That's irrelevant. Adjust OS release schedule based on objective completion timeline rather than iphone release cycle.Apple announces what is going to be "in" the next update at the Developer's conference. This allows developers to plan ahead for features within their own app. They also know that the tech heads will get excited about feature announcements as well, but the main purpose, hence the WWDC timing, is for the developers.
For 90% of the general public, the features released when the operating system makes it to their phone, is just the "next update" and they won't know or care if a feature makes it in now or in four months when their phone updates again.
I do agree about the yearly release not needing to be "a thing"
It's for the developers not for the general public. Developers would be pissed if they didn't get to know about features until Apple was releasing them to the general public.
Agree, I feel like it spreads the work too thin and takes too many subsequent versions to make features truly useful!
Your example just show you don’t get it.Even though the missing features have zero effect on other new features? That's wild as ****. Like saying you don't want SMS because MMS isn't available yet.
What are you babbling about? A vast majority of iOS 17 features are ready on day 1. The rollout of other features is a great idea, because it means we get new features all year, instead of all at once and having to wait a year for new ones. It keeps the phone feeling fresh.Your example just show you don’t get it.
It’s not holding back SMS because MMS is not ready, those are 2 different thing and released in 2 different “main os”.
It would be more like getting MMS wich do not support images and video yet and it will come at a later date.
Then it would basically be SMS wich we already got.
So I would wait to get MMS and get them for what they are and not a half baked version of it.
If i get “announced” a new feature I expect it to be there and working, getting a scaled down version and waiting to be patched is not a sane way of dealing with things.
This is the reason why deadlines are not respected anymore, because people are ok with it.
Take software on the 80 - 90s, you had to do the best to fix stuff Cause once the media is printed, that’s what user got.
Now with internet release, developers just release messes and then fixes them later, this is not acceptable.
While it is great to be able to fix in a second update, it should not be the reason not to meet deadline or to justify half baled features.
I mean would you be happy to have a Mario Jump game released and Mario cannot jump just yet? Hey relax it will be released a fix in the next year to make Mario jump…
Some people would be like hey I can still lurk around the map, would you be willing to give up the lurking in the meantime?
Heck yeah, just release the damn thing when it can jump.
Not a single feature is delayed. They have internal rollout schedules and they meet their targets. A delay would be if they announced a date for a feature and they didn’t meet it, and that isn’t what is happening here.I wonder how many times they’ll release a new OS with features delayed before they realize they can’t keep up this ridiculous yearly cycle? Maybe never, at least while the marketing people are in charge. I would love it if they switch to a two year cycle (especially on the Mac), so they can take their time and start getting things right again. They could offset them—do iOS/iPadOS one year, macOS another year. That should allow them to keep up the marketing momentum. They can sprinkle in the other devices’ software in between these two, or line it up with one of the other.
90 percent of features are done.Wait iOS 17 isn't ready? I thought they were releasing the update next week? What do they have done then?
There isn’t a delay.Is it they difficult to make these available at launch. I don’t under stand the delay
Then stay away from Android. Their features are delayed even longer (if you are lucky enough to get their delayed updates)Yea I’d rather have an OS that is complete.
Never understood this attitude, since there is worse this should be considered ok?Then stay away from Android. Their features are delayed even longer (if you are lucky enough to get their delayed updates)
Not that difficult with good management that understands software development. But Apple is run by Supply Chain and Marketing gurus now. Software is an afterthought.Is it they difficult to make these available at launch. I don’t under stand the delay
I guess that's a B+ for iOS 17 then.90 percent of features are done.
I believe I am correct AND you are correct. I agree that OS release schedules should not be yearly. I don't think iPhone release cycle should be yearly. However, what I said is VERY relevant for the people the announcements are for and in the context (WWDC event keynote) in which they are released. If you are not a developer, the announcements are not for YOU, even though you might tangentially enjoy the announcement (and Apple knows that).That's irrelevant. Adjust OS release schedule based on objective completion timeline rather than iphone release cycle.
Wait, Phish is still a thing?I’m hitting Phish Mexico in Feb. and would love that feature/option by then.
Very much so. If you ever saw them live, and enjoyed it, I recommend catching another show. You might be surprised. You might not. Cheers.Wait, Phish is still a thing?
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This is such an unhinged comment holy cowI'm just going to have to engage curmudgeon mode here,
Journal App, don't need.
Collaborative Apple Music Playlists, don't want.
Airdrop via internet, That's just a regular file transfer, don't care.
Three features involving Messages, an app I found so useless I deleted it as soon as it was possible to delete it.
Pause a podcast in Apple News, do't use apple news, so don't care.
Favorite songs playlist in Music app, I use an iPod for music, and it has a favorite songs playlist already.
Better Autofill on for PDFs, almost useful, but important stuff does not happen on my easily stolen iPad.
Fitness+, never use that.
Proximity sign in, Auto log in, I'm always suspicious of that.
Add to that we had the phone I don't need for $730 more than the flip phone that does do everything I need in a phone, and a watch with a battery life insufficient to get through one camping trip that costs $360 more than a Timex and tells time no better.
And they stopped selling biodegradable leather and are selling recycled polyester watchbands instead. And they have adopted Titanium, one of the most environmentally unfriendly non-green materials ever produced.
Talk about a clean miss of anything useful.
If you count new wallpapers and new ringtones as features then yes!90 percent of features are done.
I bet you’re super fun at parties…I'm just going to have to engage curmudgeon mode here,
Journal App, don't need.
Collaborative Apple Music Playlists, don't want.
Airdrop via internet, That's just a regular file transfer, don't care.
Three features involving Messages, an app I found so useless I deleted it as soon as it was possible to delete it.
Pause a podcast in Apple News, do't use apple news, so don't care.
Favorite songs playlist in Music app, I use an iPod for music, and it has a favorite songs playlist already.
Better Autofill on for PDFs, almost useful, but important stuff does not happen on my easily stolen iPad.
Fitness+, never use that.
Proximity sign in, Auto log in, I'm always suspicious of that.
Add to that we had the phone I don't need for $730 more than the flip phone that does do everything I need in a phone, and a watch with a battery life insufficient to get through one camping trip that costs $360 more than a Timex and tells time no better.
And they stopped selling biodegradable leather and are selling recycled polyester watchbands instead. And they have adopted Titanium, one of the most environmentally unfriendly non-green materials ever produced.
Talk about a clean miss of anything useful.
the problem is not the holding back. the problem is releasing half baked features and calling it a dayNot really. Apple holds back like 7-8 features (listed above), meanwhile still ships like 70-80 new features in 17.0. It's clearly better that they hold back a few things that aren't ready without holding back everything else. Stop trying to make a big deal about nothing, enjoy the dozens of new things and have some gratitude. It's all awesome new free stuff – a bunch now, and even more later. Can't believe people find a way to complain about that.
Way to move the goal posts. What features are half baked..?the problem is not the holding back. the problem is releasing half baked features and calling it a day
no, i actually said this previously, in the post you quote replied to so… already addressedWay to move the goal posts. What features are half baked..?