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Apple Reportedly Launching Larger iPad in October 2014, Larger iPhone in May 2014

D.T. said:
Yeah, with the A7 handily pushing around 2048x1536 pixels on the new iPads, even a down clocked “A8” could handle another doubling for a larger iPhone ... i..e, 1280x2272 (2x current 5/s/c), which up to 5” would be an outstanding ~521PPI :D
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Can you explain in which way using a multiple of the 4" iPhone screen on a 5" version would help developers?

The 2x Retina switch was useful since the screen size didn't change. Developers only had to provide "2x" bitmaps and keep their layout as is (iOS multiplies legacy pixel coordinates by 2 automatically).

Now if developers use the same layout for the 5" version it would result in unnecessary huge text and buttons, essentially a blown up version of the 4" version.

Developers would have to redo their layout anyway so the 2x resolution wouldn't help them at all. Also, every touch target and button would have to be resized to compensate for the increased PPI, something that the auto-layout APIs doesn't take care off.

If anything, I can see Apple purposely NOT using a multiple of an existing iOS resolution to prevent developers from taking the easy route and simply let the OS blow up their 4" app on a 5" screen. Much like they did with the iPad (which doesn't use a multiple of the iPhone resolution).
 
If this rumor is true it's going to be Apple's MS Surface done right like the original iPad was vs the early Windows tablets.
 
iMcLovin said:
May!?! darn, I just got the 5s, oh well gotta start saving up again then I assume.
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chill. I'm sure this rumour is is being spread by the the big-screen competitors to stem the sell of 5s.
not being sarcastic. but i find it completely illogical for apple.

// edit. what i originally meant is that the timing looks weird. not now, maybe sept/oct.
 
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Cappy said:
In my opinion the MacBook Air as we know it will be phased out and replaced with an ARM based system. There's a reason apple stressed the desktop class comments about their latest CPU and rewrote the iWork suite which I think is to bring better compatibility with ARM. They might even do the same with the Mac mini. This could also be the nail in the coffin for AppleScript.

Just my 2 cents.
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Don't think so, Steve Jobs had been talking about desktop class apps since the original iPhone keynote in 2007. It is part of their marketing language. Don't read too much into it.
 
thasan said:
chill. I'm sure this rumour is is being spread by the the big-screen competitors to stem the sell of 5s.
not being sarcastic. but i find it completely illogical for apple.
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Absolutely true! Apple will never make a small iPad either. Steve Jobs put the lid on that one. There will never, ever, be an iPad Mini. Period!

:p
 
I hate these dumb articles that spread false info. Everyone knows the iphone will not come out in May. It's the same crap every year with ppl making these ridiculous claims. It will be out in Fall of 2014.
 
sseaton1971 said:
The 11" MBA couldn't easily be replaced by an iPad, because iPads don't run OS X and have a keyboard.
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The keyboard is kind of the fly in the ointment. Yeah, you can buy bluetooth keyboards, or cases to fit your iPad into, but there's a good bit to be said about having a machine that comes with one standard.

Though why do you buy OSX specifically? I'm gonna say the biggest part would be the UI, and the availability of the apps you want. Right now, iOS can't provide that. Multitasking is only so-so, and you only have selections of "lite" versions of everything.

...but that might not be the case in 3-4 years. An iPad coupled with a more capable iOS, and access to full featured versions of Photoshop and whatnot would be a compelling alternative. Picking one over the other would be more about preference rather than capabilities. Here, the iPad could replace the 11" Air if it proves to be a more popular product.

After looking at the difference in price between the 11" MBA and the 13" MBA, I do think that it could just be eliminated, though. There is only a $100 difference in price. If Apple gets the 13" MBA under $1,000, I am not sure there is a need for the smaller laptop... unless people really demand the smaller size. Of course, Apple could also get the 13" rMBP under $1,000, and eliminate the MBA line altogether. It will be interesting to see what happens in 2014.
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Yup. All this talk about a bigger iPad could end up being the first designs for a 12.9" Retina Air, which could easily replace both the 11" and 13" models. It'd solidify Apple's Macbook line up, and instead of having two different models at 11" & 13" for one, or 13" & 15" for the other, it'd be more about having a even simpler good-better-best line up.
 
I'm perfectly happy with my config of iPhone 5s and iPad Air. Each best-of-breed for what I want.
But as an AAPL holder, I'm fine with them expanding the choices a bit for people who don't work exactly as I do, provided they don't spread themselves too thin and confuse the base.
If only to shut up the 'Apple is doomed if they don't build a phablet' crowd.

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PMike said:
Absolutely true! Apple will never make a small iPad either. Steve Jobs put the lid on that one. There will never, ever, be an iPad Mini. Period!

:p
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And people will never tire of trotting out an ancient quote, from a different market, by a guy who was perfectly happy to switch directions at the drop of a hat.
 
PMike said:
Absolutely true! Apple will never make a small iPad either. Steve Jobs put the lid on that one. There will never, ever, be an iPad Mini. Period!

:p
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err....i didn't say NEVER. i will probably like one. but may sounds way too early! if you tell me sept/october, i will believe it (cautiously) :D
 
I think the 12.9" iPad Pro will replace the current MBA range next year. They'll probably keep the 13" MBA and drop the price to use it as their legacy entry level model replacing the older MB with optical drive.

I think it will also introduce a revolutionary new docking keyboard/case that allows you to either use it as a laptop replacement docked or as a tablet undocked. The PC manufacturers are all over this type of device at the moment.

I also think they will launch a smaller iPad Nano to replace the iPod touch, probably with the same 5.5" screen size as the proposed iPhone XL.

