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Apple Reports $1.61 Billion Profit for Q1 2009

FF_productions said:
Agreed, but you can't say they've been lazy with the portables.

The desktops, inexcusable, the reason that the laptops are outselling the desktops is because what they are offering is horrific.
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Not necessarily so (their desktops are in sore need of a revamp). Laptops outsold desktops in 2008. It's not only an Apple trend.
 
Nice numbers. Particularly the y/y growth in the iPod segment which was supposed to wind down a bit as the iPhone would up.
 
One thing that struck me was the outlook for 2H 2009. Margins down to 30% for the second half. So between June and September we are going to see some nice new fancy hardware. I'm guessing that's when the iPad and Snow Leopard will be out.
 
2009?

Am I missing something or aren't we still in the first quarter of 2009. How is it possible to have figures for a quarter in progress?
 
avus said:
I never understand people like you. You have a stalker's mentality, you keep consuming on a celebrity products yet having a delusion why he/she can't personally satisfy you. Also, I wonder what kind of job you have that the current Mini can't handle, really.
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You never understand people like me because I'm what you call a Mac user who goes way back, been using a Mac in one form or another since the early 90s. I'm a print designer, involved in busy production schedules at times and use the Creative Suite in ways that would tie a Mini up. You clearly have no concept of what's involved... and yes, I make copious use of Firewire and would like to see an Apple Display that's not glossy. And yes, in my last position I was budget-holder and buyer for the studio.


avus said:
No, I am not pushing a product that you despise. Instead of pity and pain, I simply suggest you (and many of the posters on this board) going to PCs and Windows environment. I use them, they are not bad at all, and no matter how much the initial investment to switch is going to be, they can potentially save your soul.
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Please don't waste your time in trolling. This is all someone who has drunk the koolaid can offer. Let's get realistic, the current Macs are pitiful and their desktop strategy is sub-par for a company of their stature.

Interesting how all you can offer in this thread is personal comments about someone you don't know. Who's stalking who?
 
Doctor Q said:
In the Q&A, Apple said they will open 25 stores, half of them international. I guess that's 12 in the U.S., 12 in other countries, and one straddling the Canadian border.
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LOL

Do you need a passport to walk from one side of that store to the other?
 
Mr Maui said:
I suppose that shipping Snow Leopard in July will make Apple a complete failure in the mind of the original poster concerning the alleged delay.
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Snow Leopard is supposed to be the same as Leopard as far as user-visible features are concerned, but faster, safer, more stable. I think Apple is relatively free to choose exactly when Snow Leopard is going to be released. Earlier with less improvements, later with more improvements. They will choose whatever is the best moment in time for Apple.

It will be quite important how the economy goes. The best time to release Snow Leopard from a marketing point of view is when people get back to being optimistic and investing. A company like Apple with plenty of cash can afford to improve its products behind the scene and come out with new things at exactly the right time.
 
rdowns said:
I pretty much agree with your take on how Jobs runs Apple but I think Snow Leopard was a product pushed for by engineering. There are no whiz bang features for marketing to grab onto and sell. I can see the head of engineering going to Jobs and saying, 'Look, PPC is dead and our OS is bloated because of it. Let us strip out all the PPC code and really optimize this sucker. We'll be able to get by with fewer programmers after its done.'
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I can't see the head of engineering worrying about PowerPC at all. It's more like "we don't need a PowerPC version, but we'll keep the OS running on PowerPC forever. That way, we make sure that all code is portable and will run fine on whatever will be the next technology after Intel 32-bit and 64-bit processors".

What is much more important: At the moment, Cocoa is not fully functional; some things have to be done using Carbon, and therefore are not available on the iPhone OS. That has to be fixed. At that point it will be possible to use identical code for MacOS X and iPhone, and that is when Apple will suddenly have a Netbook. With all the iLife and iWork applications immediately available. That will be the killer Netbook.
 
/dev/toaster said:
With Apple making this ridiculous amount of money, maybe its time for them to reduce prices a bit. Apple is still fairly overpriced.
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.... Why? They have no desire to be the volume leader, they want to be the aspirationally priced premium product.

That's like saying that BMW is making tons of money, they should compete with Honda in the $15k-$25k range.
 
