Exactly--is there any substantiation for any of this? Names? Places identified? This isn't journalism.
Whatever happened to who, what, where, when, and why?
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Apple Retail Stores Seeing Significant Layoffs of Recent Hires?
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Exactly--is there any substantiation for any of this? Names? Places identified? This isn't journalism.
Whatever happened to who, what, where, when, and why?
Once again you haven't make any point and you come across as a hypocrite. You've accused me now of being black and white in my thinking, when you've suggested earlier that companies should be reactionary and act as soon as something is found. That's a black and white approach to anything.
I'm suggesting that thought and time and doubt should be exercised and that you haven't a clue what the reasons for the firings were. Haha it obviously wasn't a senior executive role you say. Again, you're making unverified claims that don't have anything to do with the point we're discussing. Good luck with your reactionary act right away approach to life, the adults will consider and think instead, big shot.
Quite a statement for a rumors web site
If they don't have a source, they just made it up. I haven't heard about a decrease in the demand for Apple products or about some innovations in the store purchase process that would warrant a cutting of the staff? If I make it up myself it's not a rumor. So far this is just click bait on a slow apple news day.
The point of a business is not to keep entry-level employees employed as long as there is money in the bank. If the current number of employees exceeds the necessary capacity, it's only logical to lay off some to increase operational efficiencies.
Welcome to the world of retail, folks.
Welcome to the world of retail, folks.
My business is very profitable. I do quite well for myself.
I couldn't look at myself in the mirror if i was making $52million and then putting people in the soup kitchen when my company is making money hand over fist.
For the person that said I failed economics, quite the opposite. No need to attack personally but, whatever.
I like helping my fellow man, not putting them out on the street. Call it socialism if you like, it is what it is.
Laying that many people off at once is the world of retail when you are working at a really failing company.
Otherwise usually they just stop hiring or don't give as many hours. Retail has a very high turnover rate. If you need to lose some people usually you can just stop hiring and that will do the trick. Hell, my job has definitely been hit by economy and they've only ever even resorted to a hiring freeze once (about a year or so ago and it's been lifted already). Laying a ton of people off like that is usually a move of desperation honestly that you hear about when a company is very close to going under and is trying anything to not. Hell, I don't remember that Borders did a major laying off before they started just closing stores. Nor did I hear of Best Buy doing a major laying off of people before they instead decided to close 50 stores (yes, both did end up with job loss but point is they got to the point of just closing the stores before they even got to just doing mass layoffs).
Which seems odd for Apple cause last I checked they aren't close to going out of business.
So either they know something we don't, or this new guy is trying to make himself look good by doing a short sighted move to jump the profits. Or alternatively this is a false story (have they posted yet sources?).
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Exactly. This looks really bad. Even if you don't care about the job loss, a move like this would make it look like Apple knows something the investors don't and is very not confident about something. Which is why it's a move most places don't do unless they are desperate. Much easier and quieter to just not hire people and let turnover take care of reducing your work force. Because when you do a mass layoff, people will hear about it and it will make the news (especially for a company like Apple). But just not hire people and you can easily keep it off the news.
Speaking of which, has anyone seen any news reports about this other than here? Cause I think I'll agree with people saying shenanigans if this is the only thing we hear about it. Something like this would make news and be easy to find.
Of course they are for-profit company Einstein. I am continually amazed by people like you who take so much care to look out for Tim Cook's and his cronies' business. Do you have a personal stake in Apple's profits?
That's the stupidest thing in the world. I was in the store and just wanted to pay with cash....they couldn't figure it out. They looked at me like I had a third eye. I actually had to go out to the car and get my phone, download and app and then set it up and then scan my own item with said app and pay that way and leave.
They don't need too many store employees that way. It's all fricken self serve.
How do they even know if I actually paid for my item? I scanned a Airport Express and paid and walked out. No one checked me as I left.
So you did not see their last quarter results? Have you read about Apple starting to match price iPhones for the first time in history because of low demand?
Or this is all false.
A large company that is perceived to be doing really well, in fact makes stories about how it now has surpassed oil companies all the sudden having to do layoffs (which isn't a move you do when you start to do badly, this is a move most companies do when they are getting desperate. Usually by the time they do this move it is well known they are doing badly. Especially since doing a move like this is perceived as desperate and most companies don't want to scare their investors that way unless they have to)? Why is it that it is only here you can find a news story about that?
I'll reserve my judgement some and wait til tomorrow to see if more news surfaces (I have seen MR post something before other sources though usually it's within hours I see other reports) but I'm really skeptical as this would be huge news for any news site that likes to report on Apple (and a lot of them do). And by now I'd at least be able to expect to find other stories on it.
If this is true, the timing for this seems really dumb. They just spent money training a bunch of people and then let them go. That is not good management. At a minimum, with the imminent launch of the new iOS products and then holidays, people should have been kept on until after Christmas. And let attrition do the rest. It just would have made more sense.
I'd like to know the source. I can pull **** out of my ass too. But I don't to that, I always try to get a source or say it's in my own opinion. No source is not very professional.
