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No reason for most Samsung users to upgrade from the S8 to the S9.

Still both are waterproof and have a headphone jack. Have face, fingerprint, and iris unlock. Wireless charging, and have a standard USB-C port for connectivity.

Maybe some of those things just aren't as important as some people think they are.
 
Over $1B/week profit on nearly $5B/week revenue, and people were predicting demise. Strange world.

This thread is filled with people who have absolutely no clue how to run a business or how to succeed in life. They're commenting on things they know nothing about and showing a complete lack of experience or knowledge in this area. It's pretty sad but it's MacRumors as usual.

Profits continue to rise?! That must mean the end of Apple for good!!!
 
How Sad, Macs, the backbone of this company, with less revenue than "Services", nobody wants to buy the outdated hardware...

Yet they sell most of the other pc manufactures
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Apple "services" is basically money out of nothing. Like those "free" games that you download, and after hours, you buy the in game 30.000 crystals pack for 99.95$.

Much harder to sell a decent set of CPU, GPU,RAM,HDD in a box, much harder gain profit from actual things than fantasy products, which have production costs of zero and 100% win margin...

So why you don't start to make money out of nothing? O I guess you have to sell a bunch of CPU, RAM, GPU, HDD first...
 
I hope Apple does not turn into the "frog in the well".

COOL ...I just had to look that up

"Once upon a time there was a frog who lived at the bottom of a well. The well was the frog’s whole world, until the day the well ran dry and the bugs began to disappear. What was happening to the world, the frog wondered, and what could he do? The hungry frog decided he must hop to the top of the well to see what he could of the end of the world. Conquering his fear, he peered out, and what did he see? Trees, flowers, meadows, marshes, and all kinds of end-of-the-world creatures! Entranced, the little frog ventured forth to find out more about the world outside his own. Based on a classic Chinese fable ..."
 
This Company always amazes me. They continue to excel in areas others were claiming they would fail, Tim Cook is doing great things with Apple internally and bring this company to record profits, and their product revenue and services are growing exponentially. Happy to be a supporter of this company and there is a reason they succeed, being the wealthiest company in the world.
 
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Should've colored the iPhone sales in the pie chat yellow. The Apple Pacman is gobbling up all of Apple's other divisions.

Yet another report that shows clearly why innovation and offerings in their desktop line-up is LOW priority and continuously frustrating for the few desktop end-users left.

That does not make sense. Apple is selling far more Macs per quarter now than they did at any time in the 1980s, 1990s or 2000s. They dropped "computer" from Apple Inc before Steve Jobs died.
 
"Customers chose iPhone X more than any other iPhone each week in the March quarter, just as they did following its launch in the December quarter."
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Nothing artificial about real value.

They made $13.8B in profit, the most ever in Q2 for AAPL. Not good enough for you?

No clue who you imagine you're arguing with. I was talking about EPS. Maybe learn a thing about financials.
 
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Apple still sells the iPhone 8 and 8 +, 7 and 7+, 6s and 6s+ and the SE in addition to the X.

8 iphone product lines.

So the math that says X is chosen more often than any other iphone each week might mean as few as 14% of Iphone customers choose the X.

With the avg selling price down from the xmas quarter then one has to make the assumption that less iPHone X's were sold relative to other iphones in the March Quarter than compared to the xmas quarter.

You really think the same number of people are buying the latest iPhones as the older ones?

At which point do you all just eat humble pie and admit that you were wrong about Apple all along?
 
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CNN/fake news headliner.... "Apple announces slow iPhone sales, but $100 billion for investors"
God how I hate news today, can't tell whats **** from the truth.
Clickbait of course, but listing only for reference

http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/01/technology/apple-earnings-iphone-sales/index.html
CNBC was the worst. If you didn’t know the numbers you’d think Apple had the most awful quarter ever. The hate for Apple is strong and even stronger when they perform better than then the lead-up rumors suggest.
 
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No clue who you imagine you're arguing with. I was talking about EPS. Maybe learn a thing about financials before you shoot your mouth off next time?
I'm boiling EPS down to actual profit, so you wouldn't say it's just financial engineering. The ACTUAL profit is a record, ever in Q2. Buybacks have nothing to do with total profit. EPS rises when shares are reduced, but you can't raise the actual profit by reducing shares. What year did you graduate form Wharton, because I did in 2006.
 
