Good old AT&T. We'll keep our existing customers, not by giving them good cell service, or good customer service, or competitive prices, but by making it incredibly expensive and difficult for them to switch to the competition.
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Apple Reportedly Orders CDMA Chips for December Production Run of Verizon iPhone
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Good old AT&T. We'll keep our existing customers, not by giving them good cell service, or good customer service, or competitive prices, but by making it incredibly expensive and difficult for them to switch to the competition.
I know people with VZW and they all complain about them the same way people complain about AT&T. The difference is that blogs on the internet discuss every complaint about AT&T because they are associated with Apple and the iPhone.
Depending on where you live every cell provider in the US can be great or horrible.
why? Sell old stock at max price w. only changing a few bits. It makes perfect financial sense. Milk the sucker...err consumers for what you can with present model then get consumption lust for new one.
Does it really matter ? come on ? Think about it ? Verzion has never had the iphone and frankly I can't wait for them to get it ? Being the fact it will be a CDMA phone as mentioned in this article .. Hmmmmmmmmmmm, lets see , isn't verizon switching there systems to LTE network ... What's that going to do for the NEW VERIZON IPHONE ? ? Hmmmmmmmm, make it useless soon ??? I have had both services and there is positives and negatives to both. People only see the negatives and if you are a AT&T hater , after Verizon gets the Iphone , you might become a Verizon Hater as well. WE all know it depends where you are with you phone , how great your service can be , so stop bashing AT&T cause, Verizon has it's issues too. JUST YOU WAIT AND SEE
Oh please. It will be YEARS before LTE coverage is good on any network. Take a look at 3G UMTS/HSDPA networks around the world. They've been implementing that stuff for years. Can it replace standard GSM yet anywhere? No it can't. GSM (EDGE/GPRS) coverage is still way better. It'll be the same for the first 5-10 years of LTE rollout. Hell, you Americans even have areas without basic GSM coverage.
I really don't understand why people think that LTE coverage will be any good for the first 5 years. LTE won't just go "poof" out of nowhere and give you instant 100% coverage.
And even if it could. They can't just alienate the millions of CDMA customers.
That said I can see the iPhone 5 being a GSM/CDMA/LTE hybrid but it wouldn't surprise me if it only supports GSM and CDMA.
I've had both and Verizon has lots of flaws but their coverage and dropped calls has been heads and shoulders above AT&T. It's not just perception.
Because apple thrives on the first day sales hype. And if everyone is locked in (or if the first day they can buy a new model is 6 months after the Other carrier got it), there's no hype.
Wait a minute, you don't think that an iPhone coming to Verizon would be hype enough?
I totally disagree.
Around here Verizon is more widely available but slower than AT&T for data.
So I guess you get some benefits with better call coverage and sacrifice speed.
But at least you would be able to make a phone call.
Here we go...
It shouldnt even be considered a rumor anymore IMO. Seems more like an eventuality...and really just the logical step.
It shouldnt even be considered a rumor anymore IMO. Seems more like an eventuality...and really just the logical step.
In light of the incredible growth of Android's market share, Apple must diversify its carrier offerings or face irrelevance in the US market. People say "but iPhone is a more profitable platform for developers", which may be true today, but when Android market share far outstrips iPhone, who will be more profitable then?
It's the classic Windows vs. Mac battle shaping up in the mobile space. And Apple is making all of the same mistakes it made decades ago when it was fighting Microsoft. Apple needs multiple carriers in the US now in order to keep pace with Android or have any hope of winning this fight.
Also, I think it's funny how you see all these press releases of how Android phones are outselling iPhones. If you are going to make a comparison of multiple OEM manufacturers versus one, then don't compare phone sales - compare total installed OS base. What are the worldwide numbers of Android vs. iOS? That is what will ultimately be of utmost importance to developers, and with Android tablets hitting the market soon, their numbers will start rising.
