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I'm pleased for you that Apple builds a product for you, your wife and your friends, please consider extending that same courtesy to others. Some of us need a little more than a pokey little glossy screen to do their work on, are heavily invested in a Mac-based workflow and would perhaps like to spend money with the company but not on outdated machines and displays. That's all.

Right now, I'm just disappointed. If I was in the buying position I was in in my last position, looking to equip the studio, I'd be furious with the foot-dragging.

So, to all those investors out there, sure these results might look great but they could be even better. ;)

I could not agree more. I myself would like to buy some Mac desktops for work ASAP. Problem is, I had 3 lemons with my for iMacs (google vertical line if you like). All started their measily behaviour after 1.5 years.

Therefore I will go with cheap desktops accompanied with displays. An updated mini would be perfect for my needs (as Mac Pro are overkill) - guess, waht I'm waiting for.

And to be as anecdotal - I guess many people would like to pull the trigger on a new mini, but could one care to explain, why the heck you should toss over that insane amount of money for the current mini.

I know, the xMac will never happen. I don't need a Mac Pro and I will never ever buy a All-in-one again. Screw that vertical lines - get a new display, if they come :D
 
His ideas have a lot to do with it.

Huh, no he doesn't.

I think you might mixing him up with Bill Gates who is an actual developer.

People present ideas to Jobs, he listens to them and then challenges his staff on them.

He's kind of like a cake taster. Doesn't make the cake, but knows what he likes.
 
These are great number but - "25% decline in desktops" - ouch! ouch! OUCH!
:eek:

Steve said in one of the last one of these teleconferences that "Apple chooses not to serve some segments of the market" That would be the mainstream desktop market. And I can see why Apple ignores the largest segment of the computer market: It is very price competitive and has low margins. I don't think Apple will ever make the mainstream desktop that most of us want. There is no room for margins in such a competitive segment of the market.
 
Huh, no he doesn't.

I think you might mixing him up with Bill Gates who is an actual developer.

People present ideas to Jobs, he listens to them and then challenges his staff on them.

He's kind of like a cake taster. Doesn't make the cake, but knows what he likes.

You just used 50 words to say what I said in three. But it's all good.
 
These are great number but - "25% decline in desktops" - ouch! ouch! OUCH!
:eek:

They need to give the Aluminium iMac back it's edge. The unibody laptops just make it seem old-fashioned, low-tech and boring.

Those unibody laptops are ludicrously great...They feel like a rolex watch...

Let's hope they stay out of netbooks - crappy low end sub-laptop junk. A Ipod Touch 7 - I can go with and I'd even buy one just to sit it on the table by the couch, but not a crappy netbook even an Apple one.
 
It was on the slides of their Director of Engineering of Unix Technologies.

Link.

It was hardly a rumour.
Yeah I am well aware of that. It was a slide taken out of context, it was never a correct time frame for Snow Leopard.
 
Thanks. I know laptops are popular but by an almost 3-1 margin? Pitiful, and shows the paucity of the current desktop range in offering value and choice.
I think laptops are 71% of their sales now, so a bit more than 3 to 1. :(

As a MacPro user with no use for laptops though, I do commiserate with your point of view.

I find it interesting that Apple is kind of lagging even with basic desktop accessories. There are no iSight cameras, and only the standard mouse and keyboard that haven't been updated for a long time now. The bluetooth keyboard is nice, but with all the multi-touch goodness going around I would have thought they would have made a desktop multi-touch pad a year ago already.

Conversely, even though it's "all about the iPhone" now, the iPhone hardware refreshes and software updates seem to be slow also. iPhone sales are already tailing off.

I would have expected Apple to hit the market hard with expanded model offerings and new hardware but instead they have done nothing. Software-wise on the iPhone they are about 6 months behind where they promised they would be let alone where they hoped to be.

IMO Apple is over-extended, slow and making too many mistakes right now but this is masked by the intense popularity (and thus mega-sales) of the products they *do* manage to get out the door.
 
