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Most of the iPhone 6,6s,7 buyer isn't looking forward to replacing its device with a notch screen.

Wow, legit source! Can I see it? Oh, right, there is none, it’s just what you want to be true and not the actual truth...
Notch is old news. Nobody actually using the “notched” iPhone is even noticing it exists. It’s just YT reviewers, to whom everything Apple makes is “im not buying *insert anything Apple* and you shouldn’t either”
 
Wrong !

The 15% iPhone Tariff hits on Dec 15th, & Apple needs to get as many 2019 iPhones as possible into the Sales Channel BEFORE then !!!

The units need to clear customs & NOT be in a Warehouse !

Two are the two main criteria, else they will get hit with the 15% tariff (starting on Dec 15th).

NOT a single so-called Pro Stock Analyst who covers AAPL for a living has yet picked up on this, NOR even a single Regular on CNBC !

A Fool & his Money are soon parted !

The tariffs were announced almost 2 months aho. If Apple wanted to increase their production numbers because of that they would have done it before launch.
 
iPhone 11 and 11 Pro is a good release. Worthy upgrade. The market/public agrees. Bodes well for Apple this holiday season, they'll sell a ton of iPhones. And I bet a lot of people do indeed care about the excellent software and support, regular iOS releases, and Apple privacy commitment.
 
Underwhelming for who and who? Perhaps for those who own last year’s device (even that you cannot be sure), but there are many more upgrading from quite older handsets. Again, who are the “most of the buyers” who plan or returning theirs? You must be some kind of wizard.

A few analysts are saying that demand is underwhelming for the latest iPhones and have set very low target prices for Apple's stock. They claim almost no one is going to buy iPhones for the holidays when there are much cheaper Android smartphones available that are just as good as iPhones. Most of those analysts say that everything Apple does is tied to iPhone sales and that includes Services. They also say the only thing that matters is Apple selling huge numbers of iPhones despite Apple no longer reporting iPhone sales. As far as Wall Street is concerned, Apple is still "The iPhone Company" and nothing is going to change their opinion on that. Apple will never be allowed to become a Services type company and will always remain a hardware company in the eyes of big investors and analysts.

Apple's P/E will likely never go beyond 18 even with growing Services. I think Apple would have to increase iPhone sales by 10% each quarter in order for that to happen. Or at least increase the global market share percentage by 10% next year and we all know that isn't going to happen. Most Android smartphone manufacturers would rather lose money than cede market share to Apple. They'll just keep slashing prices to sell to the poorest consumers on the planet. Wall Street knows this so as far as they're concerned, Apple will never gain market share percentage and will stay as a doomed company.

Big investors will never put their faith in a company with a tiny market share. Their greed won't allow it. They will always go to the dominant market share company.
 
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More evidence Apple execs don't have a clue what their customers want.

One month they're paying massive fines for returning overstocked screens the next they've botched the launch of their new lineup.
 
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Did you ask each person what they were there for or did you pull this out of your ass?

If there were plenty of iPhone 11 returns, I'm sure the internet would have picked up on that by now and I have seen nothing about high iPhone return rates anywhere online. Most reviewers have given positive reviews and have said nothing about any flaws that would require users to return their iPhones. So far, no iPhone-gate articles have been spread around online.
 
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If there were plenty of iPhone 11 returns, I'm sure the internet would have picked up on that by now and I have seen nothing about high iPhone return rates anywhere online. Most reviewers have given positive reviews and have said nothing about any flaws that would require users to return their iPhones. So far, no iPhone-gate articles have been spread around online.

Idontlikethegreenafterallgate
 
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Hopefully the iPhone SE2 will come. Poor buyers (e.g. in Asia) can finally afford a good mobile phone. And if you have more money, you will be happy to buy it as a robust travel mobile phone, provided it is equipped with the same camera as the 11.
 
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Most of the iPhone 6,6s,7 buyer isn't looking forward to replacing its device with a notch screen.

that’s me exactly; I have a perfectly good 6S which is just fine, fast enough, battery great (now) and I keep looking at the new range and don’t want the notch (prefer under screen reader etc) and will not pay a £1000 for essentially the same experience (cameras on phones is of no interest to me regardless of brand)

an all screen 6s would suit me just fine with an under screen reader etc. (Galaxy S8 with IOS?)
 
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Wrong !

The 15% iPhone Tariff hits on Dec 15th, & Apple needs to get as many 2019 iPhones as possible into the Sales Channel BEFORE then !!!

The units need to clear customs & NOT be in a Warehouse !

Two are the two main criteria, else they will get hit with the 15% tariff (starting on Dec 15th).

NOT a single so-called Pro Stock Analyst who covers AAPL for a living has yet picked up on this, NOR even a single Regular on CNBC !

A Fool & his Money are soon parted !

Of course they can be in a warehouse as long as said warehouse is in the US. What are you talking about?
 
Apple: Releases phone with the best battery life, best camera, best display, fastest processor, longest OS support and highest durability of any flagship smartphone.