It's the classic Windows vs. Mac battle shaping up in the mobile space. And Apple is making all of the same mistakes it made decades ago when it was fighting Microsoft. Apple needs multiple carriers in the US now in order to keep pace with Android or have any hope of winning this fight.
Also, I think it's funny how you see all these press releases of how Android phones are outselling iPhones. If you are going to make a comparison of multiple OEM manufacturers versus one, then don't compare phone sales - compare total installed OS base. What are the worldwide numbers of Android vs. iOS? That is what will ultimately be of utmost importance to developers, and with Android tablets hitting the market soon, their numbers will start rising.
As a shareholder
Ill be really upset at Apple and their corporate planning if iPhone is really coming in January. All through the christmas buying season, the message to people will be wait, there might be a Verizon iphone coming out in 4-6 weeks.
Not to mention that if they did come out with a Verizon iPhone in January, the message to new buyers is you could either jump on this now, or wait six months to see what the iPhone 5 looks like. A large portion of existing iPhone users will be locked into their existing yearly contract, and unwilling to upgrade to the model, hurting sales.
Ill be really upset at Apple and their corporate planning if iPhone is really coming in January. All through the christmas buying season, the message to people will be wait, there might be a Verizon iphone coming out in 4-6 weeks.
Not to mention that if they did come out with a Verizon iPhone in January, the message to new buyers is you could either jump on this now, or wait six months to see what the iPhone 5 looks like. A large portion of existing iPhone users will be locked into their existing yearly contract, and unwilling to upgrade to the model, hurting sales.
You entirely missed my point. What happens when iPhone 5 comes to AT&T and not vz 6 months later? Then 6 months after that vz gets iPhone 5, but there is no hype since it has already been sold for 6 months to everyone else in the world.
Exactly.
It's not if, it's when. Apple is savvy enough to know the huge potential that Verizon and other non-GSM providers offers to them. They've proved the market and their value with their exclusive agreement w. AT&T, now it's time to move on.
Good for ATT
1) competition to compare the performance against ATT iPhone
2) Most or some of the bandwidth usage will deflect to Verizon network
3) Verizon still need to offer $15 200MB data plan
4) CDMA iPhone - so GSM (ATT) iPhone has more RESALE value
5) No complaints from SFO, NYC cities where Verizon has strong hold
6) lots of customers already locked up in iPhone 4 with 2 year contract with ATT
and good for customers who live in Verizon only network.
i wish it was announced for both Verizon and T-Mobile then we have fiery competition and customers win!
1) competition to compare the performance against ATT iPhone
2) Most or some of the bandwidth usage will deflect to Verizon network
3) Verizon still need to offer $15 200MB data plan
4) CDMA iPhone - so GSM (ATT) iPhone has more RESALE value
5) No complaints from SFO, NYC cities where Verizon has strong hold
6) lots of customers already locked up in iPhone 4 with 2 year contract with ATT
and good for customers who live in Verizon only network.
i wish it was announced for both Verizon and T-Mobile then we have fiery competition and customers win!
that might be negotiation going on between Verizon and APPLE, where to put VERIZON logo on the iPhone and let us see who won the battle
I think I got your point but don't comprehend your logic. Why wouldn't they offer the phone to everyone at the same time?
It's really not a big deal to offer concurrent models with different RF chipsets.
That was my premise - they will keep the phones in synch. You are the one who disagreed with me.
Further, the next model will be mid year, so that's the synch point.
So you really think they wouldn't throw in a CDMA chipset and sell iP4 on Verizon for six to seven months before next cycle? Did I misunderstand something?
If I didn't misunderstand, I still disagree.
Yes. They will not have a six month cycle. The carriers will be willing to eat part of the subsidy to allow early upgraders once a year, but not for those who've owned the phone six months. And apple will never stoop to the android flavor of the minute strategy.
Once a year, and in synch. Just watch.
Even MacRumors realizes these rumors have been worthless
At this point I won't believe anything about a Verizon iPhone unless there is a formal announcement from Apple.