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Foxconn's capacity is about 500k units per day. Filling the backorders is what's slowing things down. Demand tends to slow down after the first 30 days.

There is a slight backlog online but you can walk into any Apple store each day and pick one up if you wanted. They restock every morning, that’s the case in the UK. I could go to London and pick up any colour, any size.
 
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Regulars on CNBC are wrong all the time, so that would confirm nothing.

AAPL has objectively performed well since Tim Cook took over, outperforming the broader market. If any “fool” bought AAPL and held it, they have done very well.

The fools sold AAPL.

AAPL is quickly approaching it's all time high. I got in last year right as the market turned sour. I remember buying at #220 and people said doom. Then I bought at $200 and it was the falling knife. Then I bought every $10 increment with increasing amount of shares each time right down to $150. At that point AAPL was never coming back is what people said, it was peak iPhone.

Now I have a nice little pile of money and that's somebody who got in right before a crash at a high valuation. All aboard on the Train to $250 per share. What AAPL managed to do will be studied in business classes for a long time. I have to say I had my doubts at times.
 
AAPL is quickly approaching it's all time high. I got in last year right as the market turned sour. I remember buying at #220 and people said doom. Then I bought at $200 and it was the falling knife. Then I bought every $10 increment with increasing amount of shares each time right down to $150. At that point AAPL was never coming back is what people said, it was peak iPhone.

Now I have a nice little pile of money and that's somebody who got in right before a crash at a high valuation. All aboard on the Train to $250 per share. What AAPL managed to do will be studied in business classes for a long time. I have to say I had my doubts at times.


I don't know if it will be studied in business classes, but maybe. I mean what is the lesson? - that the markets can crash a stock 40% for nearly no reason at all except for chicken-little propaganda? That is the real lesson, maybe the only lesson I can see.

We can say that AAPL stock crashed last year because the Fed stupidly jacked up interest rates. But maybe this was part of the game that the Fed was instructed to play out. Can you imagine the secret messages coming from these guys to their special group of friends who use this information to take advantage of the great Yo-Yo?

There was zero fundamental reasons for AAPL stock to crash down from $230 to $140 last year. But you cannot argue against the market either! Even if they are the dumbest. Quite often the dumbest are at the helm. If you try to fight the dumbest dimwits of the stock market, you could end up broke in a hurry, so we must respect the markets and realize that this is the way of the world. Do not fight it - roll with it. It's OK if they are misguided, that's the way of the world. It's better to be rich than correct.

Look at VANGUARD - they are the biggest holder of AAPL stock - they had to be in on this. That would most likely be where the business lesson is.
 
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I don't know if it will be studied in business classes, but maybe. I mean what is the lesson? - that the markets can crash a stock 40% for nearly no reason at all except for chicken-little propaganda? That is the real lesson, maybe the only lesson I can see.

We can say that AAPL stock crashed last year because the Fed stupidly jacked up interest rates. But maybe this was part of the game that the Fed was instructed to play out. Can you imagine the secret messages coming from these guys to their special group of friends who use this information to take advantage of the great Yo-Yo?

There was zero fundamental reasons for AAPL stock to crash down from $230 to $140 last year. But you cannot argue against the market either! Even if they are the dumbest. Quite often the dumbest are at the helm. If you try to fight the dumbest dimwits of the stock market, you could end up broke in a hurry, so we must respect the markets and realize that this is the way of the world. Do not fight it - roll with it. It's OK if they are misguided, that's the way of the world. It's better to be rich than correct.

The lesson is how swiftly and easily they were able to transition away from being what was considered a one trick pony. If you can't find the lesson in AAPL as a company not sure what else to tell you.
 
logical wouldn’t you say? I don’t like the notch so I won’t spend £1000 in getting phone with a notch?

its the same thing with rice pudding, can’t stand the stuff, stands to reason I never choose it at the restauran?
Did you act like a 5 year old with rice pudding and refuse to eat it because of how it looks? Or did you try it and decided you didn't like it?
 
I ordered my 11 Max on October 1 and says it’ll be here between the 10th through the 17th by overnight shipping!
 
The lesson is how swiftly and easily they were able to transition away from being what was considered a one trick pony. If you can't find the lesson in AAPL as a company not sure what else to tell you.

Hey, the nice pie graphs we get from MacRumours have shown the double digit services growth for a long time now.

I am with you on this. I have some AAPL stock, and that's primarily why I am here and why I have a keen interest.

Tim Cook told us 3 years ago that services would be doubling by 2020, and he is probably going to announce that they are ahead of his promise at the quarterly call on Oct 30th.

