“Apple will release a thing that some folks won’t be able to buy.” A VERY true statement.Interesting article!
16-inch iPad would be wonderful, but too expensive for consumers
A report yesterday suggested that Apple has a 16-inch iPad in the works, which could be released late next year....9to5mac.com
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Apple Reportedly Planning to Release Larger 16-Inch iPad Next Year
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As long as you have a desk, a chair, and an electrical outlet. A 16" iPad would be an entirely different type of device.
There are a lot of future adults that have brains geared towards touch interfaces that will likely never be comfortable with interacting with a computer primarily one point at a time. There are user interfaces that these folks will create, with multitouch as an assumption, that will benefit from a more expansive surface. The original “Microsoft Surface” (now called PixelSense) was an exploration in this area, but, as most of the adults at the time were still geared towards mouse and pointer, the interfaces were touch enabled versions of point and click interfaces.
There will come a time when having all 10 fingers touching a device capable of 10 or more finger input will be “just the way things are done” just as the mouse became how things are done.
Great question. When Tim Cook announced the very first iPad Pro (9.7" screen size) he said this about the device: "iPad Pro is the clearest expression of our vision of the future of personal computing"
Given what we're seeing today, this quote makes a lot of sense.
I'm sorry, I wasn't making myself clear. The point I was trying to make is that iPadOS has a place as a next-generation OS if/when Apple decides that is mature enough to replace the Mac. I'm probably talking decades in the future given the snail-like pace that iPadOS is taken to get to where it is now (neither here nor there).
I'm not saying put macOS on the iPad. I'm saying make iPadOS as capable as macOS with the advantage of being a touch-first OS since the touch-first OSes are now the most used by people and that trend is only going to get worse. So in that scenario, if you want a MacBook-like experience, you would use a big iPad with a keyboard. If you want a desktop-like experience, you would pair the iPad to a big monitor.
Back to the 16-inch iPad: It's great that they make the device, but if iPadOS doesn't get better than what it is now, it's just a waste of time and money except for designers/ilustrators. So, I agree with you, it wouldn't be a great investment given what the OS is now.
And by the way for people saying it's too heavy: Just because it's a big iPad doesn't mean you are going to use it as you use the smallest iPad, sitting on the toilet watching videos. The point of a big iPad is to have a huge canvas, not to be used as a light-travel thing. Just like a 16-inch MacBook Pro isn't designed for light-travel. You would use it sitted down at a desk. People were saying similar things when the 12.9-inch iPad Pro was launched.
...and they'll call it the IPAD PRO MAX ULTRA PLUS STUDIO. I don't mind having screen size options, but I really hate when they lock certain features only to the bigger models. I do miss the simplicity of the product lineup when Steve ran things. We didn't always get what we wanted, but at least we knew we had THE device that did everything and had all the latest features. It's gotten very convoluted and confusing.
Precisely. That's my thinking. When the first iPad dropped in 2010 I tought the iPad would be the future of the Mac. I'm still waiting for that, to be sure. I don't see how they can co-exist when the iPad Pro seems to serve the same needs of a laptop. If iPadOS were as capable as macOS, why would the Mac exist?
Macs would still exist for two reasons:
1. For legacy workflows (ie: for users that will need access to command line tools)
2. For more horsepower. Macs with Apple Silicon have much more powerful SoC's and can be configured with up to 128GB RAM. I don't see iPads getting that kind of performance anytime soon.
And watchOS, and tvOS, and realityOS...
Excepting the fact that the entire idea behind the iPad is the touch screen, which the MacBook Pro does not have...
If we get a macOS Lite, I would think the Terminal would be a part of that...?
There will definitely be room for more powerful Macs, but the allure of the larger iPad Pro with some variant of macOS is highly compelling for the "casual prosumer"...?
I'm doubtful. macOS Lite tells me, it's a macOS for iPads. IOW, macOS without the "legacy" bits (ie: AppKit, Terminal, etc.) and no sideloading.
Gotcha, okay yes I 100% agree with iPad needing to be sped up to be the device that it can be, we are on the 2nd gen of M-series chips on the iPad and by what is capable on the equivalent Mac the iPad severely limited. The little sneak peak preview of DaVinci Resolve coming to the Ipad certainly proves the capability especially since it appears to be pretty close to 100% to the desktop version from some deep dive videos I have seen into looking at all the icons available and screen shown.
Oh I completely understand the larger size being for a larger canvas and think the 16" will be great for that, I just think the niche for it will be small in comparison to current iPad size line-up much like the iPhone mini still selling a good amount, but one the niche market has theirs it kind of dried up.
studio is more like a touch screen iMac. Its non portable, runs full OS, and costs $3500. Its not something you scribble on in the airport's lounge.
issue is no doubt this will be more than the macbook pro 16 inch given cost of a MK. Im curious to see why people want this.
What does the price of the MK have to do with it? Any BT keyboard works, there are plenty of options here. Indeed not having a keyboard at all is a perfectly valid option. There is no need to inflate the perceived cost by adding 1st party accessories as 'must have' additions.
People want this over a 16" mbp - or indeed any MacOS based system, because it's a completely different device. It's baffling to me why people cant work this out.
For the same reason people get a 13" iPad Pro instead of a MacBook Air.
Because they enjoy using iPads.
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What does it have to do with it? quite alot if you plan on using it your lap. BT keyboards work fine if you are only on a desk. If you want to use it in more than one place you will need a MK or something along those lines with a 3rd party company which will still not be cheap.
This has gone behind being ideal for a tablet. 10/11 and 12.9 inch tablets really is the limit in terms of using it with a smart folio. anything more than that becomes a massive cost for poor portability. the ipad pro 12.9 is about the biggest without it becoming a pain to use or hold in anything but a keyboard.
You are entitled to your opinion, but its not a fact. As a tactile editing/drawing surface, larger often equals better, and other metrics are not overly relevant.
There are two different ideas which people seem to be conflating.
The cost of an iPad is irrelevant. Do you enjoy using an iPad with detachable keyboard (13" or 16") more than a MacBook enough to justify its cost? If yes, get the iPad.
The size of the iPad is irrelevant. Do you accept bringing an iPad with detachable keyboard (13" or 16") will be similar to bringing the same sized laptop? If yes, get the iPad.
There is no correct answer and you don't have to understand anyone else's motivation for buying and enjoying an iPad instead of a MacBook.
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Perhaps I used the wrong word - I ment I hope it's an opportunity to do something a bit more innovative than just a "bigger" iPad with iPadOS.
- removing the back camera and use the space for something else
- ability to use multiple pencils at once (e.g. whiteboard)
- 16" actually foldable, so you can use it as sort of two regular ipads pasted together
Getting files from one place to another, one app to another, one person to another or one format to another, all extremely common in most workflows and all are bottlenecks in iPadOS.