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First we hear they won't be including features needed to compete in the age of COVID (i.e. Touch ID), and the "upgrades" they are adding to this model are at best negligible. Even the chip is just a slightly updated version of last year's. This is an "S" update if ever there were one, and Apple is not only labeling it a version upgrade, but now wants to price it like one as well.

Apple must love me. They are working overtime to ensure I keep more of my disposable income this fall, since I currently see no good reason to spend it on their next phone offerings. 🤣
 
I mean, the prices have always looked nice in US dollar but it is just insane to see that price tag in something like Euro. Yes, tax is not included in the price blablabla but it still does not come close. I remember those days when Apple only replaced the $ sign with the € sign but now it is like 200 in Euro on top! they also seem to be penny pinching with ridiculous prices like "X Euro and 41 Cent". Even Apple must know their prices are insane, since they are usually promoting the "from" price, based on a monthly financed price now instead of showing the full price straight away. Who would have ever thought you will have to finance a phone?! I know the US loves financing stuff and paying later but that usually does not fly well here.

Thankfully I am not in the market of a new iPhone. I have not even taken advantage of the 12 Pro Max camera yet thanks to going from lockdown to lockdown. Finally will be able to use it for the first time on vacation in a year next week. Also, iOS has advanced so little. What do you need to upgrade for? Only to go back using the same apps on the same Home Screen that you probably haven't been bothered to change in years :D

edit: just realised this post is a lot about "me" lol oh well, it is a forum

I’ve been working outside of my home since the start of the pandemic and I haven’t used all of the features of the camera. I even went on vacation to Puerto Rico last month and still didn’t use the features. I’m holding onto my 12 Pro Max for another year.
 
Apple must love me. They are working overtime to ensure I keep more of my disposable income this fall, since I currently see no good reason to spend it on their next phone offerings. 🤣

Unfortunately, I am planning on getting the M1X 16" MBP and an updated Mac mini... so even though I have decided not to upgrade my phone, Apple will still be getting plenty of my money!
 
Really makes me wonder if I should take a break on iPhone and give a modern Android a try.
Because if they just don't innovate and then hike the price then I feel obligated to vote with my wallet.
I loved my Galaxy S20+ - it was a fantastic phone. The only reason I dipped my toe back into the Apple pool was that the iPhone 12 was one of the most compelling models Apple had produced in years.
 
How does bringing back TouchID allow the notch to go?

Where would the ambient light sensor and the front camera go?
 
First we hear they won't be including features needed to compete in the age of COVID (i.e. Touch ID), and the "upgrades" they are adding to this model are at best negligible. Even the chip is just a slightly updated version of last year's. This is an "S" update if ever there were one, and Apple is not only labeling it a version upgrade, but now wants to price it like one as well.

Apple must love me. They are working overtime to ensure I keep more of my disposable income this fall, since I currently see no good reason to spend it on their next phone offerings. 🤣
It depends on who you ask. Anecdotally touch id as an option would be great but not needed. I doubt the iPhone 13 has a “negligible spec” update. That may be your opinion, but it would probably be wrong.

You certainly can call it an “S” upgrade, but the price will be the price.
 
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Which is truly sad. Anyone from any angle who calls the Fold 3 anything less the revolutionary tech is just a fanboy of whatever they are backing in defense.

It is absolutely 100% bleeding-edge hardware no matter how you cut it. Over and above anything anyone is doing out there.

Anyone who even pretends to be a true tech fan should applaud Samsung here for this and think it is cool tech.

If it wasn't $1800 then sure; and a bit more solid of an inner display (a few generations away). I can see the appeal of a bigger screen sometimes for sure.
Why is the fold 3 revolutionary? It’s just repacked tech from the fold 1? Every year Apple releases processors that blow away the competition. Isn’t that revolutionary? The M1? Wasn’t the ability to record from two cameras on the iPhone 12 revolutionary?

The keynote is around the corner, but I’m sure there will be a number of interesting and innovative, maybe even revolutionary as part of the iPhone 13. And it won’t be $1,800.
 
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There’s nothing about the upcoming 13 pro phones that would be middle of the road specs. Regular non pro model maybe but not the pro models
Lol there are low/mid range android devices with 120hz displays. What about the 13 pro makes it worth more than the 1k they already charge for the pro model devices?
 
Lol there are low/mid range android devices with 120hz displays. What about the 13 pro makes it worth more than the 1k they already charge for the pro model devices?

There are no mid range android phones with 120hz with ltpo. There’s different levels of high refresh rate displays. Refresh rate going down to 1hz is a massive gain for battery life

The 13 pro line is top of the range when it comes to camera, video, performance. Not to mention lasting multiple years unlike many mid range devices.

So saying it’s mid range specs is flat out wrong. All 1k devices have flagship specs.
 
This is happening with all consumer goods. This shouldn't surprise anyone. If you want to get a new phone every year, you got to pay to play.

Best Buy is selling Nvidia Founders Edition GPUs for original MSRP, In-n-Out sells burgers and Rite Aid sells ice cream cones for the same price and AMD CPUs are being sold below msrp so not all companies are fleecing consumers.
 
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Which is why I said "one of". Samsung bean counters have run the modelling and concluded that the volume increase due to the price drop has a greater effect than the decrease in profit per device. This does not necessarily hold for an iPhone.
Apple sells as many iPhones as all of the manufacturers of Android phones....COMBINED. Trust me, it holds, they just see an opportunity to profit. I suspect, though, they will be chasing some of their users to/back to Android.
 
Why is the fold 3 revolutionary? It’s just repacked tech from the fold 1? Every year Apple releases processors that blow away the competition. Isn’t that revolutionary? The M1? Wasn’t the ability to record from two cameras on the iPhone 12 revolutionary?

The keynote is around the corner, but I’m sure there will be a number of interesting and innovative, maybe even revolutionary as part of the iPhone 13. And it won’t be $1,800.

The Fold itself as a product is.

Processor isn't everything no matter how many times one keeps saying it. iOS runs just fine on an A10 right now too. Overpowered means nothing if the OS can't use it; ie. iPad Pro. Just a paper spec.

Start a poll how many people record on 2 cameras at the same time. I bet you can the percent of people on one hand who know/remember it even exists. Terrible example.

So what's your cut of Timmy's $750 million, besides $0, to shill? We hear the same tired line every year from the same few diehards; the old "YOU JUST WAIT!" :rolleyes:
 
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Probably a similar reason to why you went from an iphone 11 to a 12 as per your signature.
I don't see this as a good comparison. The iPhone 12 was much more advanced in the hardware than the 11. Nearly every feature was improved in some way from the 11 to the 12.
 
This is a good chance to give Apple a finger and buy iPhone 12 instead, which will be discounted once 13s come out. This will teach them. ✌️
"This is a good chance to tell Apple not to profit off of you buy buying a different model they have for sale - still at a profit."

Huh? o_O
 
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