GB iPhone should give you 128GB cloud services.
 
Feels a bit like Sony buying CBS and Columbia in the late 80's and trying to become a "converged" media and devices company.

That was the start of a long painful slide.

Edit: I see Eidorian wasn't born this century either! :)
Edit: or Vulchr
Edit: or iapplelove

(Wow, I wonder if these folks were all, like me, huge Sony fans in the 70's to early 80's, only to be sadly disappointed as Sony completely lost the plot?)
I has been done before. I know Apple has reach but then again who didn't have or at least want a Walkman or Trinitron?
 
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The problem with that model is that the content providers make the money, not Netflix. Netflix has to renegotiate every few years and the content providers set the new price so that Netflix doesn't make too much money. That is why Netflix produced its own shows, it was hostage to the content providers. And since the content providers have their own outlets in cable and on Hulu, the Netflix is negotiating against competitors which have an inside track. Apple has the right idea making a great set top box, making the streaming of movies and shows really convenient, and then making a profit on the set top box and taking a cut from the content providers. If the content providers want to do an "all you can eat" service, Apple can shift to that model quickly. It won't be much harder than the shift from iTunes music sales to Apple Music. Apple puts a new App on Apple TV that works like Amazon Prime. The only question is the price.
Yes and none of that means Apple needs to get into the content creation business. They're not doing it with Apple News, they don't need to do with with Apple TV.
 
Community.
Abed has already worked with Apple for their WWDC opener.
#sixseasonsandamovie #dreamatorium
 

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What Apple should do with music and movies is what they did with apps:
Invite and facilitate for independent producers to sell their music and movies.

The timing would be perfect: the big production companies do not want to realize the terms of the new times of entertainment on demand, and the technology to produce quality music and movies is at everyones hands, or at least in the hands of smaller independent production studios.

Give us the true free market! Not in terms of money, but in terms of freedom for everyone not only o consume but also provide! And no, youtube is not quality enough for that!!
Then create the Apple Awards and instead of having the Academy selecting the winners all rappers and hip-hop beats1 fanboys will define what are the best movies, they will release an App that if you subscribe to it you can multiply your votes every month, all magically running in the background draining your iPhone battery. But don't worry because iPhone 7 will have a module specifically designed to manage that service...its amaaaiiizinng
 
Netflix's market cap is $49 billion. That is total shares times current share price. If Apple wanted to buy NetFlix it would take a price considerably higher than $49B as the stock price would shoot up with rumors of the buyout and the NetFlix board would not support the buyout unless it was at a premium. So let's say it would take $70 billion to buy NetFlix. Yes, Apple could do this. Not only do they have the cash, but they could issue their own stock and just offer the NetFlix shareholders Apple stock.

Now for $70 Billion Apple would get a company that makes about $100 million a year in profit. So without growth, the return on the $70 Billion would be much much less than buying U.S. government treasuries and receiving 2% interest. As an Apple shareholder I'd be very upset at what I would consider a total waste of money. If Apple wants content, they could produce dozens of TV shows for just a few billion dollars (and I'm talking about high production value shows and the complete first season). Why go to NetFlix for a few hit shows, a few licenses with content providers (which are expiring and may or may not be renewed and if renewed will simply get more expensive)? I think the market would react very negatively as well and Apple's stock would probably decrease by a ton.
Netflix distribution centers and logistics can integrate pretty well with the Apple stores supply chain and make significant savings and improvements for both services. The only problem will be that Apple will kill all the discs business no DVD or BluRay for YOU, leaving all this business open to RedBox, me don't like it!
 
Dear Apple,

Please keep making the great hardware you have been. Please improve your software that is buggy as hell lately.

Please stop trying to do more and more half assed stuff like apple music, and TV content.

K thx bye.

I second that. I miss Steve.
 
I wouldn't mind some self-referanital material. Imagine a generic sitcom in which every character wears grey t-shirts, lives in a nondescript white room, and talks like Mr. Ive. "There's something I've wanted to say to you for a multitude of years… it's about refining our friendship, rethinking what we mean to each other in a way only we can do, Abigail."

Your attempts at humor are... actually usually pretty good.
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Now Apple is going to brag they invented "movie making". What I see is a company running out of ideas and innovation in computing and they are trying other fields to keep investors distracted.
 
Dear Apple,

Please keep making the great hardware you have been. Please improve your software that is buggy as hell lately.

Please stop trying to do more and more half assed stuff like apple music, and TV content.

K thx bye.


Apple has already successfully diversified into media, which is highly synergistic with their core business of media devices. In 2015, Apple is a huge seller of media content. In 2020, sellers without proprietary content will be dinosaurs. The writing is on the wall.

I don't see how more investment in media in any way impacts hardware or software. Apple is a money machine, and their excess profits are just going to waste.
 
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