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Apple Reportedly Storing Over 8 Million Terabytes of iCloud Data on Google Servers
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It’s a shame that Apple *CAN* provide end-to-end encryption of iCloud data, they just choose not to. Courage much?
Exclusive: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained - sources
Apple Inc dropped plans to let iPhone users fully encrypt backups of their devices in the company's iCloud service after the FBI complained that the move would harm investigations, six sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.
I like how people jump to the conclusions that google will take their private data. Google's ToS do like to use your data for free services, however once you pay, i.e. Google Workspace, everything is different. Google will have no access to any data that Apple are hosting.
Apple use third parties for data storage, you can even host it yourself if you want to be a part of Apple Edge Cache programme.
Apple use third parties for data storage, you can even host it yourself if you want to be a part of Apple Edge Cache programme.
Apple keeps the data encrypted, and Google uses 100% renewable energy at its data centers. So wherein lies the tragedy?
I'm glad that I do anything in old style. Just safe my stuff at the Mac or in hard drives. iPhone has 512 gigs, no need for cloud. But if you do plz remember that google has a quantum computer. so encryption is no big deal for them. there is a very little possibility that it bounces back - but imagine, you'r facing innocent an trial and someone comes around with your data and you get nailed after that...
Murphys law - anything what can go wrong will go wrong. Law 2: never trust google.
Murphys law - anything what can go wrong will go wrong. Law 2: never trust google.
And a disaster waiting to happen.
If anyone - NSA, CIA, China, Russia, NK, companies, private individuals at Google etc - are archiving these images if (or is it not a question of if, only when?) Apple's keys are ever compromised, everything that was stored there will be compromised.
Using off-device keys for any iCloud data is awful.
Apple having the keys is ensure there is NOT a high level of security since there are numerous ways they can be compromised, including subpoena and hacking.
This is a HUGE 3 million TB target. Just the fact that it is publicized makes it even more so - of course security through obscurity is never a good plan.
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So much for “green storage”. I wonder if all the data is stored in renewable energy operated facilities.
Spreading the storage across two different clouds, implemented using different technology, might just save a lot of bacon should something big and bad happen to one of them.
I have not the slightest idea whether some data is duplicated like that, but it would appear a pretty sensible approach.
I have not the slightest idea whether some data is duplicated like that, but it would appear a pretty sensible approach.
Apple does not INTENTIONALLY provide third-parties with the keys to decrypt user data...unless under court order or they are in China.
Or whenever Apple is hacked - I hope it never happens but nearly all the big companies have had it happen at one point or another.
Apple needs to just ignore the US Government and implement their plan to use on device keys to encrypt all data leaving the phone just as the phone is encrypted.
In western countries, it's been called "lawful access" ever since 9/11 (aka Patriot Act in the US) - but ALL countries around the world that care about espionage and terrorism have similar legislation.
EVERY service provider that has infrastructure has to provide access when given a subpoena by the government. Period. Don't like it? Don't do business in that country. Those are the rules.
Don't want the feds to get your data? Don't back your device up to the cloud.
I'm guessing that's $900/month. I've seen some companies cloud bills and it's amazing what they spend on cloud storage these days. That $900/month is impressive especially if that's just personal use.Nine hundred dollars per meter?
How about build their own cloud storage system rather than be Google's byotch. Apple is one of the most profitable companies on the planet, they can afford to create their own cloud storage system if they really wanted to. I'm so sick of people defending Apple no matter how cheapskate they become. I'm sure they save a lot of money using other companies' cloud storage, but that also puts them at the mercy of the other companies.
I don't have links but I could have sworn there were articles here on Macrumors years ago about Apple using AWS/Azure/Google for some storage but they were going to be building more/using their own cloud services eventually. This was years ago and I'm too lazy to look but I was really hoping that would be the case.
I realize using other cloud is a lot cheaper than rolling your own but I thought this was already happening... years ago.
It does if you have the Google app installed...Fixed.
"Ok, Google" doesn't work on iPhones
"Apple needs to just ignore the US Government and implement their plan to use on device keys to encrypt all data leaving the phone just as the phone is encrypted."
Who do you think would win that battle?
Cheapstake? And your sick of of people defending Apple? That's a bit hyperbolic considering (probably) no one here knows what is going on at Apple with respect to cloud development. It's not like it's an easy one, two, three process.
- Design the system
- Build out the infrastructure
- Hire a cloud developer or two to implement it
- Finished....ready to go
What superior tech does Apple have that makes them immune to the bad actors you named? Google as a company is garbage, but I doubt their servers are more vulnerable than Apple's.
That monthly Google Cloud bill will probably be at least $200 dollars, I think.