Steve said in one of the last one of these teleconferences that "Apple chooses not to serve some segments of the market" That would be the mainstream desktop market. And I can see why Apple ignores the largest segment of the computer market: It is very price competitive and has low margins. I don't think Apple will ever make the mainstream desktop that most of us want. There is no room for margins in such a competitive segment of the market.

Mainstream desktops, I can understand. But where are the workstations? The no-holds-barred, "You want power? Here's your freakin' power!" machine. The one that makes processing that used to be hours and turns it to minutes.

I must admit, I'm not au fait with Intel's product line at the moment. Are we just in a bit of a microarchitectural interregnum, or are Apple genuinely tardy in their updates?
 
I think apple should get into military applications and get some of those defense contracts from the government.
They can increase their profit by 5 fold!!!

Check this baby out. iPhone App Helps Snipers Hit Targets
That's what I'm talking!!!
Whats next?
iPhone App for remote bomb triggering.
iPhone App to guide missiles to their target.
iPhone App to guide rockets into space.
iPhone App to kill satellites.
iPhone App to help night vision detection.
iPhone App to detect enemy locations.
iPhone App to guide Predator UAV to its target.

The military applications is ENDLESS.
 

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I just don't understand Apple's refusal to build them.


Steve Jobs and his precious iMac as flagship. Always has wanted the sealed box, computer as appliance, just like a washing machine, never understood the need for anything else and inflicts this vision on the rest of us. Can't build anything too close to it or sales of these wretched machines will suffer, so cripple potentially competing products like the Mini or overprice them at the other end of the scale and let them wither on the vine.
 
It was on the slides of their Director of Engineering of Unix Technologies.

Link.

It was hardly a rumour.



If he had good/medium news it then why would he have been cagey about timeframes. On schedule would be sufficient — especially as we don't know what the schedule is.

If Snow Leopard is just round the corner, then why are they starting selling a box set at the end of this month with Leopard on?

We do know the schedule for Snow Leopard, they told us at WWDC last year. It'll be ready around June of this year. If nothing has changed, why would they bother telling us something they've already told us?

jW
 
From the conference call, regarding possible future competitors for the iPhone:

We are not going to have our IP ripped off. I don't think I can be any clearer than that.

I think it might be dangerous to sell any phone that relies on anything that Apple has patented.
 
If Woz were CEO, Apple wouldn't exist today. He's a geek, not a marketer or visionary.


Yes it would. He's also a visionary educator and extremely personable. But you knew that, didn't you. Why did you omit that aspect of his abilities ? Obviously to make a point about his inability to lead a company. Ok.
 
Makes sense. Apple sells conventional notebooks but only "speciality" desktops. They have no mainstream desktop product.
You are just using artificial terms to separate the two. Most consumers actually buy "computers" and if the store clerk asked them if they want the "mainstream" or the "specialty" variety, they would have no idea what to say.
 
Yes it would. He's also a visionary educator and extremely personable. But you knew that, didn't you. Why did you omit that aspect of his abilities ? Obviously to make a point about his inability to lead a company. Ok.


Because a 'visionary educator and extremely personable' do not make a CEO. We were talking about him being CEO, not the things that are not related to what a CEO does.
 
Alot of people on here are "excited" about Snow Leopard as well, but as said, being "excited" is very generic and open term that does not indicate anything.

so because they didnt give a release date it is slipping? If one of them would have stated that snow leopard is "coming along great" or something similar then tomorrow the onl news would be that snow leopard is going to be released soon which would lead to people holding off on buying for the new software release. So my friend, this is why they had no comment other than they are excited.
 
Actually, 75% would make it 3 to 1, so 71% is a bit less than 3 to 1 (remember, to have a 3 to 1 ratio, that 4 total equal parts).
Yikes! me not do math well.

Well lets divert attention from my mistake by lashing out at Blue Velvet for saying "3-1" when it's not. (slinks away)

:)
 
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