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Of course it will be rolled out here in the UK and elsewhere in the world at the same time. It's using existing NFC technology, meaning anywhere you can use swipe to pay (McDonalds, Starbucks, etc) then you will be able to use NFC. All you will have to do is enter your card details into your phone, hopefully it gives you the option to add more than 1 card and an option on which card to use at the point of sale.

Actually thats a great point if you can add more than one card and have loyalty points added and stored etc all in one go that could make it worth the effort to implement in a phone. I'm just seeing it being very hard for people to do, most iOS stuff is easy but this is getting to a level of complicated. I feel like apple will go the route of only letting you use your iTunes account to pay and only the one card that's attached.
 
NFC is handy, for quick, cheap transactions like Starbucks and lunch from the supermarket. But it's limited to £15 per transaction in the UK, so would serve zero use in places like an Apple Store where no doubt the average transaction is something in the £500-£1k mark.
 
Unfortunately I reckon it'll take some time for it to really kick off here... America is always first. I want iTunes Radio already!

This payment system has to launch worldwide. They can't afford to roll this out in America first. I mean we are still waiting for iTunes Radio n the UK

Bets on how long it will be before anywhere outside the US would get this....

Sometimes I feel like I live in Elbonia...

Apple's market share in the US is over 40%. In some Western European countries (Italy, Spain, etc) Windows Phone gives it a run for its money. Small wonder why the US appears to get special treatment. We are Apple's most important market.
 
NFC is handy, for quick, cheap transactions like Starbucks and lunch from the supermarket. But it's limited to £15 per transaction in the UK, so would serve zero use in places like an Apple Store where no doubt the average transaction is something in the £500-£1k mark.

My guess is that it is linked to TouchID. There is a reason Apple waited so long to adopt NFC. They wanted to address its biggest shortcoming, which is security.
 
Of course it will be rolled out here in the UK and elsewhere in the world at the same time. It's using existing NFC technology, meaning anywhere you can use swipe to pay (McDonalds, Starbucks, etc) then you will be able to use NFC. All you will have to do is enter your card details into your phone, hopefully it gives you the option to add more than 1 card and an option on which card to use at the point of sale.

That's what I was going to ask..
Is it expected to be the same as, or at least work like, the current contactless card method?
Or is it something new apple have "invented" that happens to use NFC too?

I ask because Samsung (and other android and windows phone devices) had NFC in phones for the last two or so Galaxy S devices/years and I don't think there's a method to put your card details in and use your phone as a contactless payment method in the UK.
Barclaycard did it on some NFC enabled devices, partnered with orange. That's ended now though, so hopefully that's ended because something better is coming (From apple..)?
Google wallet exists in the USA, and I think that works as a contactless payment method? But last time I tried, it wasn't active in the UK.
 
This payment system has to launch worldwide. They can't afford to roll this out in America first. I mean we are still waiting for iTunes Radio n the UK

Apple really only care about the 1 place in the world they are the most popular.
 
Apple really only care about the 1 place in the world they are the most popular.

Ah there it is. Blaming Apple for your country's local laws and content restrictions. Do you REALLY think Apple can just magically wave a wand and force content owners in your nation to let them distribute things? If you have an issue with what's available or not, perhaps take it up with your government.
 
And the whole iTunes radio thing is right up there with why we in the US can't get BBC etc on our Apple TVs and you can't get US stations. tons of legalities, licensing etc.

I wish us Brits could get BBC on our Apple TVs Though it's not offered because the Beeb don't like that it's limited to Apple Devices. Aside from Netflix and iTunes, alongside a bit of Sky News, we don't really get the same benefit as you guys over the pond... Not that I'm complaining. What it does show, works really well!
 
Actually thats a great point if you can add more than one card and have loyalty points added and stored etc all in one go that could make it worth the effort to implement in a phone. I'm just seeing it being very hard for people to do, most iOS stuff is easy but this is getting to a level of complicated. I feel like apple will go the route of only letting you use your iTunes account to pay and only the one card that's attached.
Even if it goes via iTunes thats great, but some people for whatever reason have multiple bank accounts, some people have credit cards. When you swipe over a simple notification asking you which card to use which you tap on and then hold your finger against touch ID would work.

