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Wasn't there an article on here a month ago about a chip that worked on all the American networks and how Apple could use that and make the iphone universal? Wouldn't a one chip, one phone manufacturing process be much more streamlined?


Frankly I am just waiting for the 64 gig hard drive in January.
 
You know, USA, you CAN actually agree on _one_ mobile standard without commiting the ultimate sin of Socialism.
Think about it...

Slippery slope, man. First you unify the cellular standards, next thing you know you're buying weed in coffee shops and have free mass transit. Hey, wait a minute...

:rolleyes:
 
Yes. They will not have a six month cycle. The carriers will be willing to eat part of the subsidy to allow early upgraders once a year, but not for those who've owned the phone six months. And apple will never stoop to the android flavor of the minute strategy.

Once a year, and in synch. Just watch.

I will do just that.

Once production is flowing on a product, a small change such as CDMA from GSM would bring in big $$$$'s. Everyone knows the trouble releasing & manufacturing a new product brings with meeting supply demands. Why not release a CDMA iP4 after the initial rush of AT&T and other carrier demands have slowed? It makes perfect business sense.

I don't think the carriers give a rats ass about subsidizing a phone every six months. They only care to pony up a subsidy when it's time for contract renewal.
 
I can't wait for it to be true so that all the bitching forum members can finally shut up.

Unfortunately they'll all bitch about how Verizon is having the same issues at&t has with the amount of data being used and the network being **** when it's crowded.
 
I’ll be really upset at Apple and their corporate planning if iPhone is really coming in January. All through the christmas buying season, the message to people will be ‘wait, there might be a Verizon iphone coming out in 4-6 weeks’.

Not to mention that if they did come out with a Verizon iPhone in January, the message to new buyers is ‘you could either jump on this now, or wait six months to see what the iPhone 5 looks like’. A large portion of existing iPhone users will be locked into their existing yearly contract, and unwilling to upgrade to the model, hurting sales.

They did it with iPods before they went to the September cycle. They'd announce new ones at Macworld right after Christmas.

And you need to think about the regular consumer. They don't switch carriers that often. They choose their carrier, then their phone. They don't go phone first, then carrier.
 
I see this more likely as a CMDA iPhone for China or iPad support on Verizon. As AT&T and Verizon are both moving toward LTE, I can see Apple preferring to use that technology instead of CDMA. Apple went with GSM because it provided global connectivity.

I used to work for a modem company, and it was a pain to make it work in all countries. Ethernet and GSM solved these international problems.

As far as Verizon's CDMA network after LTE, I don't think it will be around for 8-10 years. Most phones will be "dual band" CDMA/LTE much as there were "dual band" Analog/Digital phones. With an upgrade cycle every 2-3 years, I think the transition will happen sooner than that.

The analog cell network lasted a lot longer because there were services such as OnStar and MB's TeleAid systems that were still using analog signaling and people hang onto their cars a lot longer than their phones. This may also be the case with GSM and CMDA.

Assuming Verizon and AT&T roll out LTE everywhere, I see an overlap of 5-6 years. for CDMA/LTE/GSM, but it will probably be longer.
 
I see this more likely as a CMDA iPhone for China or iPad support on Verizon. As AT&T and Verizon are both moving toward LTE, I can see Apple preferring to use that technology instead of CDMA. Apple went with GSM because it provided global connectivity.

I used to work for a modem company, and it was a pain to make it work in all countries. Ethernet and GSM solved these international problems.

As far as Verizon's CDMA network after LTE, I don't think it will be around for 8-10 years. Most phones will be "dual band" CDMA/LTE much as there were "dual band" Analog/Digital phones. With an upgrade cycle every 2-3 years, I think the transition will happen sooner than that.

The analog cell network lasted a lot longer because there were services such as OnStar and MB's TeleAid systems that were still using analog signaling and people hang onto their cars a lot longer than their phones. This may also be the case with GSM and CMDA.

Assuming Verizon and AT&T roll out LTE everywhere, I see an overlap of 5-6 years. for CDMA/LTE/GSM, but it will probably be longer.

