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Apple pretty much invented the smartphone space so consumers eyes would be glued to their products,
Not really. It was Facebook and Twitter.

Apple created the tool by bettering (by a lot) an existing technology, but it’s those two companies that created the “always glued” scenario.
 
Love it! Will definitely be buying one. I'd spend this much on a Mac. Not a big deal. I'm sure the price will become more approachable to ordinary users eventually.

I'm just concerned about no motion controllers. I think they are still essential for games and precise interaction in 3D. Maybe it will be a third-party market?
Hand motion sensors built in, there is bluetooth for keyboards
 
Apples biggest challenge right now with Vision Pro is mass adoption.

This isn’t leveraging a device we all used day to day like the iPhone was built on. The market for head wearables is still nascent.

Maybe Apple’s involvement is the rocket it needed? Time will tell.
 
In my opinion, they nailed it. They just need to deliver on their promises now, which admittedly, are quite lofty. As someone working in VFX and video editing, this looks like a very useful productivity tool to me (if it works as intended). I like that they focused heavily on productivity instead of leaning in the direction that the Facebook Oculus went. That always seemed like a gimmicky toy to me. I think people just use the Occulus to float around the Metaverse and pretend to be 8-bit Legomen so they can collect virtual Facebook coins while they **** themselves in a digital litter box.
 
Holy crap I got the same sensation. Like wouldn't you just want to be hanging out with your kids in real life? I don't know, when I'm old and grey looking at my kids on 3d/VR is probably going to be too sad if they actually aren't there. I'd rather have them come over and break out a photo album or videos.
I definitely think it's one of those things which will one day seem as normal as recording your kid blowing out the candles and playing it back on your phone. Honestly, since you'd be watching it in 3D as the recording happens instead of through a 2D panel it might be a bit more natural. I just had an odd visceral "this feels wrong" reaction to that part.
 
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won't work,
the tech and software combination is probably revolutionary in this sector,
but this is way too expensive.
 
Divorced dad memories app 🤣

Don't forget the bottle of whiskey and the flashbacks of being unable to attend your kids birthday party because you were taking down drug smugglers. Damnit, I KNEW Vision Pro was going to be useful for something!
 
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this may go down as one of the dumbest most useless waste of money and resources ever developed and we will have to go through the next year of all the apple sheep tubers going nuts over this thing...
 
I don't see that - far too many motors, sensors, glass and lenses. It has an M2 also. Plus it is custom fitted.
This is a remarkably complicated device and is going to be very difficult to reduce in cost.

Forget all that. I meant second hand because in 2025 we will probably have that M3 with 3nm. The M2 will equip probably the Vision (without the Pro) with some improvements. Oh, we will also have the Vision Ultra (2026 or so). If not ... it means that things have not gone well at all.

Anyway, the presentation was very exciting ... I think they are in the right direction in terms of uses cases. Not as right like I felt they were with the iPhone when first launched. It will take longer for this to take off than the Apple Watch ... if it takes off.

For now an extremely expensive tech toy. A very nice fully working toy to entertain oil tycoons ... heck those might put one on every toilet in their mansions.
 
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No. It replaces your direct vision with camera-based vision of the environment. You can still walk around without running into things. How good/bad that is remains for us to experience when product is available.

Peripheral vision has entered the chat...
 
I want Vision Pro to succeed. Because I want the future version that’s smaller, lighter, cheaper.

So many people on here acting like it will never improve or get cheaper. Just go look at every 1st gen Apple product and compare it to now. I remember thinking there was no way the original iPod could get any smaller…
 
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One of the most bizarre things about an AR headset such as this is how it takes reality and pulls you out of it.

iPhones, along with the internet, allow you to connect to people you can't see or be near. It allows you to feel closer to people who can't be with you.

AR does the opposite. It takes you out of reality and instead virtually isolates you. There is a moment in the Vision Pro ad where a man takes a photo of his children using the headset. He never experienced that moment in real life. He watched it on the screens strapped to his face.

AR needs to augment reality. Not record it on cameras and play it back to you. We're a long way from true AR.

Oh and rendering fake digital eyes on the outside of the headset is one of the most bizarre creepy things I've ever seen.
 
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I don’t think one actually “sees through” it.

The EXTERNAL cameras capture the world around you and then display it INTERNALLY to you on the screens - apparently with very low lag which is what makes most ppl nautious using devices like this. The EYES that one sees from OUTSIDE, are your eyes represented EXTERNALLY on the OUTSIDE of the face screen, on an external display to the world and others around you.
correct. People should realize the eyes would be blocked from view by the OLED panels directly in front of each eye. They show the innards and all the sensors in one of the shots,
 

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Nokia's first smartphones (Do you refer to the early clamshell Communicator line? Or the keypad N9x/N8x series? The E series?) had absolutely nothing in common with the Newton. Heck, the Symbian dialpad phones didn't even have a touchscreen...
Nokia's first "smartphones" if you want to call them that, were in a form factor that failed...so obviously the Newton won out on the design inspiration going forward.

The e series and n series were long, long, LONG, after the first popular PDA's. Having cellular functionality was great, eventually, but the Newton's inspiration went directly to the Palm and HP's first PocketPC's. Which led to the first Windows Mobile phones. Which were around for almost 3 years before Nokia really even started. Sony/Ericsson had one as well around the same time.

Symbian adopted touch input in 2002, by the way. But you're really only proving my point here, as all of those designs failed.
 
Words you clearly don’t understand. It shows you an image of the real world, not the real world itself. Therefor it is, for all intents and purposes, virtual reality.
This isn't a conversation about the semantics of augmented reality versus virtual reality - the conversation is about whether the device "completely obscures the user's field of vision". Which it does not. Watch the sizzle reel/advert with the Father playing football with his daughter in their kitchen. Whilst he is wearing the device. That would not be possible with completely obscured field of vision.
 
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Sounds remarkable. I’m surprised it won’t be available outside the US right away, but maybe they will stagger other countries in as production capacity improves. Im guessing this will be very difficult to purchase, with long wait times…
 
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Next year: Vision Pro Air Max Ultra 😎

Honestly, some cool features but also really dystopian to me. 😖
 
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Was there any mention of a case these will come with?

Hoping for a matching set to go with the AirPods Max bra case.
 
When we getting final cut pro?

also can we get this in a cool color so we dont look like dorks while out in public with this thing on?

:p:p
 
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I dont know any normal persona thats going to spend $3500 on this thing... This product is build for tech tubers to gush over get their views up and never touch again
 
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