I think Apple's partnership is more to do with accepting touch ID as form of authentication and getting card companies on board with it rather than using it via iTunes. I think Apple have dangled this carrot of extra security to card companies and have asked for reduced fee's for their transactions in return.
 
This payment system has to launch worldwide. They can't afford to roll this out in America first. I mean we are still waiting for iTunes Radio n the UK

Apple has $150B that would say otherwise. They can afford basically anything.
 
That's what I was going to ask..
Is it expected to be the same as, or at least work like, the current contactless card method?
Or is it something new apple have "invented" that happens to use NFC too?
I would imagine it's the same technology and will work the same as putting one of those NFC sticker tags on your phone does. All Apple is bringing to the table is a more secure way of authentication via touch ID, in future this form of identification could result in NFC being allowed above the current £20 limit.
 
Literally i don't understand why we need NFC especially attached to a device, it makes no sense to connect something to a phone when the communication can be done in other ways without the NFC tag being attached to the phone.

I remember the day when people didn't understand the advantages of being able to carry a phone in your pocket, what with all those (wired) public and booth telephones all around.

Maybe this isn't for you. Maybe you don't need it. Maybe, though, there are others in the world that might find this a convenience, a useful alternative to the way things are being done now, an improvement for them in their lives.

There's a famous quote from back in the day when wagon trains were heading to the U.S. West and got stuck up in the mountains when it snowed: "Them that's going, get out and push - them that ain't, just get out." Figure out whether going this way is for you or not, and if not then don't stand in the way of those of us that are. Keep your chip & pin cards - even if you get the new device(s) - I'm pretty sure no one is trying to force you to use this new technology...
 
So if only the iPhone 6 has NFC then the millions upon millions of existing iPhones out there won't be able to take advantage of it. So could the "iWatch" or whatever contain an NFC chip as well so that it becomes a "companion" device to the older iPhones and iPads so that they will be able to take advantage of the new payment system as well? Just a thought.

absolutely sure it will.

i think the protocol will look like this...

put the watch on it senses it has been put on via heart rate sensor and notifications for authenticating payments pop up on the watch and iphone (always paired via BTLE for continuity), for phones with touch sensor you just touch it once and done the watch is authenticated to make purchases all day until removed. phones without touch sensor will enter password, same thing. you walk up to vendor register, beacon already knows you are ready for checkout, wakes the watch ready for payment. cashier rings up your total and you simply wave your watch over the nfc console, watch shows total and tap button to accept or swipe left to deny. receipt shows up in your passbook. process is the same for loyalty cards and rewards, movie tickets, etc.

the key here is you do not have to authenticate every purchase. it will be a one tap and done since the watch has never left your arm. take the watch off and it resets it's authentication.
 
Of course it will be rolled out here in the UK and elsewhere in the world at the same time. It's using existing NFC technology, meaning anywhere you can use swipe to pay (McDonalds, Starbucks, etc) then you will be able to use NFC. All you will have to do is enter your card details into your phone, hopefully it gives you the option to add more than 1 card and an option on which card to use at the point of sale.

Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions...
 
Disney's retail stores are also said to be receiving new credit card machines that support NFC, which will also likely integrate with Apple's new mobile payment service. Reports from this past week have also indicated that Apple will be partnering with a number of other retailers for the service, including Walgreens, CVS, Nordstrom and more.

Apple has also established deals with major credit companies such as Visa, MasterCard, American Express, and credit card issuers to support its mobile payments service.

Can someone chime in on whether or not Google ever established partnerships with major stores and credit card companies for Android?

I'm just wondering if this a new thing or will Apple simply frame it as doing NFC 'right' and 'secure'.
 
Get a room...

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I can't wait to be able to make all of my Disney store purchases with my phone. It'll be a real time-saver.
 
Ah there it is. Blaming Apple for your country's local laws and content restrictions. Do you REALLY think Apple can just magically wave a wand and force content owners in your nation to let them distribute things? If you have an issue with what's available or not, perhaps take it up with your government.

No it's fine.

I just think it's sad that the western world is so far behind the times with using your phone for payments, even if small payments, when some poor 3rd work countries have been using it for ages even with dumb phones
 
Nfc is old technology has been out for over 10 years with there billion dollar fortress they could had made there own payment systems and adapt companies and consumers better.
 
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