The Apple Store has become a mess. Employees do not follow proper protocol. For example, you walk into an Apple store, you are rarely greeted anymore as employees tend to think that's the lowest job on the totem pole and tend to shuffle around the store.
Every now and then an employee asks you if you need help, of course no one wants to be the one to sign you in to the genius bar so you end up floating towards it. When you get there you stand around with your thumb up your ass looking at all the other perplexed customers. Finally someone gets around to ask you if you are signed in, usually out of turn.
The only thing that seems easy is making a purchase when you know exactly the product that you want, asking questions about the items being sold, even the computers often leads to confusion from employees that seem to congregate in groups rarely interested in helping anyone. The employees aren't worth a penny more than minimum wage for what they do.
I have come to the assumption that the vast majority of Apple retail employees are simply not computer savvy, they are at best glorified Macy's retail employees.
Every now and then an employee asks you if you need help, of course no one wants to be the one to sign you in to the genius bar so you end up floating towards it. When you get there you stand around with your thumb up your ass looking at all the other perplexed customers. Finally someone gets around to ask you if you are signed in, usually out of turn.
The only thing that seems easy is making a purchase when you know exactly the product that you want, asking questions about the items being sold, even the computers often leads to confusion from employees that seem to congregate in groups rarely interested in helping anyone. The employees aren't worth a penny more than minimum wage for what they do.
I have come to the assumption that the vast majority of Apple retail employees are simply not computer savvy, they are at best glorified Macy's retail employees.
You get what you want to get out of it
Sure, its a retail job making 9-15 bucks an hour. Maybe not the most ideal job for someone who has a mortgage to pay, but do you think everyone who works there has a mortgage? I'd assume a lot of their employees have roommates or still live with their parents while going to school part time or full time. And for those people, it's probably a pretty nice job for what their needs are.
And to all the people saying that they're glad they didn't apply to work at the Apple store now, who said they would of offered you the job in the first place lol. If saying that makes you feel better about yourself, all the power to you.
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Your local Apple store must have pretty poor service. Just keep in mind that they're all not as bad as that.
Sure, its a retail job making 9-15 bucks an hour. Maybe not the most ideal job for someone who has a mortgage to pay, but do you think everyone who works there has a mortgage? I'd assume a lot of their employees have roommates or still live with their parents while going to school part time or full time. And for those people, it's probably a pretty nice job for what their needs are.
And to all the people saying that they're glad they didn't apply to work at the Apple store now, who said they would of offered you the job in the first place lol. If saying that makes you feel better about yourself, all the power to you.
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Your local Apple store must have pretty poor service. Just keep in mind that they're all not as bad as that.
'Hiring Events' to the point of absurdity
Our store in Nashua, NH feasted on 'hiring events' held at a local hotel. It was penny wise & pound foolish, because that money could have gone to the retention of people they already had. Over the past few months, they 'Got Religion' and decided to do just that. Instead of making the hotel rich, they decided to shovel that money to the employees. How novel.
But having been away from that grind in Nashua...a mill is more like it...I realize that employee churn is something Apple CREATES rather being a 'victim' of. And it only increases as better-paying, less stressful career opportunities arise. Despite 'Apple being Apple,' it's easy to flee the retail store when something better comes along as it did for me. Did I miss saying that 'I Work for Apple!!!' No. Did I miss the employee discounts? No, because I fattened up on them big-time the week before I left.
Our store in Nashua, NH feasted on 'hiring events' held at a local hotel. It was penny wise & pound foolish, because that money could have gone to the retention of people they already had. Over the past few months, they 'Got Religion' and decided to do just that. Instead of making the hotel rich, they decided to shovel that money to the employees. How novel.
But having been away from that grind in Nashua...a mill is more like it...I realize that employee churn is something Apple CREATES rather being a 'victim' of. And it only increases as better-paying, less stressful career opportunities arise. Despite 'Apple being Apple,' it's easy to flee the retail store when something better comes along as it did for me. Did I miss saying that 'I Work for Apple!!!' No. Did I miss the employee discounts? No, because I fattened up on them big-time the week before I left.
Nobody who's serious about having a career that pays well and offers a lot of room for advancement should be working at an Apple Retail store in the first place. Those who have been laid off have actually been done a favor.
I have gone to the apple store here twice. Kids were playing games on everything both times so it was impossible to check anything out and the employee's could not be bothered.
I prefer even sams club over them. Here in mexico everywhere pretty much selles for the price on the apple mexico website (most stuff is more than us prices).
I prefer even sams club over them. Here in mexico everywhere pretty much selles for the price on the apple mexico website (most stuff is more than us prices).
I find these layoffs somewhat surprising given the calendar month that these are occurring. Usually in retail you would be ramping up your staff as the holiday period rolls around, then decrease staff the day after Christmas which is the peak of the year's sales. Retail work is hard and pays little and its hard to keep quality people around. I feel bad for anybody who gets laid off due to poor sales. Unless Apple can figure out a way to sell MTO at the store, you get more of what you want at the online Apple store.
Unless Apple can figure out a way to sell MTO at the store, you get more of what you want at the online Apple store.