That would leave the MBP as the only laptop. I think they will probably upgrade the MBP next year with 14" and 16" models with an all new design and colour scheme to match the Mac Pro.

I can see the sense in releasing the iPad Pro and iPhone Pro at WWDC with A8 processor followed by the same update a few months later for the other iPhones in Sept and other iPads in Oct. Separates the "pro" devices from the "consumer" devices with the pro models getting the new processors first. They've done it this way before.

I also think they will change the naming system with the new iPhone by dropping the numbers so we are left with an 4" iPhone C, 4" iPhone S, 4.7" iPhone X and 5.5" iPhone XL.

4 iPad models and 4 iPhone models complete the range.
 
Galaxy S5 rumors: Flexible design? 2K display? 18mp camera? Front facing speakers?

Next iPhone rumors: Bigger display?
 
iSayuSay said:
Oh really.. what size issues exactly is that? My eyesight is quite fine and I need to cringe everytime I try to read something on my iPhone. Too damn small and it causes eyestrain for prolonged use.

Can't see any reason why would I need giant pocket or handbag for a larger phone. Even my friends' SGS3 or HTC One fits most pocket just fine. So maybe it's you who have "size" issue? :rolleyes:
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The S3 is on the upper limit of comfortable size. Once you start getting to the Galaxy Note size, though, you begin moving into the "too large to be practical/comfortable to be used as a primary phone" territory...

So, Apple has some wiggle room for size, still....but not much. I'm happy with the iPhone 5 size. Lose the bezel, completely, and I think we're good!

ellsworth said:
At this point, they might as well call it the Maxi iPad XL or something clever like that.
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Wasn't that the plan?
iPad Mini
iPad
iPad Maxi
 
sseaton1971 said:
The size being tossed around would not be an acceptable size for students to see from their desks/tables or across the room. A device like this would be way too expensive (and breakable) to put in the hands of kids. I can't imagine that this (potential) product is for education.

Also, I work in education, and I have not heard even one person say they wish they had a larger iPad. I can see a device like this used in other areas, but large scale deployment in education isn't likely to happen.
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Hey they can soon hook up a Apple tv / projector if the rumours from the patents ever happen, I work as a tutor and i think the lack of a file system on an iPad makes them very limited for the educational work I do. I actually attended a conference this year on iPads in education and you have schools rolling them out to all students from 4 year olds with number and spelling apps to GCSE and A level students for coursework and studying, employing management companies to control content and licenses.

A larger iPad would have a place in classrooms, not my environment but I can see those that would try to implement it. Tbh it reminds me of the projector based white boards of 10 years ago when I was a student when the professor would spend more time hitting the board with a stylus and writing illegible writing than actually teaching anything.

The two areas this will probably impact most if it happens will be boardrooms and in the medical profession. Art possibly but I think it's possibly a little to bulky and may be restrictive. For this reason as an aspiring amateur artist I am looking forward to next years regular iPad.
 
hrishidev said:
iPad Mini , iPad Air , iPad Pro = Fragmentation :rolleyes:

Cannibalisation(sic) of Macbook Air? :eek:
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I imagine that you think you are being snarky or clever... but in the off chance that you are not & you are merely embarrassing yourself by not knowing what "fragmentation" means... let me clear something up for you:
The terms fragmentation/non-fragmentation in technology do NOT mean "we only make one side widget".... it means "we are not currently selling devices from the same segment in which one runs operating system version number.x, one runs number.y, and and another number.z... all of which have different features & ui, different minimum specs, & are compatible with a completely different set of apps".
Unless you believe that a new size iPad would NOT run the current version of iOS, would NOT be updated to any future versions of iOS, or would NOT be compatible with recent iOS apps...... what on earth would make you think that a new screen size would = fragmentation?
 
Yes I've tried it.

NutsNGum said:
Never tried one, eh? That's cool.

Keep on drinking that kool-aid. I hear it's delicious.
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Yes I've tried them and hate them. My thumbs are not that big and I need to use it one-handed. If I want a big screen I'll use an iPad mini (which actually fits in my pocket too)
 
sseaton1971 said:
The white unibody MacBook was replaced with the MacBook Air, and they still offered the white unibody MacBook to the education market well after it was officially pulled from the general public. There is no way Apple will replace their entry level laptop unless they are making some sort of hybrid device that comes in at the same price. That seems extremely unlikely, though.

An iOS device is not a replacement for an OS X computer for many users. Apple has also said repeatedly that iOS and OS X will borrow from each other, but they won't merge. Apple even stated that the new naming convention for OS X will take them another 10 years into the future.
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While what you have stated is quite true, Apple has said one thing and done the opposite in the past. Time will tell. The bulk of Apple's profits are from iOS devices and IMO it will be more so in the future with whatever iDevice they release next.

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Rogifan said:
And the first plastic iPhones happened on Steve Jobs watch.
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Quite true, but after 3 aluminum iPhones, the plastic phone was a bit of a surprise, especially considering the minimal price difference.
 
Didn't Tim Cook make the point several times in the introduction of the A7 64-bit processor that it was putting "desktop" power into the iDevices? I wouldn't be surprised to see an iPad Max become some sort of hybrid of iOS/OSX machine with a detachable keyboard.

My dream would be that sometime in the future our phones have full desktop power and can be used at a desktop dock with a mouse and keyboard to run "real" programs and then be used as a portable device when on the go.
 
Plutonius said:
It's easy to guess. I wonder why all these publications never bother to acknowledge they are wrong when their guesses are wrong.

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Why wait if the larger screen is so important to you ?
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I love it when people get offended at the mere suggestion that an Apple user may adopt another brand. Like he just cheated on your sister or something.
 
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