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I'm expecting a longish Download Wednesday... during which time I plan to pretend I'm standing in line.

Boom

Not fair - you fixed the "Dow pad" auto-correct (or "auto-corrupt") error on us. I was trying to figure that one out....


Happy for all of us, less burden on MAS server, less waiting for us to upgrade, and more Lion would get to customer soon.

If you worry about loads on the server, doesn't that imply that the infrastructure is not ready for the task?

Or, are you worried that it might slow your FullHD 1080p 45 Mbps BD-quality downloads from the Itunes video store? ;)
 
If the 8:30am rumor is true, I'll have start the download from work via LogMeIn and hope it's finished by the time I get home. :confused:
 
Not really, since OpenGL 4.1 has been out for Windows for a year.

Despite the version number, the implementation of OpenGL for Windows isn't that good.

The biggest problem for OpenGL is Microsoft - but Microsoft aren't doing a good job of promoting DirectX either.

Although the OpenGL library is included with all versions of Windows it generally runs without hardware acceleration unless the user is smart enough to know how to install OpenGL device drivers for their graphics hardware. As a result OpenGL generally reverts to either version 1.1. or 1.4. Under Vista and Windows 7 OpenGL runs under a DirectX wrapper which provides some hardware acceleration but it is still slower than the native hardware acceleration provided by an OpenGL driver.

When if comes to the adoption of the OpenGL based WebGL all the major browser developers are backing it - with the exception of Microsoft.

http://www.i-programmer.info/news/90-tools/1104-opengl-41.html
 
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Aiden - Lol, guilty of auto- corruption correction
 
Yeah, I am awaiting the general comments of "Lion is the worst OS ever! Why did Apple remove the ____ feature? <Insert additional snarky comment about being able to write better software despite not being an engineer.> Lion is clear proof Apple only cares about the iPhones. These hipster kids and their iOS devices. When I was a nerd back in the 80's, Apple was a rebel company who cared about their users. Now they sold out and are like Microsoft."

Best post EVER!!!
 
Will wait to get a new iMac by end of August and hopefully most of the bugs will be fixed for OS X Lion in this couple of weeks of its release. Like most new OS there will be some bugs but I will wait patiently.;)
 
This is major hypocrisy!!!:mad::mad: Why don't they try their own servers and see how the whole on-line upgrade process goes without the fanboy distortion field??

Actually the physical has far more than just Lion, but a whole host of information that ranges in the hundreds of GBs. If they are to refresh 40-50 computers, it makes sense to copy a drive and update an entire store, along with the iPads that displays the information. This process works well as I have been apart of the refresh of several retail stores when I worked there.
 
That's exactly what I'm implying. It seems that certain hardware has this issue. For me, the problem did not appear on a 2009 MacMini. However, on a 2009 MB Pro 17" it did, even with a clean install of the Lion GM. I had to revert back to Snow Leopard.

Hm, thats weird. Hopefully it is fixed.
 
So you're suggesting Apple release it on hard drive? Yeah, that makes sense.

No, I am suggesting that no physical media is not a good idea and they prove it by distributing it to their own stores via physical media. I never asked for a hard drive.
 
I hope Apple doesn't delay the launch for brazilians because of our awesome government, forcing us, early adopters to purchase using one USA Account and paying 4x the price because it is one international purchase. :(
 
What am I missing . . . . ?

I have been using Lion for many weeks now. There are some really great new features. But I do feel the GUI is watered down. Apps like finder and Mail have been decolorized like iTunes. It is much harder to tell what parts of dialiog boxes and controls are active. The open/close/maximize/minimize buttons have been shrunk and deemphasized. A big deal? No, but I think they are a step back in usability and too me the appearance is very unexciting.

I keep reading that all the app icons have been de-colorized, yet every icon I see in the videos and other Lion-related images on Apple's site are full-color. What am I missing? :confused: (newbie here)

Thanks in advance.
 
old news, move along, these are not the droids you're looking for

Despite the version number, the implementation of OpenGL for Windows isn't that good.

The biggest problem for OpenGL is Microsoft - but Microsoft aren't doing a good job of promoting DirectX either.

Although the OpenGL library is included with all versions of Windows it generally runs without hardware acceleration unless the user is smart enough to know how to install OpenGL device drivers for their graphics hardware. As a result OpenGL generally reverts to either version 1.1. or 1.4. Under Vista and Windows 7 OpenGL runs under a DirectX wrapper which provides some hardware acceleration but it is still slower than the native hardware acceleration provided by an OpenGL driver.