From Apr 2, 2018 ...

New educational push may not have a full chance to be factored in. Dividend increase would be sweet mayb stave off the short callers.

From Apr 3, 2018 ...

Raise dividends by 15-20% and I'll be happy. The rest is a wash.
Don’t hold your breath.

definitely a happy investor and end user.

Dividends increased by 16%
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...re-buyback-plan-by-100-billion-lifts-dividend
 
“Tim Cook on iPhone pricing strategy: We price for the value we're delivering. iPhone X is most innovative product on the market. Jam packed with technologies on the market. Really sets up the smartphone for the next decade. So that's how we priced it. We were surprised somewhat that through all of this period of time, that the iPhone X lines up at the most-popular for every week since the time of its launch, so I think that's a popular point. And it's #1 in China. Another powerful point. Obviously at some point if those technologies move to lower price points, there is probably more unit demand. But the way we think of it is trying to have a reasonable price for what we've delivering.”

As I said, don’t expect the iPhone 11 to be any cheaper, the plus model more expensive. You need to read between the lines.
And let’s remeber the X starts with 64GB storage too.
I think the 11 Plus will start at 1200 for 64GB.
 
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Im gonna play a little game where I pretend that all this money is mine and I take great satisfaction and credit for earning such large amounts.. so i can then sneer at all the naysayers....
 
Well, the above are no less true, but clearly Cook having turned Apple overly miserly, greedy, self-serving and derivative has not put a dent on their brand popularity and profits.

Good products? Sure. Great products? I'm not expecting any such thing to come out of Cupertino again. Without competition, peer pressure or wallet-voting, they got their cake and get to eat it too. Why bother innovating or keeping all of their products up to date if people buy them for top dollar anyway?

Why are you wasting your life on this website then? Seems like a huge waste of your short time on this earth to spend it on a company who you don't see doing anything great ever again. If that's honestly how you feel, I'd move on and find somewhere better to invest your time.

Do you really want to look back on your life when asked and be like "I spent a lot of time on a website for a company I didn't think very highly of and didn't think would ever do anything great."
 
That’s success is rather amazing

Time for people to stop believing all the stupid analysts with their reporting.
 
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iPhone ASP was $728. I think I read half the iPhone X buyers pony up the additional $150 to go from 64GB to 256GB storage so it is extremely likely that the iPhone X accounted for less than 20% of the mix for the quarter. It doesn't take a whole lot of $999 or $1,149 phones to drive ASP up.

Even if half of iPhone X buyers have bought the larger storage model, it's hard to make the ASP number work with iPhone X only accounting for 20% of iPhone units. We'd have to, among other things, believe that Apple sells very few low price models (e.g. the iPhone SE) in emerging markets. And if it's true that Apple sells very few low price models, then the even distribution model (which trip1ex described) which gets us down to 14% for iPhone X share wouldn't work. (And, of course, 20% is more than 14%.)

When we refer to ASPs, we aren't talking about average retail price. We're referring to the average that Apple gets, with certain adjustments (e.g. deferrals for future software updates and from prior sales). Those numbers are also affected by, e.g., channel builds and draw downs. We saw the latter this past quarter, and most likely the iPhone X accounted for a disproportionate share of that.
 
Even if half of iPhone X buyers have bought the larger storage model, it's hard to make the ASP number work with iPhone X only accounting for 20% of iPhone units. We'd have to, among other things, believe that Apple sells very few low price models (e.g. the iPhone SE) in emerging markets. And if it's true that Apple sells very few low price models, then the even distribution model (which trip1ex described) which gets us down to 14% for iPhone X share wouldn't work. (And, of course, 20% is more than 14%.)

When we refer to ASPs, we aren't talking about average retail price. We're referring to the average that Apple gets, with certain adjustments (e.g. deferrals for future software updates and from prior sales). Those numbers are also affected by, e.g., channel builds and draw downs. We saw the latter this past quarter, and most likely the iPhone X accounted for a disproportionate share of that.

So your saying the claims by Cook don’t add up? Please explain your conclusion further.
 
It's hilarious to see how many people have now turned to, "Despite the fact that it'd likely mean losing his job and time in jail, I don't believe the things Cook has said because they don't match with my poor opining of Apple and how they must be performing in my own mind. When the data doesn't agree with my viewpoints, I'll simply dismiss the numbers."
 
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