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It almost didn't feel real the demos they were showing. When I first saw the person walking around their office, I was confused, "oh they want people to wear this during day to day life". It was shocking to be honest.
Yes, with the demos they showed… Apple thinks you can work while using this. Quite a different use case than all the others where its just for playing games
 
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As i perused the comments , it reminds me how the name “ipad“ were mocked when it was first announced. l still want that new gadget.
Literally every new product Apple came out with has been mocked. People hated the AppleWatch because it’s not round, hundreds of messages just on that, ffs. Wish I had a dollar for every claim a product is trash and no one needs it but then it becomes the most popular/most copied version
 
I work from home once a week and throughout the pandemic I spent 10 months working remotely. If there is one thing I learned, there is no substitute of collaborating face to face. Meetings over Teams with shared screens are commonplace still, but building relationships is more effective in person generally. I couldn’t imagine an environment wearing one of these devices for multiple hours a day. I think it would be time to change career at that point personally lol.
This is a problem that really needs to be addressed. Meeting virtually needs to also happen informally. Some apps are attempting to create random meetings but that's just not doable either. Unfortunately, VR might be the only way this could ever work. Where two people could step aside out of "hearing distance" from the other participants and have a sidebar.
 
So it obscures your entire field of vision.
No. It replaces your direct vision with camera-based vision of the environment. You can still walk around without running into things. How good/bad that is remains for us to experience when product is available.
 
But, it’s just increasing isolation
As I said in my post, the big issue with VR and also AR is that they're personal technology that want to be community technology. It's a true contradiction. There are signs Apple's tried to address some of these concerns with the eyeball display and notifying the user when people are around, but it feels like they've still missed the point. AR has to be a shared experience. Everybody has to have it. If they don't then it's isolating.
 
If I buy one in the US, will I be able to use it normally in Canada without worrying about setting up VPN? Is the item warranty serviceable in Canada? Is it returnable in Canada?
 
Yeah, that was extremely cringy. I can't imagine wearing this during "cherished moments" in order to capture those moments in 3D.
The next thing they need to make is add an extra lens to the iPhone for taking 3D pictures and videos so you don't need this to just take pictures.
 
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Interesting that they attempt to hide the battery pack cord in some of the scenes. Who the hell wants a pony tail battery pack.
 
I think these look pretty amazing. I’m a little surprised by all the hate.

Ahh, what am I saying, this is MacRumors, everyone is going to crap all over it, but it’ll still mysteriously fly off the shelves and be on back order for months.
At THAT price?!
 
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It’s sad that you think that looking at a picture of a thing is the same as looking at a thing with your own actual eyes.

I think you need to brush up on your reading comprehension skills because that's exactly what I wrote. You're looking through a display (VR) not with your own eyes (AR) so this will fail.
 
A lot of trolls in here going to be eating some serious crow if this thing takes off.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m as skeptical as anyone else but I don’t ever want to doubt Apple as they’ve had several successful product launches in the past when people thought they’d flop.

I’m bookmarking this thread in my MacRumors folder for future reference! 😆
 
And I've worked at home, mostly alone for about 25 years. It's how I work best. There's no one "right" way for any style of work. If it isn't for you, great! But you are not me, and there are many people who need to work in isolation (I write philosophy, for example. Not a lot of team work in my line).
The best philosophy was written without VR… (just kidding 😆)

I don’t think this will give you the solitude you’re thinking of. I think it will give you solitude from a human perspective, but it will be so full of embedded distractions (aimed at hijacking your focus) that it will be very hard to write books with this, especially as apps will become more complex.
 
This makes previous VR sets, look like junky toys. The integration of everything in this is truly impressive. The price makes sense considering it capabilities and the long list of sensors and chips coming together here. Can’t wait to be able to demo it in-person.
 
