Apple Reveals 'Vision Pro' Headset and visionOS

[venom600]

The technology and pricing isn’t there yet for mainstream adoption. In a few years, the negative replies here will age as badly as the iPod/iPhone/iPad/Apple Watch naysayers comments did.

That's my thinking. This is like the iPhone if it were released in 2001. The tech is there at the extreme bleeding edge, but it just costs too much right now. In five years it'll be much more affordable and everyone will be wearing slim Nano or Air variants in different colors.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I can see few Trolls, who will be the first in line to buy this products.
The danger now is will we live with Vision Pro (or similar devices) on our head constantly, like we constantly are on our phone now? Will we detach ourselves from the real world?

I very much doubt this medium of working will be adopted by the majority. It’s not exactly healthy for collaboration or building work relationships and I doubt a huge number of businesses will use it. I can see it being more of a leisure device like games consoles are. Then again I saw rumours a while back that suggested this version would be £2k so it’s a limited concept in its own right.

 

[Iconoclysm]

It's not about the device... it's about the usefulness of it.

There are ZERO use cases Apple presented that are compelling that the Quest can't already do (movies and games). You completely missed the point of my post:

NO ONE WILL USE ADOBE LIGHTROOM ON THIS

Or any other "app" for that matter.

My son has a Meta Quest. I've used it extensively. You can put every app in the world on it and make it have perfect vision. At the end of the day, I still don't want to strap something on my head that covers my eyes.

Uhh, this will absolutely crush any Quest model at gaming and movies - especially when you consider the ecosystem it already lives in won't make you have to buy them all over again. I can already think of a ton of AR applications for this device in my hobbies alone. Sheet music floating in space in front of me? Control start and playback of backing tracks for practice with a nod? Recording situations just got a hell of a lot easier too.

I do get that this will easily cut out people who don't want a device on their head - but the entire premium VR market just lost everything to this one headset, which may lead to new people entering that market. And a slow march forward will follow.

 

[scrapesleon]

I need that we need that we will be there Tim

 

[ethanwa79]

This is going to destroy the big tv and projector market

No, it won't.

 

[Drogba11]

Not a word on the battery life! It must be really underwhelming…

It said all day plugged (duh) in or 2 hours on battery

 

[4nNtt]

Way to go Apple…launch a $3500 AR headset in a recession. Even in good economic times this thing would be a failure at that price.

We are not actually in a recession. The Federal Reserve says we are not in one and doesn't forecast one anytime soon. We just have high inflation which kinda goes along with expensive headsets.

IMHO, I think it is probably worth the price and they will have trouble making enough for demand with all the specialty components. As the supply chain gets better new models at lower prices will start to come out.

 

[gagaliya]

Coming from someone who has been using vr like quest 2 for years, you lemmings don’t seem to understand apple. They are never about introducing a new category, but perfecting it for mass adoption.

1) All hundreds of thousands of apps work on day 1, no one have that.

2) The screen quality and resolution is extraordinary, it will allow a real replacement for a high end 100”+ 4K tv or projector, which costs 5k+ already. Compared to the existing top end vr screens, it’s not even in the same league. People don’t understand how important this is for mass adoption. Try to watch a movie on a quest 2 or valve index screen, it’s terrible vs real tv.

3) it has dev kit millions of devs already familiar with and easy to build apps for, look at quest 2 dev kit, it’s a cluster mess…at the end having good high quality apps is what will drive mass adoption.

4) I have my doubts about it replacing desktop computers, but if it can, it will just be icing on the cake.

5) this is just gen 1, anyone remembered how bad gen1 iPhone was…..the product will advance at a lightning pace with prices dropping each iteration, until it reaches maturity like iPhone has.

This will change the world…just give it few years to mature.

 

[coolbreeze2]

How much will Apple Care + with Theft and Loss cost? Care to guess?

 

[thadoggfather]

This is going to destroy the big tv and projector market

I actually wonder what impact it will have there It’s an interesting thought

 

[krspkbl]

Will be interesting to see the reaction of the average casual user. This could really be the next big thing and replace smartphones.

But that prices absolutely NEEDS to come down. I know it's just been announced and not coming for a while but they have to get cheaper models out ASAP.

The good thing is nothing comes close to matching the technology so Apple probably have a good few years head start. I can't see Facebook, Valve, or anyone else putting out something on par with this in the next 3-5 years.