MR Forums "Meh, underwhelming"

its “Meh underwhelming“ because most of what you claim is simply not true, aside from fastest processor which is never exploited by Apple in any event!
 
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They’ve completely fallen down on this launch.
From not enough production resulting in too long delivery times, the iOS constant updates, and the lack of proper updates on trade ins (hint: Phobio is lousy, Brightstar much better).
At this point I’m just losing interest and might just cancel.
Next week will start contacting about order updates as many times as it takes.
Last year Mr Cook got my 4 week delivery date pushed up to launch day. Maybe another email can help move the phones along.
 
I’ve replaced my iPhone 7 Plus with a notch screen iPhone XS Max and plan on replacing that with a notch screen iPhone 11. IMO the majority of the people obsessed with the notch aren’t using an iPhone.

logical wouldn’t you say? I don’t like the notch so I won’t spend £1000 in getting phone with a notch?

its the same thing with rice pudding, can’t stand the stuff, stands to reason I never choose it at the restauran?
 
logical wouldn’t you say? I don’t like the notch so I won’t spend £1000 in getting phone with a notch?

its the same thing with rice pudding, can’t stand the stuff, stands to reason I never choose it at the restauran?
So you never had a phone with a notch but you don't like it?
 
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More evidence Apple execs don't have a clue what their customers want.

One month they're paying massive fines for returning overstocked screens the next they've botched the launch of their new lineup.
What was botched? With the exception of the green and purple iPhone 11, every other color/storage is available with a deliver date of October 7. Green and purple are back-ordered until October 21. Seems reasonable to me.
 
I remember people here saying that the iPhone 11 was going to be low sales, hmmm not. I love my new iPhone 11 with my 802.11ax router the phone kicks butt with WIFI connections. There was a lot of invitation on the phone that is why it is selling. And the LTE cell data is a lot faster with this phone. Good job Apple worth every penny for this new phone.
 
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And in January someone will be reporting rumors of production cuts due to weak demand or something. It’s the typical boom and bust iPhone cycle.
 
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A few analysts are saying that demand is underwhelming for the latest iPhones and have set very low target prices for Apple's stock. They claim almost no one is going to buy iPhones for the holidays when there are much cheaper Android smartphones available that are just as good as iPhones. Most of those analysts say that everything Apple does is tied to iPhone sales and that includes Services. They also say the only thing that matters is Apple selling huge numbers of iPhones despite Apple no longer reporting iPhone sales. As far as Wall Street is concerned, Apple is still "The iPhone Company" and nothing is going to change their opinion on that. Apple will never be allowed to become a Services type company and will always remain a hardware company in the eyes of big investors and analysts.

Apple's P/E will likely never go beyond 18 even with growing Services. I think Apple would have to increase iPhone sales by 10% each quarter in order for that to happen. Or at least increase the global market share percentage by 10% next year and we all know that isn't going to happen. Most Android smartphone manufacturers would rather lose money than cede market share to Apple. They'll just keep slashing prices to sell to the poorest consumers on the planet. Wall Street knows this so as far as they're concerned, Apple will never gain market share percentage and will stay as a doomed company.

Big investors will never put their faith in a company with a tiny market share. Their greed won't allow it. They will always go to the dominant market share company.
More evidence Apple execs don't have a clue what their customers want.

One month they're paying massive fines for returning overstocked screens the next they've botched the launch of their new lineup.
And yet the company is worth about $1T. Go figure. It’s always good to see naysayers eat crow when they get it wrong consistently.
 
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Wrong !

The 15% iPhone Tariff hits on Dec 15th, & Apple needs to get as many 2019 iPhones as possible into the Sales Channel BEFORE then !!!

The units need to clear customs & NOT be in a Warehouse !

Two are the two main criteria, else they will get hit with the 15% tariff (starting on Dec 15th).

NOT a single so-called Pro Stock Analyst who covers AAPL for a living has yet picked up on this, NOR even a single Regular on CNBC !

A Fool & his Money are soon parted !

Apple had known about the tariffs for a while now, why would they just now consider doing something about it? Besides, iphone 11 pro max orders are actually going down
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And yet the company is worth about $1T. Go figure. It’s always good to see naysayers eat crow when they it wrong consistently.
A 10% adjustment is hardly a botched launch
 
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Wrong !

The 15% iPhone Tariff hits on Dec 15th, & Apple needs to get as many 2019 iPhones as possible into the Sales Channel BEFORE then !!!

The units need to clear customs & NOT be in a Warehouse !

Two are the two main criteria, else they will get hit with the 15% tariff (starting on Dec 15th).

NOT a single so-called Pro Stock Analyst who covers AAPL for a living has yet picked up on this, NOR even a single Regular on CNBC !

A Fool & his Money are soon parted !

Did you just hear about the tariffs? Btw, the US isn’t the only market.
 
My friend who recently bought a Samsung Note 10+ is sick of it. Hates it. lol. He just traded it for a new iPhone 11 Pro. Live and learn. The Note looks cool but there's really nothing like the Apple ecosystem.
 
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