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Apple Reportedly Storing Over 8 Million Terabytes of iCloud Data on Google Servers

This sort of thing happens more often than many people realize. There simply aren't many companies who own enough server and network infrastructure to host massive quantities of data with reasonable transfer speeds to and from the servers hosting it. Apple has always been WAY behind Amazon, Google or Microsoft with this because it's not really part of their business model. (Yes, they store all their customer data in iCloud -- but they're not really selling application hosting in the "Apple cloud" like Microsoft does with Azure, or Amazon or Google does.) In Amazon's case, for example? Practically every technology they develop internally is available to use as plug-in/companion code to whatever you build to run on their cloud servers. Need voice recognition for a cloud-hosted system that does voice response menus? You can pay to use the same one they use to make Alexa work. Need your app to do voice synthesis? You can license Alexa's speaking voice for that too. Need to host a massive database? You can pay to use the same proprietary, highly-scalable one Amazon built for its own internal use when it wanted to save money paying Oracle all the time for theirs....
 
w5jck said:
How about build their own cloud storage system rather than be Google's byotch. Apple is one of the most profitable companies on the planet, they can afford to create their own cloud storage system if they really wanted to. I'm so sick of people defending Apple no matter how cheapskate they become. I'm sure they save a lot of money using other companies' cloud storage, but that also puts them at the mercy of the other companies.
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They don't have server hardware anymore and the M1 chip has low max ram + storeage is not raid 1 , 5 , 6 , etc.
 
grantew1 said:
Apple does not provide third-party cloud storage providers with the keys to decrypt user data stored on their servers, ensuring a strong level of security.

Google doesn't have access to the data. What's a shame?
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Hmmm... So they decrypt it on the fly and send it to me? Seems very inefficient. So they must have some kind of proxy service, that routes all traffic to the enduser and google does not even get the user IP.
 
sdz said:
Hmmm... So they decrypt it on the fly and send it to me? Seems very inefficient. So they must have some kind of proxy service, that routes all traffic to the enduser and google does not even get the user IP.
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Almost every website and service encrypts and decrypts on the fly for transmission, including this one.
 
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Joe The Dragon said:
They don't have server hardware anymore and the M1 chip has low max ram + storeage is not raid 1 , 5 , 6 , etc.
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Was really hoping that Apple would increase its own data centers.
 
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dukeblue219 said:
Why do people want Apple to do everything in-house? They don't run their own fabs, they don't make displays, they don't build all their own datacenters. Why? Because those are commodity services that require massive investment and have short lifecycles. Apple is much better suited as a customer that can resell the value they create from those commodites at high margin.
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Someone just beg Apple to control his/her as a whole. They will be more than happy to buy everything made by Apple. I would not be surprised if Apple eventually builds their own fab, own screen factory, own components factory, and eventually becomes the world’s only company to completely produce any electronic device without any external support.
 
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They need to do something about this. This is spiraling out of control. They really need to control their own cloud servers top to bottom and the fact that this doesn’t seem to be important to them is worrying.
 
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Somehow if you brag about how secure your data is but you let Google store it - reduces my confidence significantly.
Apple could certainly build its own cloud storage
 
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fischersd said:
In western countries, it's been called "lawful access" ever since 9/11 (aka Patriot Act in the US) - but ALL countries around the world that care about espionage and terrorism have similar legislation.

EVERY service provider that has infrastructure has to provide access when given a subpoena by the government. Period. Don't like it? Don't do business in that country. Those are the rules.

Don't want the feds to get your data? Don't back your device up to the cloud.
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Or don’t use any electronic device, and live like a caveman.
 
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Shirasaki said:
Someone just beg Apple to control his/her as a whole. They will be more than happy to buy everything made by Apple. I would not be surprised if Apple eventually builds their own fab, own screen factory, own components factory, and eventually becomes the world’s only company to completely produce any electronic device without any external support.
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Not going to happen, for a variety of reasons.
 
dukeblue219 said:
Why do people want Apple to do everything in-house? They don't run their own fabs, they don't make displays, they don't build all their own datacenters. Why? Because those are commodity services that require massive investment and have short lifecycles. Apple is much better suited as a customer that can resell the value they create from those commodites at high margin.
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Because people are by and large sycophants who don't realize that a company's marketing versus how they do business are rarely aligned.

I bet people would be shocked to know Apple and Google have "collaboration labs" where their engineers work together to insure platform interoperability. Yet they keep up this public charade of being mortal enemies. Just like Apple and Microsoft of old, yet guess who Jobs went to first for investment when Apple was on the ropes?

Don't fall in love with objects, or the companies that produce them.

Also, know that MacRumors only posts non-stories like this because it insures a bunch of hits from people getting all worked up about things they don't understand. AdBlock, always. Don't be manipulated.
 
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nexu said:
I wonder if third parties have access to iCloud email, as it's not encrypted at rest from what I remember.
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That is correct. Apple mail/icloud mail is encrypted from transmission to reception but is stored in the open/without encryption.
 
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grantew1 said:
Reading > you.

Apple does not provide third-party cloud storage providers with the keys to decrypt user data stored on their servers, ensuring a strong level of security.
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Except for your email if you use icloud which is not stored encrypted. (It's transmitted and received encrypted but stored out in the open.)
 
SimonTheSoundMa said:
I like how people jump to the conclusions that google will take their private data. Google's ToS do like to use your data for free services, however once you pay, i.e. Google Workspace, everything is different. Google will have no access to any data that Apple are hosting.

Apple use third parties for data storage, you can even host it yourself if you want to be a part of Apple Edge Cache programme.
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Not necessarily, there may be firewalls and everything that can keep any track including third-party, but entering your data isn't always the best thing. And once they have it, they have it forever.
 
passatgt said:
Around 0,000625% of that is my data.
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Approximately 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000214% of that data is mine. Because if you do the math, 70% of the population is about a quarter of the world. Google is pretty popular. and I only have like, one search a day. Compared to everyone on MacRumors is about 0.049% of the percentage. So since a ton of people use Google, that's about how much I use in a week or two.
 
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