Considering that it seems LTE is going to be data-only for a time as they get the network built they would need to include a CDMA chip for calls and data in places without LTE. A CDMA chip is needed no matter what. You can't just ignore that network when introducing a Verizon iPhone. Apple needs to announce a Verizon iPhone soon so they can start capturing that market because Android is quickly gaining.
 
ill probably switch back to verizon in 2 years if they have it. im in no rush to switch.
 
Yup, here we go again! The drooling begins... ain't Steve Jobs is the one who suppose to announce things and not this drooling CEO of Verizon....:p
 
Yup, here we go again! The drooling begins... ain't Steve Jobs is the one who suppose to announce things and not this drooling CEO of Verizon....:p

what if it is announced in Mid-August iPod event and release for January ;)

but agreed, Verizon booted Apple first when they went to ask them, it would be irony to share the stage with Verizon CEO to announce iPhone better be a separate Apple event!
 
I like how AT&T's stance is that they have buried their customers so deep in cancelation fees that their customers have no choice but to stay. Not that any other carrier is different, it just shows that they know without those fees, they would be screwed.
 
that's really sad, no tmobile iphone.........but rumor is still rumor

Tell T-Mobile to use frequencies that make sense and then Apple will make a T-Mobile iPhone. AWS? Jesus, T-Mobile, you really don't want to try.

You're assuming Apple is going to break a contract? The contract details have never been made public so that's total speculation.

I don't remember if it was included in the MacRumors story but Engadget reported that at&t filed with the FTC in an earnings report that they wouldn't be hurt by exclusivity agreements that are ending soon. People read into this iPhone, whether correct or not, and are hoping that it means at&t is losing it's exclusivity soon.
 
You're assuming Apple is going to break a contract? The contract details have never been made public so that's total speculation.

then what is holding them? :rolleyes:

if not Verizon; there is no reason NOT go with T-mobile (except little bit of tweak in the radio) !.

i had go with T-mobile any day than ATT and Verizon, i live in downtown portland; all are same and t-mobile prices are much better.
 
what if it is announced in Mid-August iPod event and release for January ;)

but agreed, Verizon booted Apple first when they went to ask them, it would be irony to share the stage with Verizon CEO to announce iPhone better be a separate Apple event!

I don't see Apple doing that. By announcing now and making people wait you'll still lose sales. It's either announce at the late-August/early-September iPod event, January, or June. Everyone assumes January because that's when the iPhone was first announced in 2007 but no one knows when the at&t exclusivity started. Did it start the day the iPhone went on sale or the day Apple announced it?
 
what if it is announced in Mid-August iPod event and release for January ;)

but agreed, Verizon booted Apple first when they went to ask them, it would be irony to share the stage with Verizon CEO to announce iPhone better be a separate Apple event!

Verizon knew nothing about smartphones or their market appeal four years ago and was king of the hill. AT&T needed Apple, Apple needed AT&T. Verizon didn't need Apple and I'm sure wouldn't have been allowed to bastardize Apple phones the way they did (and are starting to again as winessed w. my Droid X.)

They are both in a perfect position to rethink market strategies.

They'll hug it out.;)
 
I like how AT&T's stance is that they have buried their customers so deep in cancelation fees that their customers have no choice but to stay. Not that any other carrier is different, it just shows that they know without those fees, they would be screwed.

hey, not matter how much we hate ATT; do not pick ATT alone, all the providers are charging early termination fee in the range of $300

it was already told the reason ATT allowed customer who completed one year contract to upgrade iPhone 4 is to lock them up for two years (in the light of iPhone going other providers)

so it we (customers) chose to upgrade the iPhone 4 and agreed to two year contract (knowing iPhone will come to other provider anytime)
 
FANDROIDS MOBILIZE!

The impact a multi-carrier (in the US) iPhone will have on Android will be interesting to watch, as I believe iPhone single-carrier exclusivity has been the primary element fueling Android's rise.

Throw WinPho 7 into the mix, and we're going to see some very entertaining online flamewars in the coming months. :)
 
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