Don't you agree that it was obvious that Apple would have stellar services growth?

I think you know that if Tim Cook tells us stuff like this, we can take it practically as gospel truth - he has never lied, and he is in fact legally bound to tell us the truth. You and I know this.

This did not happen within the last year, or at the sulcus of the great yo-yo in AAPL stock. You'd be making up false history if you think the business lesson is that Apple suddenly transitioned in winter 2019. I mean how are you painting this story? Swiftly transitioned? Come on dude - they (Apple executives on their quarterly calls) even told us 3 years ago that services was growing at double digits. 3 years. Not 2 months in the middle of a yo-yo fake crash.

AAPL stock crash from 230 to 140 happened DESPITE obvious knowledge that they had double digit services growth
 
Hey, the nice pie graphs we get from MacRumours have shown the double digit services growth for a long time now.

I am with you on this. I have some AAPL stock, and that's primarily why I am here and why I have a keen interest.

Tim Cook told us 3 years ago that services would be doubling by 2020, and he is probably going to announce that they are ahead of his promise at the quarterly call on Oct 30th.

Don't you agree that it was obvious that Apple would have stellar services growth?

I think you know that if Tim Cook tells us stuff like this, we can take it practically as gospel truth - he has never lied, and he is in fact legally bound to tell us the truth. You and I know this.

This did not happen within the last year, or at the sulcus of the great yo-yo in AAPL stock. You'd be making up false history if you think the business lesson is that Apple suddenly transitioned in winter 2019. I mean how are you painting this story? Swiftly transitioned? Come on dude - they (Apple executives on their quarterly calls) even told us 3 years ago that services was growing at double digits. 3 years. Not 2 months in the middle of a yo-yo fake crash.

Okay change the word swiftly with smoothly. For me it seemed fast as I was late to the game on AAPL. However for a time I thought it was going to be too little too late. Anyway I do think Apple is one of those companies that will be mentioned quite a bit and studied.

Look what they have done with pretty much everything they touched. Every product they sold with a few exceptions has become a must have commodity and then when they could absolutely not sell anymore they started selling the crack instead of the pipe. This is pure genius.
 
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was actually interested in the 11 pro max but the price in singapore is 2k for a 256gb model and 1.7k for a 64gb.

sorry but unless this phone can make me breakfast and wipe my ass, it is not worth 2k. not just the iphone, no phone is worth 2k.

for comparison, 2k can get me an asus zenbook with change for a 2019 ipad.

or a surface pro 6/7 with change for a 2019 ipad.

or a new pc with a 2070ti on AMD zen 2 with 16gb ram, 1tb ssd and a 144hz gaming monitor.

or 4 boxes of cuban cigars.

or 17 bottles of whisky.

or 13 bottles of quality cognac.

or stock up my entire bar.

or get drunk and die of liver failure in 1 night.

these would all be more viable choices than spending it all on a phone.

Or a U.S. made Fender Stratocaster guitar with a Roland Jazz Chorus 120 amplifier.
I mean, seriously, expensive phones.
 
Okay change the word swiftly with smoothly. For me it seemed fast as I was late to the game on AAPL. However for a time I thought it was going to be too little too late. Anyway I do think Apple is one of those companies that will be mentioned quite a bit and studied.

Look what they have done with pretty much everything they touched. Every product they sold with a few exceptions has become a must have commodity and then when they could absolutely not sell anymore they started selling the crack instead of the pipe. This is pure genius.

There you go - smoothly and fairly swiftly - but this was not a surprise. Tim literally broadcasted this.

Tell me the business lesson as to why AAPL stock crashed so hard in November 2019? I'd like to hear it.

(and I am saying all this stuff not to irritate or win any arguments, it's for the common good)

I have some lessons there, but I think you have missed the lessons, and I really doubt that any business college is going to have a clue about it. Carl Icahn knows, and Vanguard knows. Maybe Buffet knows - maybe, not for sure. Buffet does not need to know, and he knows he does not need to know :)

I think your opinion has been too focussed on the fake analysts. In my not so humble opinion, all you need to do with AAPL stock is listen to the quarterly report phone calls carefully. I have done so for decades now. They do not lie. They do not exaggerate. They sometimes "dodge" something, or put it another way, but they do not lie. Don't doubt what Tim Cook says on those calls.
 
There is a slight backlog online but you can walk into any Apple store each day and pick one up if you wanted. They restock every morning, that’s the case in the UK. I could go to London and pick up any colour, any size.

Slightly different in th NYC metro area. Stores have stock each day, but definitely not 'every color/size in every storage capacity." You can find what you want at one store or another, but you have to check inventory to make sure they have the precise combo you want at a given store.

