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Actually, the reason they have started announcing hardware cause they pulled out of Macworld . And the reason they did not announce anything this year is cause they had nothing big, not cause the software was so awesome. Just look at WWDC post Macworld to see the hardware they have announced, it's quite major, iPhone 4 being the most impressive.

Unless you work for Apple Corporate and in an upper office, you have zero information about what they have or why they do or don't anything.

Or is this your practice at being an analyst
 
I don't think so

So... why not 5 months ago? I don't think they've launched any new Haswell chips better fitting since then. A retina iMac should warrant an event, why no invites yet? Better send the invites quick. This is just odd...

I don't think Apple is going to hold a special event for Retina iMacs. Sorry. Now they may wait to release them in the fall.
 
If Apple doesn't make either a TB fusion drive or a 256 SSD standard I refuse to buy one. No way I'm paying to upgrade to something that should be there.
 
I'm not sure why this information is not getting around more, but Broadwell as a micro-architecture may be coming in Q4 2014, but that's only for the tablet/convertible-class chips.

Laptop chips are next coming in Q1 2015 and desktop chips will come only in Q2 2015 - this is the current plan at least.

A Broadwell iMac is more or less a year away, this is why we're getting this sort of meagre update.

I see. Thanks for the clarification. Well, at least the current iMacs are far from slow.
 
Why would someone want to waste GPU power on pushing more pixels on an imac? The resolution is fantastic, as is.

If you think you need a retina imac, then you are easily fooled by marketing gimmicks.

Yep, that's it. Those jagged edges on my screen are just make believe. Thanks for telling me what my opinion should be, surely it's not possible someone has better eyesight than you.

And besides, super clear painted on picture is only half of it. The ability to switch resolutions on the fly and still have things be super sharp is just as important. Sometimes I crave more screen real estate, even on my 21.5 inch 1080p monitor. Those UI elements could get smaller.
 
Next announcement

Imac pros with black aluminum, retina display, ddr5 ram.

Budget iMacs with multi colored plastic cases and reg specs.
 
That is your issue to get over, not Apples to placate

I suppose using "we" to refer to MacRumors in general was a bit misleading. I never expected or anticipated any new hardware myself, certainly not new Macs (spec bump or otherwise). I was just mocking the general tone of expecting things at WWDC, as if someone found money on a particular part of a road and now they find themselves repeatedly looking there as they pass by, even years later.
 
Like I thought....Retina/4K won't be coming to the iMac until late 2015. Price would be too much of a turnoff for it's target market right now.

Spec bump, $100 price drop (which would actually just take the starting price back to what it was pre-2012 redesign), and Thunderbolt 2. Makes sense.
 
Retina iMacs

I would think that Retina iMacs will wait for the Broadwell CPU if not the Skylake. Since stronger graphics will be needed the more efficient Broadwell and/or Skylake CPU would reduce the power requirements of the CPU which power savings could then be utilized by the stronger graphics card. This would put the timeline at the first part of 2015 if not a bit later.

Why is the code in Yosemite? 10.10 will likely be around until Fall 2015 and would be the current OS when Retina iMacs are released.
 
Next announcement

Imac pros with black aluminum, retina display, ddr5 ram.

Budget iMacs with multi colored plastic cases and reg specs.

Id go for an iMac pro, i dont mind the price as long as it's state of the art and beyond specs. I got no beef with the current design.

Secondly I don't understand the talk about waiting for skylake, why wouldn't apple just sell the latest Intel Hw meaning an update next week and another one whenever the next tick and tock happens.
 
If 4K keeps coming down, they could probably get pretty close in pricing and slowly phase the old ones out as they did with the retina macbook pros.

4K isn't "coming down" as much as manufacturers are just piggy backing on the 4K marketing momentum and releasing cheaper quality displays to get suckers to overpay for them (30Hz, TN panels, etc).

The Sharp PN-K321...the only 4K display Apple is willing to sell in it's store and a true high end display, still costs $3,595! The ASUS 321Q is still $2,400 on Amazon. Those are the kinds of panels Apple would put in an iMac and the reason why we won't see one for awhile given the added cost of the computer behind it.
 
like the MBA's faster? i'd prefer an SSD price decrease than a retina screen. make the quad i7 1TB SSD 27 inch 2500.00 ish.

I'm hoping for SSD being the default option. I'd like to not have to open up the machine, or pay some obscene ransom, to have decent internal storage.
 
Why would someone want to waste GPU power on pushing more pixels on an imac? The resolution is fantastic, as is.

If you think you need a retina imac, then you are easily fooled by marketing gimmicks.

You're wrong! My eyes literally bleed every time I see anything below what Apple tells me is considered Retina.

/s
 
According to dailytech, China is debating whether or not to prohibit the sale of all Apple products and block the use of Google.com and its products (allegedly) due to fears of NSA spying. It has already banned Windows 8 for the same reason.

I'm sure they could try to ban the sales of Apple products, but the grey market would explode. Something that creates so much revenue in the country is hopefully just the Government posturing to get attention and assert how 'dominant' they are. I hope!