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The ready player model has essentially airpods max on it. Plus a sleeker look. That future model should be way more immersive than this one, which is basically a more expensive version of the future watered down consumer model. But if glasses make your eye muscles lazy to the point you need thicker glasses, what is this thing going to do to your retinas over time since your eyes wont have to focus on anything. This is in a world where it is known your chances of head tumors go up the longer you have a smartphone next to your skull. Now you have wifi and LED's affecting you for hours on end daily. This better have stairs and trip hazard detection built in too. Thats why those IR sensors should map your entire living space so it can detect all potential hazards and warn if they may pose problems.
 
VisionPro when viewing virtual content vs when viewing the real world

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That's the point. All those who are saying "What's the use case?" are looking for a narrow definition of how to use this device. You can't imagine my use case, because it's a general use computing platform. It's wide open and expansive. This is not about VR gaming. This is not about AR overlay. It's those things and a thousand more.

As I said in a previous comment, I write philosophy. That's my use case, and I can't wait to use this tool for that. To explain, I'm working on 2 different books right now. I sit a chair in my home office with my laptop. I have post-it notes coving my walls. I rearrange them and look at them over the top of my laptop. Now I can do that virtually, while sitting on a park bench in whatever setting will help inspire me to write that day.

That's not some simple "use case." That's a wholly adaptable environment specific to me.

I'll be curious to read about the philosophy of being inspired by VR headset locations, without actually having any sensation other than vision, and not even full vision but vision encased in a headset. I get it, logistically you can't fly to a different country or remote getaway every day, but you still lose so much by not smelling, tasting, feeling, moving, etc. Call me when these things are Holodeck capable, otherwise I'll be happy enough with the park down the street.
 
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I really like that they're not marketing this as a VR headset for gaming, but rather as a computing device. This is essentially a replacement for an infinitely gigantic monitor. You can pretty much have the experience of watching an IMAX movie, which you'd never even get close to no matter how huge of a home cinema projector you buy. Though, of course, for 1 audience member only... Still, it's an experience that was not at all even remotely possible from home until now. And they solved the most annoying problem with VR headsets: that they isolate you from the world and render you blind, tripping over your furniture. No silly controllers, just your eyes and hands, this is what Apple has always been good at.

I guess this is the first non-entertainment use of a VR headset, and it's going to be pretty interesting to see what it will feel like. You could get some incredibly complex tasks set up for video editing and multitasking. Always seeing your environment while using it is a great idea, there's no need to always be isolated from reality. In fact, I guess full immersion is something you'd only want in specific cases.

This seems to be more like the iPhone or the Mac in itself: it's meant to do anything and everything that a computer can do, rather than just to run games or some other specific use case.

There are some features that feel like gimmicks, like taking photos with it or casually reliving memories from your iCloud library... But it seems to have every possible feature you can think of so it could literally do anything you want. It's like an "experience" interface for whatever it is you'd want to do on a computer, rather than a device just for gaming or just for specific types of content, which would have been greatly limiting (especially on Macs where gaming is more and more non-existent).

Of course it's still a year away and even then it will only be available in the US, and even then it will cost an arm and a leg, and God help you if you need glasses because I'm sure those Zeiss inserts are going to cost your other arm and your other leg. And so will the external battery and who knows what else. But it does seem like it's aimed at "Pros" from the name, which would imply that it's not so much a personal consumer device, more of a productivity/corporate tool, in which case you'll buy it anyway if it makes your work more efficient and helps you make more money.

But it seems like if you'd only get this for fun and entertainment, then you might not get the most out of it for its price, because I bet you can't even use it on your PC to play VR games. So if you want entertainment/gaming from VR, then you'd be much better off with a PC and a VR headset.
 
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You’re still staring at a screen across your whole field of vision and if you need glasses you need to give Apple your prescription and purchase their expensive Zeiss corrective lenses.

So SO many ways this thing is a fail.
Why are you under the impression that you can't wear glasses under these? They said there were many different sizes of the shroud.
 
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