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Apple Reportedly Plans to Cut Price of iPhone XR in Japan Due to Poor Sales and Restart iPhone X Production
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The self satisfaction is strong in this thread. I for sure am happy that Apple is being proven wrong by the market.
What? You really think people from a distance make judgements about you based on the phone you own and use?
Seriously?
What country do you live in?
The Air just became the cheap model. When it was first released it was very expensive for what it was... it was never meant to be the Volkswagen of laptops. It just became that way due to age and lack of updates.
Apple’s current product lineup is VERY nice. The overwhelming common flaw across the board are prices.
I understand they have to make a profit, but come on... They’ll still be making a profit and sell even MORE if they make the prices more reasonable.
It doesn’t make sense.
I understand they have to make a profit, but come on... They’ll still be making a profit and sell even MORE if they make the prices more reasonable.
It doesn’t make sense.
Why do people whine about prices? Too expensive for you, don't buy it. Problem solved.
There are tons of Windows computers you can buy cheap, and crappy android phones that wont ever see one update to buy
Apple has far more insight into what consumers buy of their products and at what price points than a group of people chatting in a forum ever will. Apple, like all businesses, sets prices according to what they perceive the market will bear.
The iPhone you buy will last you a LONG time if you care, i've been keeping my iphones 3.5 years on average. Name me one android phone that gets support that long? Apple is likely charging more because they see consumers are using their phones years longer than they used to...
There are other companies in the worth that make "other stuff like cars and ships" and then make phones. In the US, some companies made MRIs and owned TV stations. The conglomerates can do what they want.
Frankly the only thing worth buying from Samsung is their TVs, and that's exactly what I do. Yes, Samsung does have an chip manufacturing business as well.
I'm glad you brought up the point about the price of the Note 9. I hear almost nobody complaining about the price, because it seems there are 50% discounts out there, which makes the price almost reasonable (and the sales are still low). Apple has no such promotions and when they take a step, the sky is falling, Tim Cook is greedy, the board should get rid of him and then what actually happens, is way afield from the rumors.
Why do people whine about prices? Too expensive for you, don't buy it. Problem solved.
There are tons of Windows computers you can buy cheap, and crappy android phones that wont ever see one update to buy
Apple has far more insight into what consumers buy of their products and at what price points than a group of people chatting in a forum ever will. Apple, like all businesses, sets prices according to what they perceive the market will bear.
But that takes courage to switch. Seems that's lacking. Forum whines are easy.
Well there are 326.7 million people living in the US so if the sales estimate you quoted is correct, that would be less than 1%.
Samsung makes great stuff but the TVs aren't one of them.
Well, Samsung's are pretty good TV sets but far below the best the market has to offer.
I agree.
Especially in Europe, the prices for many Apple products have gone beyond reasonable: I'd buy many of their new products at their USD prices, but not for what they cost here in Euros.
I've usually upgraded my iPhone each year. I saw no incentive in upgrading my €1.349 iPhone X 256 GB to iPhone XS with exactly the same price. The yearly cost is just not justifiable anymore, at least not for me.
Another customer-friendly strategy would be to include 128GB in the base model for iPhone X and iPad Pros. 64 GB is too little, 256 GB is of course fine, but overkill for many – especially for the price premium it comes with.
Compromise on storage or be milked by Apple. Neither are customer-friendly options (the latter is a stockholder-friendly option). Apple should at least try to offer us better value for money; it's the decisions of us customers that make or break Apple.
We've already voted with out wallets for $200bn worth in Apple's declined market cap. Maybe Apple will learn from it.
When the Air was originally released, it was around $1700. Then with subsequent updates and redesigns, it got dropped down to $999 and thus became the default mainstream laptop
Shareholders: your sales are down, we think the price too high
Apple: we now offer 36 month Apple upgrade program
Apple: we now offer 36 month Apple upgrade program
Selling more isn't the end game. Selling more means more support costs, more warranty costs, etc. Apple sells a service and it prices it's service appropriately for it's market. Underpricing is just as bad overpricing (of course people would like to see apple tank and the price of the products slashed in half and Tim Cook fired and another Steve Jobs type reinstated, but none of that will happen in the real world ...the company is very smart and can turn on a dime).
I guess. But with data so moveable nowadays its not hard. In old days your data was locked in proprietary single platform software, now most things we create are available on multiple platforms whose files work across the platforms (Android, iOS, MacOs, Windows, and even linux). It really is so much better than it was a decade ago!
Yeah that's traditionally been the case - you pay a premium in the first year or two and after that they start bringing the price back down. The issue is the 'bringing the price back down' part seems to have quietly gone away with recent model launches - the 12" MacBook is still at $1,299 despite repeated rumours it would start getting a price cut. The XS was rumoured to start at $899 and the Max at $999, but they were in reality $100 more than that, the MacBook Pros have started at the same significantly higher price since they were redesigned in 2016. iPad pro models have also seen a price escalation with each release.
Sales were considered abysmal too at the higher price point. Apple Also did the same with the original iPhone. it's price was seen as ridiculously high that sales were much lower than expected. Apple dropped the price and they started flying off the shelves.
Apple has always been a premium priced company. But there's an upper limit to that price point that can be set before users / consumers start to question the value for those prices. Once pricing becomes too high, it (like basic economics 101 teachs) will have affect on decreased demand.
You're absolutely right. I think many people, though, are not internally happy or at peace. And for some, lashing out at The Man (Apple, TC, etc) elevates ones sense of worth and self respect, providing a short-lived blip of power.
And approximately $2 billion of that growth will be services. iPhone revenue could drop by over $1B and Apple could still meet the $89B lower end of its guidance.
Still using my 6s plus. Working perfectly, no freaking chance I buy a new Apple device ever again.
When it's time to upgrade I'll buy an iphone at least 2 generations old.
I bought my 6s plus when the 8s were coming out at a big savings. best decision ever.
Tim Cook & Co are all out of ideas to keep selling the high demanded product. So they just decided to raise prices. No Jobs to tell them what to do next.
I am tired of having a "breakthrough" device on a yearly basis. Maybe we should go back to when new products were launched every 3-5 years and were stable, by the time you learn how to use a software a new GUI has been rolled out with cut out features and new features... it never ends.
I am tired of having a "breakthrough" device on a yearly basis. Maybe we should go back to when new products were launched every 3-5 years and were stable, by the time you learn how to use a software a new GUI has been rolled out with cut out features and new features... it never ends.
This misses the point that everything else is generally tied to their iOS device sales. Most of their services rely on iOS users using those services (Due to a lack of cross platform support for most of their services).
if iPhone sales tank, it's very likely that other categories (with some lag) will also eventually decrease. Less iOS eusers means less service revenues, less accessories revenues (less watch sales, less homepod sales, less AirPod, Less, dongles, etc).
this is why investors are spooked about the increased prices and the lack of volume reporting. there's a holistic picture here, and impact against iphone sales has further reaching affects outside of just the iPhone category.
Face ID is a lot more practical in the winter. I can unlock my phone without having to take my gloves off.