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It's like when an Olympic athlete wins a gold medal, but doesn't beat their own best time


Not a great analogy. In the case of sales, the amount of growth can be an indicator for future quarters. When the increases get smaller that can mean that growth tops out and then starts dropping. Sports analogy doesn't fit with that part.
 
Let's see the guidance for the next quarter. THAT is what everyone is waiting for (beware there may be a SELLOFF). Also, how did Apple increase Revenue and Profits if iPad and Mac sales were down, and iPhone sales were flat? Is Apple Watch doing better than expected?

iPhone revenue was up about half a billion dollars, services revenue was up about one and a quarter billion dollars, and Apple TV/Apple Watch/Beats/iPod/Etc revenue was up more than one and a half billion dollars. That's how revenue grew YoY.

Non-operating income was also up a couple hundred million dollars, and income tax provisions were down about as much. That's how net income grew YoY even though operating income was actually down a little (due to increased operating expenses).
 
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Wow, Apple TV and Apple Watch must have done well. That "Other" category is like, actually visible now.
 
So the media writes shocking headlines to get people to read the article... thinking that their readers love bad news about Apple.

But the readers read the article and find that Apple had another monster record-breaking quarter.

At what point do the readers get fed up with this media nonsense?
I think a lot of times people don't necessarily read the article. There are probably a lot of people who just see the headline and go "oh man Apple is having bad iPhone sales" skim on to the next headline.
 
So,,, please tell me why the Base Model on all iPhones should start at 32gb? Why would they do that? That would be Business Suicide. Cost them a quarter to higher the Storage from 16gb to 64gb,,, costs you 100 dollars. They increase base storage,,, NOBODY buys anything else... Don't like it,,, tell the 75 Million people to stop making the 16gb base model the NUMBER 1 purchase,,,,,, not even close and tell them to buy something else,, force the hand of Apple,,,, Until then,,, 16gb will always be base and if you want more,,, open your wallet
I don't get the argument either. People should just buy what they can afford/need. It's like me complaining because I can't buy a Ferrari.
 
Great results given the worry over lack of sales recently

The pro was never going to completely save the iPad sales
 
Take iPhone out of the equation and apple isn't apple and only making 32% of what they're currently doing. I'm afraid to invest in apple since one product is 68% of their business.

Apple revenue minus iPhone would be roughly $24B. Microsoft's revenue for Q4 2015 was $22.2B. Google's was $18.1B for Q4 2014. These aren't all like-for-like in terms of timing, but it gives you a rough idea.

Apple makes 5 hardware products that have earned the right to sit atop it's website. It regularly updates all of them.

I think it's unfair to call it a "one trick pony" because of one them (the iPhone) is doing insanely well, relative to the others. If iPhone was plodding along the same as the others, you'd still have a very financially successful company. Would you feel better about the company because revenue was more evenly distributed?

But it's a good thing the iPhone has done so well - it means they can invest in more technology that makes its way into all of their products.
 
Smallest improvement over previous quarters. A new high is great, but when it's such a small increase people wonder if the next quarter will be a drop. Numbers like that look like they're reaching a plateau.

Only in some alternate reality. Look at the chart at the top of this thread. If you look at the trend from '12 to '13 to '14, you see steady growth each year, but not a fantasy-land line approaching the vertical. Then there's a huge jump in '15, followed by a more moderate increase with the latest report. Finding something negative in this is all about not meeting "market expectations," which are fantasy predictions based on hookah smoke and hokum. It's all just nonsense generated by the 'financial news' entertainment industry.
 
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Phone market is saturated along with iPads. Slow going in the future until new innovation and not bells and whistles.
The phone market may be becoming saturated... but not everyone has an Apple iPhone yet.

1.4 billion smartphones were sold last year... but only 230 million of them were iPhones.

So Apple still has plenty of room to grow in the phone market.
 
iPhone revenue was up about half a billion dollars, services revenue was up about one and a quarter billion dollars, and Apple TV/Apple Watch/Beats/iPod/Etc revenue was up more than one and a half billion dollars. That's how revenue grew YoY.

Non-operating income was also up a couple hundred million dollars, and income tax provisions were down about as much. That's how net income grew YoY even though operating income was actually down a little (due to increased operating expenses).

Thanks!
 
I hope people remember this next time they bitch because Apple raises the prices in the UK, Canada, etc. because of currency fluctuations.

That's a lot of money to explain to your shareholders.

I don't buy the currency thing. Apples whole supply chain is in US$ making all of their components cheaper to source.
 
So the media writes shocking headlines to get people to read the article... thinking that their readers love bad news about Apple.

But the readers read the article and find that Apple had another monster record-breaking quarter.

At what point do the readers get fed up with this media nonsense?

Most readers don't get past the headline. I guarantee that tomorrow at work (Tech company) there will be more than a couple of Android users telling me that iPhone sales are collapsing.
 
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If you remove iPhone, how does the revenue / profit compare to other big tech companies like Google or Microsoft?

It's unfair to call Apple a one trick pony. They're working on a variety of products and seem keen to innovate across the board - just because one of their products is so wildly successful to dwarf the others in a relative sense, doesn't mean the others are small on an absolute scale.

Well if you remove 68% of revenue from its earnings I guess you'll have your answer. When nearly TWO THIRDS of your entire companies earnings come FROM ONE PRODUCT it's a one trick pony. Why else do you think big investors are worried about Apples situation?
 
Well if you remove 68% of revenue from its earnings I guess you'll have your answer. When nearly TWO THIRDS of your entire companies earnings come FROM ONE PRODUCT it's a one trick pony. Why else do you think big investors are worried about Apples situation?

Because they're greedy? Without iPhone, Apple's revenue is equivalent to that of Google and Microsoft - and Apple have a higher profit margin. So, would that make analysts feel better? No iPhone (or a much less successful iPhone) so that profits are divided nice and evenly?
 
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Well if you remove 68% of revenue from its earnings I guess you'll have your answer. When nearly TWO THIRDS of your entire companies earnings come FROM ONE PRODUCT it's a one trick pony. Why else do you think big investors are worried about Apples situation?

Put another way... if you just set aside the profits in this report, the company is really in bad shape!
 
Because they're greedy? Without iPhone, Apple's revenue is equivalent to that of Google and Microsoft - and Apple have a higher profit margin. So, would that make analysts feel better? No iPhone (or a much less successful iPhone) so that profits are divided nice and evenly?

Changed your argument now then? You asked how are they a one trick pony, I told you, and now your going on about analysts being happy?
Last time I looked analysts weren't major share holders?
 
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