OTOH, web orders keep getting pushed out. Every day I wake up to check the same 2 configs I'm looking for and every day the ship dates get pushed by a day.
 
AAPL is quickly approaching it's all time high. I got in last year right as the market turned sour. I remember buying at #220 and people said doom. Then I bought at $200 and it was the falling knife. Then I bought every $10 increment with increasing amount of shares each time right down to $150. At that point AAPL was never coming back is what people said, it was peak iPhone.

Now I have a nice little pile of money and that's somebody who got in right before a crash at a high valuation. All aboard on the Train to $250 per share. What AAPL managed to do will be studied in business classes for a long time. I have to say I had my doubts at times.
The story never changed, despite what the pundits say. There is always some story about AAPL because it gets clicks and TV ratings. Apple is one of, if not the most widely held stocks because it is among the most valuable companies on earth.

Investing takes experience, but selling stocks just because they drop is a terrible strategy. You always have to ask yourself if the story has changed. Apple maybe reached peak unit iPhone sales, but anyone that knew the data understands this has to happen.

Much more important now is the installed base, services, and the new exploding segment of wearables. The best part of Apple is they aren't a one trick pony. iPhone will not always be the most important product at Apple and we are starting to see that.

If Apple couldn't move away from the iPhone at some point, THAT would be a major problem. Companies have to adapt and we're seeing Apple do that (while still selling a ton of iPhones and monetizing the base).

Lastly, for a company buying back another $100B in shares, long term shareholders don't necessarily want AAPL trading at all time highs.

When AAPL drops, buying one of the best companies on earth with a cash machine and fortress balance sheet is always a good decision.

As usual, when the facts change, I'll change...but I see very little evidence the sky is close to falling.
 
I can’t figure out why so many on this thread are upset that iPhone Pro is so successful (And rightfully so). Is it because they don’t want to see Apple succeed or is this just the typical MacRumors rhetoric?
I'm surprised I haven't see a "Boycott Apple" thread here yet!

I personally upgraded to the iPhone 11 Pro from an iPhone 7 and I'm pretty happy with my purchase! Sure, the 2020 version may be a leap forward, and if that's the case, I'll upgrade next year as well!
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Not sure why people are saying iOS 13 is buggy in the new phones. I have the Pro Max and haven’t had a single issue. I think that reports of bugs are always overdramatic
 
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was actually interested in the 11 pro max but the price in singapore is 2k for a 256gb model and 1.7k for a 64gb.

sorry but unless this phone can make me breakfast and wipe my ass, it is not worth 2k. not just the iphone, no phone is worth 2k.

for comparison, 2k can get me an asus zenbook with change for a 2019 ipad.

or a surface pro 6/7 with change for a 2019 ipad.

or a new pc with a 2070ti on AMD zen 2 with 16gb ram, 1tb ssd and a 144hz gaming monitor.

or 4 boxes of cuban cigars.

or 17 bottles of whisky.

or 13 bottles of quality cognac.

or stock up my entire bar.

or get drunk and die of liver failure in 1 night.

these would all be more viable choices than spending it all on a phone.

Everything is expensive in Singapore, except street food and rent. $50 for a plate of spaghetti at the mall restaurant!! Same meal in similar location is maybe $15 in the US.
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Definitely seeing a lot of demand for these phones. Our mall Apple store still has lines.
 
Interesting article on Forbes. Makes sense and definitely worth waiting for. The body looks like the iPhone 5/5S/SE and iPad Pro style and the notchless design is sure to be a home run for a lot of people if this pans out.


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My friend who recently bought a Samsung Note 10+ is sick of it. Hates it. lol. He just traded it for a new iPhone 11 Pro. Live and learn. The Note looks cool but there's really nothing like the Apple ecosystem.
I did like the note 10+ a lot but it was the ecosystem that I missed. I have the 11 pro max now.
 
Wrong !

The 15% iPhone Tariff hits on Dec 15th, & Apple needs to get as many 2019 iPhones as possible into the Sales Channel BEFORE then !!!

The units need to clear customs & NOT be in a Warehouse !

Two are the two main criteria, else they will get hit with the 15% tariff (starting on Dec 15th).

NOT a single so-called Pro Stock Analyst who covers AAPL for a living has yet picked up on this, NOR even a single Regular on CNBC !

A Fool & his Money are soon parted !
I will never forgive for this one. Thankfully mine will be here well before December 15
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Does anybody know how many of us are waiting because wireless providers are out of stock of every color.
 
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