FF_productions said:
Yey for Apple making money?? Who cares? We are watching them get rich while not listening to our requests. Same company that says we need a MacBook Air, and that a uni-body laptop beats any laptop, no matter how they price it or equip it. Quit dipping in the kool aid.
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Can't we assume that the only people going "Yey" are those with AAPL stock?
 
gnasher729 said:
Snow Leopard is supposed to be the same as Leopard as far as user-visible features are concerned, but faster, safer, more stable. I think Apple is relatively free to choose exactly when Snow Leopard is going to be released. Earlier with less improvements, later with more improvements.
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Actually Snow Leopard is strongly a release for Apple and 3rd party developers. They have set (IMHO) ambitious goals to provide several new APIs and sub-systems laying the foundation for then next several years. Finishing those features put a limit on how soon they can ship. Yes they can drop some but many are interdependent.

I sure hope they take as long as they want to fully back things. The don't really need the revenue stream from another OS release at this time (assuming they even charge for it).
 
displaced said:
Mainstream desktops, I can understand. But where are the workstations? The no-holds-barred, "You want power? Here's your freakin' power!" machine. The one that makes processing that used to be hours and turns it to minutes.

I must admit, I'm not au fait with Intel's product line at the moment. Are we just in a bit of a microarchitectural interregnum, or are Apple genuinely tardy in their updates?
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It's because there is nothing to upgrade to.
 
I'm glad aapl is going strong, but those margins are paid for by the fact that they're essentially selling much cheaper outdated hardware, which does annoy me

Can't have it all I guess
 
gnasher729 said:
I can't see the head of engineering worrying about PowerPC at all. It's more like "we don't need a PowerPC version, but we'll keep the OS running on PowerPC forever. That way, we make sure that all code is portable and will run fine on whatever will be the next technology after Intel 32-bit and 64-bit processors".
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What? It takes extra work to introduce new features (even if they don't call them features) and make them work on PowerPC and Intel.

It's easy for Apple to have limited hardware for OS X to support. Getting rid of PowerPC support will make it even easier.
 
gnasher729 said:
What is much more important: At the moment, Cocoa is not fully functional; some things have to be done using Carbon, and therefore are not available on the iPhone OS. That has to be fixed. At that point it will be possible to use identical code for MacOS X and iPhone, and that is when Apple will suddenly have a Netbook. With all the iLife and iWork applications immediately available. That will be the killer Netbook.
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That's not the purpose of the netbook

And you're very wrong about the PowerPC part
 
akm3 said:
.... Why? They have no desire to be the volume leader, they want to be the aspirationally priced premium product.

That's like saying that BMW is making tons of money, they should compete with Honda in the $15k-$25k range.
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I'm sorry, but there's no way the current Mac desktops are like BMWs, even though BMW also make the Mini. ;)

I don't mind a so-called premium product and its associated cost. But please tell me how the current desktops are premium products.
 
gnasher729 said:
Snow Leopard is supposed to be the same as Leopard as far as user-visible features are concerned, but faster, safer, more stable. I think Apple is relatively free to choose exactly when Snow Leopard is going to be released. Earlier with less improvements, later with more improvements. They will choose whatever is the best moment in time for Apple.

It will be quite important how the economy goes. The best time to release Snow Leopard from a marketing point of view is when people get back to being optimistic and investing. A company like Apple with plenty of cash can afford to improve its products behind the scene and come out with new things at exactly the right time.
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Well if there was every going to be one defining moment where it all turned it was yesterday, it maybe slow on the uptake but confidence is turning, people are in the mood to believe that they can be confident again someday....

I so if Apple want to capture that now or next tuesday is the time to start trickling their imaginations. iMac's the flagship of Desktops would be a nice start, it's the iconic Apple Product.
 
Tallest Skil said:
No, the chips for the Mac Pro AREN'T out already.
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Right, I don't know why I was thinking about desktops and not workstation chipsets

Peace said:
Well they cost a lot. Isn't that a "premium" ? :p
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I'm glad that Apple can pull it off, and that's why BMW and Porsche are so profitable as well, but marketing and perception are much bigger forces than the actual products these days, especially in cars
 
Blue Velvet said:
Some of us need a little more than a pokey little glossy screen to do their work on, are heavily invested in a Mac-based workflow and would perhaps like to spend money with the company but not on outdated machines and displays. That's all.

Right now, I'm just disappointed. If I was in the buying position I was in in my last position, looking to equip the studio, I'd be furious with the foot-dragging.
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Couldn't agree more. And, in the UK, I reckon they'll pay particularly hard for the footdragging. Not only is there a slowdown, but given Sterling's slide against the dollar, when the revisions are made there will be quite large price increases for us UK buyers, I'll wager. Earlier updates may have opened the purse strings. The deeper the dip, the more likely the premium will matter.

Suppose the only upside is that we haven't had as many 'it's way more expensive in the UK' posts of late, as we're actually doing better in pricing terms than our American counterparts just now. Even with VAT ;)
 
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