 

[threesixty360]

I don't know if anyone gets the way Apple works but this is absolutely the blue print. They didn't step into the mobile phone market without addressing all the major use problems with phones. When they addressed those people "adapted" to the iPhone and dealt with the things that were missing from their other phones (keyboards, replaceable batteries etc.)

Apple is doing the same here. They have addressed the short comings of most of the VR headsets from before. The biggie being you are cut off from the world when you wear them, not so with Apple's device.

The other thing people are missing is that they've made it a productivity device first and foremost. Thats what they led with. That then justifies the expense. The Oculus etc to me only seemed to be about games and getting into new worlds etc.. Apple have made this device firmly about your very real life, not some out there meta universe!

Finally they told you in true salesman fashion all the devices this can substitute for. Want a projector or big screen tv in your small apartment with great sound.. they got you. Big screen for your MacBook Air in your tiny student bedroom.. got you. Feeling nervous about flying.. let them take you away from that. Want some peace and quiet in a forest vibe. they got you.

They way the ad showed it as a normal part of your world. I remember when no one really took big studio like headphones on the train. Then people started liking the better sound, noise cancelling and the ability to make your journey better. And they got over the bulk. It's going to be a bit like this. People will adapt to this if it offers you a better journey, a better experience. I think they tried really hard here and they've won me over. And I was never ever that interested in any VR headset.

Well done guys!

 

[Pinkyyy 💜🍎]

Just finished watching the WWDC and the Vision Pro is such an incredible product !! But also VERY expensive haha.

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

After seeing the headset. Anyone feels weird? Deja vu?

 

[macrumors3000]

I can't wait to show it off at Starbucks!

 

[anthonymoody]

Not a word on the battery life! It must be really underwhelming…

If by not a word you mean several words specifying battery life, then yes. Did you watch the keynote?

 

[RevTEG]

I assure you, you cannot. I just took my family of 3 to Disney, and after flights, hotel, park passes, dinners, etc, we easily spent 10-15k.

I started to say you‘re doing Disney wrong, but it sounds like you’re doing it right, I mean luxurious. Congrats. But I assure you a family of 5, my wife and I plus our 3 kids do Disney MUCH cheaper than you. But again, congrats. 😂

 

[JTK Awesome]

The future is HERE! Ready player 1!

What a great age this will be

Ready Player One: we are surprisingly close to realising just such a VR dystopia

In this vision of the future, everything that we currently do in the real world – going to school, going to work, socialising, leisure – is done in a vast virtual environment.

theconversation.com

 

[NLLV]

Is anyone else wondering about the price? It sounds more like something to target enterprise at $3499. I only use Apple products, but even I have a hard time justifying that price.

 

[braintumor]

Why so expensive? Might as well buy the PS VR2 with a PS5 for $1100 and wait for gen2 or 3 to come out... lets be honest, most people will buy this just to play games, watch movies, tv and porn...
i do not see this as a productivity machine as the software and battery-life will be the biggest bottleneck to make this a potential replacement for your mac/ipad.

They are 3 years too late with this! This would have been awesome during the pandemic when stuck at home, but nobody will go out on a road trip and use this to take pictures.

Also, am I the only one that thinks "Vision Pro" is a hideous name!?

 

[Osxguy]

A way to escape the dystopian concrete island the Bay Area creates. I can see it now. Ok employees you have twenty minutes off but stay on vision then come back to our meeting. For a company that’s requiring everyone back in the office this seems odd. I can see this becoming a class system like the gold Apple Watch… it is entering a saturated market. I’m on the fence .. I wouldn’t bet on it… but apple still has a year to put this into the right “product placement” locations to make it normal.

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

It's also going to take a while to get over this.

 

[Thenephi]

Passengers are going to be able to rent these on long flights at a premium, so there's a big chunk of orders for Apple.

 

[x-evil-x]

difference is only you can watch and experience it. so for a single person, sure - greatest device ever. for a family or couple... can't say the same

I’m not saying it will replace my full atmos surround sound setup.
im just trying to tell that person that said a full system is cheaper is clearly wrong. 3500$ for a full system is very cheap. Let alone a tv.

im still keeping my surround sound. Can’t see it replacing it whatsoever.

 

[jz0309]

The price is justified by the various components, but not something to “try out”, I think one needs much more than a short demo to get convinced