When if comes to the adoption of the OpenGL based WebGL all the major browser developers are backing it - with the exception of Microsoft.

http://www.i-programmer.info/news/90-tools/1104-opengl-41.html

I cannot believe that you're trying to claim that this is an issue.

Since forever, Microsoft does not ship (and has not shipped) 3D accelerated drivers with their OS kits. They ship somewhat generic 2D hardware drivers, and a limited software implementation of OpenGL.

Once you've installed Windows, you run automatic update and it downloads WHQL drivers from the GPU vendor that provide the latest hardware accelerated OpenGL version (and disable the software OpenGL emulation). If you want beta or non-WHQL drivers you go to NVIDIA or ATI to download the drivers.

It's totally a non-issue - it's an automatic part of enabling software updates after an installation.
 
Ugh

iHypocrisy. Physical media's still the best solution for some people is it Apple? :rolleyes:

Edit: Negative voted post within a couple of minutes, not surprised. How about quoting and debating the issue instead people?

Know what's worse than people who vote down for no reason? People who care enough about the thumbs down that they have to edit their original post. Accept the criticism, whether or not you think its justified.

Nonetheless, this is the exact reason why TED changed their rating system. It was becoming exactly like Youtube; people were more concerned about avoiding a thumbs down than actually contributing anything to the comments section. Just click on a couple popular Youtube videos and see if one of the top rated comments is, "(# of thumbs down on video) people must have not (witty comment about something in video or video title)". Utter nonsense.
 
No doubt the images are custom - but the point is that if the network is robust enough for millions of customers to download 10.7, why is it too weak for a couple of hundred Apple stores to download images?
Oh, I'm sure the network is fine.

It's probably easier cloning a bunch of drives and shipping them from a marketing staging area along with other materials (e.g., signage, training materials, Lion t-shirts for staff) than having the local Geniuses at each retail location provision a drive from inventory and copying the downloaded image. There's probably a clean copy of the retail version of Lion on the drive, too.

After all, the Geniuses would need an external drive with various images anyhow to service their in-house systems as well as those of customers.

Apple probably has the store image available online anyhow, just in case the shipped hard drive fails, etc.

It's also possible that the shipped drives are OEM parts in inexpensive enclosures purchased in bulk, rather than a retail box version. After all, such a drive would not be really used in a customer facing situation, you can use a cheapo drive enclosure that gets the job done without looking all that purty.

Just grab a few cases of drives, a pallet of drive enclosures, a cloning station and tell the intern to get to work.
 
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iHypocrisy. Physical media's still the best solution for some people is it Apple? :rolleyes:

Edit: Negative voted post within a couple of minutes, not surprised. How about quoting and debating the issue instead people?

OK.It's more secure this way.
 
Actually the physical has far more than just Lion, but a whole host of information that ranges in the hundreds of GBs. If they are to refresh 40-50 computers, it makes sense to copy a drive and update an entire store, along with the iPads that displays the information. This process works well as I have been apart of the refresh of several retail stores when I worked there.

If Apple expects millions of customers to download a 4 GB kit, the traffic from a couple of hundred Apple stores downloading a 400 GB kit is noise. And it wouldn't need to be 400 GB, since almost all of the OSX files would be duplicated across all of the specific images, and SIS ("single instance store") would eliminate the need to download files more than once.

But more to the point, why not have each store download an image of the drive (or the images on the drive), rather than having a cute guy in a brown uniform deliver a hard drive to the store?


How did you ever get to be a demi-god? :rolleyes:

I bought it.
 
Already ran into a few last minute bugs regarding Active Directory Binding. I hope this isn't a bad re-run of Snow Leopard/Leopard.





This is correct. They send LaCie drives full of preconfigured OS's for each model that is currently on the floor. They also had a special image for the family room which had the concierge buttons and other assorted store applications. At least this was how it was when I was with Apple a few years ago.

Thank you!I knew there was a logical reason.

As usual others opened their (figurative)mouths and condemned Apple,when in fact they have no idea what they are talking about.All the while telling others they are stupid.Gotta love Macrumors!
 
Apple probably has the store image available online anyhow, just in case the shipped hard drive fails, etc.

So, Apple is admitting that the Icloud is a failure - otherwise they would have had each store download an image into a new directory for 10.7.

There's a basic contradiction between 1 and 2:
  1. Our millions of customers need to each download a multi-GB 10.7 install image
  2. We will put 10.7 install images on a hard drive and FedEx them to our retail stores
 
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