But unfortunately Google already doesn't work well here, and over the last few weeks its 'service' has dropped to nearly nill in Shanghai, the page just sits and doesn't load properly, rather than an actual denial of the address. Rather frustrating to have to turn on my VPN to Google something. In this case they have always had a vested interest to gimp Google and it's services, so they can push Baidu!

As for Windows, it's next to impossible to get a legit copy of any software in this city, and if you do find it, it's for sale next to the pirated copy, so no consumer buys it. Similarly I seriously have never seen a legal DVD/Bluray in over two year's I've lived here.

This turned into another Shanghai rant, sorry :p
 
Yawn. Call me when the mini gets updated.

I was planning to get one after the next refresh. But if Apple replaces the Mini with a low-end iMac, as some speculate, I'll be getting a mid-range iMac when my 2008 iMac conks out. Retina isn't important to me, so I don't need to wait for that.
 
Two spec bumps for 2014! New products and pure innovation....

Well remember what Cook said in his WSJ interview;

"He demurred when asked about specific possible products, but said anyone "reasonable" would consider Apple's upcoming products to be in new categories."
 
Budget iMacs with multi colored plastic cases and reg specs.

It would be interesting to have a brown iMac. Or orange ...

Something like this (look at the attachment).
But for now it is too expensive.
 

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like the MBA's faster? i'd prefer an SSD price decrease than a retina screen. make the quad i7 1TB SSD 27 inch 2500.00 ish.

You want a TB SSD?

Why would someone want to waste GPU power on pushing more pixels on an imac? The resolution is fantastic, as is.

If you think you need a retina imac, then you are easily fooled by marketing gimmicks.

I agree the current resolution of the iMac is great. I think retina iMac is overrated but will be coming eventually.

I think they are coming out with a Touchscreen iMac in the fall, all the changes in Mavericks seem geared towards that.

What ??

I know this has already been said here, but it bears repeating:

What is the true advantage of a Retina display at current processor/memory specs?

I'm running a fully bumped up 2013 iMac with 32GB RAM & 3TB Fusion, and pushing a lot of photography through it with a 2nd 27 inch display.
It's doing fine, but it's also somewhere near it's limit some days. The current display is incredible and I'd be very wary of pushing a retina display if the back end can't handle it.

Unless there is enough graphics power and processor power, the iMac is probably going to need more than a mid-cycle speed bump to run retina.

Ask yourself this: Does a retina iMac sound like a good idea? Is a retina iMac actually necessary, even at the cost of performance?

I'm sure Apple have got this, but not sure if there's really (really?) any true advantage for most uses.

For what most people use an iMac for web browsing, email, viewing photos, etc. the current CPU/GPU is more than enough to drive a 4k/5k display

Really? I would think there has to be SOME touch optimization just for that god awful external touch trackpad to work.
It is an incredible external trackpad, and at kind of touch is different than touchscreen
 
4K isn't "coming down" as much as manufacturers are just piggy backing on the 4K marketing momentum and releasing cheaper quality displays to get suckers to overpay for them (30Hz, TN panels, etc).

The Sharp PN-K321...the only 4K display Apple is willing to sell in it's store and a true high end display, still costs $3,595! The ASUS 321Q is still $2,400 on Amazon. Those are the kinds of panels Apple would put in an iMac and the reason why we won't see one for awhile given the added cost of the computer behind it.

Have you looked at the cost of atypical sizes outside of 4K? Even last year some 30" displays sold for around $2000, which is an enormous gap compared to 27" displays. I also don't expect Apple to go from 27" to 32" on the imac. The Dell might be a better reference, as Dell's top displays typically hover in the same initial price territory as Apple's. It's also not just the panel. There are manufacturers who use similar panels to what is in the thunderbolt display. Prices vary from around $400 to around $2500. Toward the high end of that the oems tend to bin these things further and add a lot of proprietary tech, but the basic panel isn't very different. 24" is a more common size, and Dell's IPS 24" UP2414Q sells around $800 now. I could see Apple going to 4K next year or as far as the year after. Like you I don't see it happening in the current year.

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If paired with a dGPU, then the HD 4600 makes alot of sense in an iMac. The non HD 5xxxx ( Iris / Iris Pro ) CPU+GPU packages cost less which would help with Apple's problem of higher price drift.

The OS X tech to switch lower TDP GPUs will only dealing with light graphics workloads would lower temperature inside of the iMac also. If just watching Netlfixs full screen, reading email, or typing a long report there isn't huge necessity for a dGPU.

I missed this one. Apple typically migrates to less expensive hardware when there is a real change in hardware generation so as to mitigate lowered performance as much as possible. They went with Iris Pro last time in the same hardware generation, so it seems unlikely that they would now jump to HD 4600 on a mid generation spec bump to control pricing. It would surprise me less on the switch to Broadwell, but the price drift on the 21" surprises me somewhat. 21" panels aren't terribly expensive at this point. It has maintained an HDD, and they pulled the dGPU. I kind of wonder what motivates the price drift in the first place.
 
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