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Actually, you cannot sync Apple Music to an iPod at all. You can download it to an iPod Touch over wifi, but you can't sync Apple Music to it from iTunes. And you can't sync Apple Music to an iPod nano or shuffle or other iPod at all.

This is why I will let Apple Music lapse in 2 1/2 months.

Same here. I use my very old 30GB iPod via USB in my vehicle for music. Sometimes I use bluetooth with my iPhone 6 and stream Apple Music... and even though it auto-plays at times picking right back up where I left off before if I want to switch songs I have to navigate Apple Music till I find a playlist I like. That doesn't take very long, but my built-in navigation for my iPod is pretty easy with a few clicks on my wheel to grab the playlist I want.

But you raise a very good point about letting Apple Music lapse if I can't download some music to my iPod (even if there was a requirement to check back in or have the music expire after a certain time I'd be fine with that to keep my old gear).

Also, I don't always get cell data service when I'm driving out of town so I can't rely on Apple Music solely.
 
I'm not against it but does it make sense to mount 64-bit CPU on an iPod?
It makes sense for the new iPod Touch to support Apple Pay, which would require a 64-bit CPU, perhaps even an A8. I don't know whether or not the A7 can support Apple Pay.
 
Is it just me, or is anybody else bored of Apple? Apple Watch, the first truly new product Apple has released in at least 5 years, was a huge let down. All Apple does these days minor refinement of existing products. I was looking forward to a new Apple TV announcement because that product is in desperate need of a big change, but rumors about that seemed to have died completely.

Other companies are doing VR or AR and making self-driving cars, mapping under oceans and coming out with voice activated home assistant products and set-top boxes that play games and respond to gestures and voice. Apple seems to be in maintenance mode on what seems to be an increasingly boring lineup of products. So they make a computer thinner or a tablet or phone thinner, so what. A touchpad that buzzes, big freaking whoop. They changed the shape of a battery, wow, stunning. Music subscription, join the club. The biggest thing Apple has done this year is global Radio, but really meh, I have been listening to online radio streams from around the world for a decade now, Beats 1 is nothing. The last WWDC keynote was boring as hell and all it did was show people how much catching up Apple has to do when they start bragging about things like snapping apps to the side of your screen.

Even the rumors on this site have become mundane and centered more around the day to day operation of Apple or announcing that someone is putting up a poster in an Apple store. I used to get excited reading blogs here when there were new and amazing products coming out including dramatic new re-designs of products. Now it is kind of sad really that people get excited because an icon changed on an OS beta.

Apple has a ton of money and simply no vision. Tim Cook may be a good janitor, keeping Apple running, but the loss of Steve Jobs is starting to take affect. Apple hasn't excited me for years now and other people I talk too about Apple are just as bored.

So Apple comes out with new colors for iPod's for a dying product market? Wake me up when this company does something great...or even something NEW again.
 
As an elementary school teacher the majority of people I see buying iPod Touch are buying it for their children who are too young to need a cell phone. Having said that, I see more kids using old iPhones without SIM cards than using iPod Touch
That was actually a more affordable solution for us than buying an iPod. For awhile I was even using my iPhone 5s as an iPod for music but now my daughter is using it since her iPhone 3 finally bit the dust. Or rather the battery did.
 
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Is it just me, or is anybody else bored of Apple? Apple Watch, the first truly new product Apple has released in at least 5 years, was a huge let down. All Apple does these days minor refinement of existing products. I was looking forward to a new Apple TV announcement because that product is in desperate need of a big change, but rumors about that seemed to have died completely...
(Shortening the original post quoted since it is right before mine)
...Even the rumors on this site have become mundane and centered more around the day to day operation of Apple or announcing that someone is putting up a poster in an Apple store. I used to get excited reading blogs here when there were new and amazing products coming out including dramatic new re-designs of products. Now it is kind of sad really that people get excited because an icon changed on an OS beta...

...Apple has a ton of money and simply no vision. Tim Cook may be a good janitor, keeping Apple running, but the loss of Steve Jobs is starting to take affect. .

As I was reading fellow forum members intriguing ideas for refreshing the product line, I started to think along the same lines as you.

Their existing product line consists of very useful devices. There is no excuse to let these iPads, iPods, work stations, laptops, etc. stagnate so badly.

Goodness at this point I'd be excited to hear that the iPhones will come out in IPod colors...they're getting so stodgy compared to the competition.

The watch is innovative in many ways and that's where I differ in thought from your post. I see the creative spark still there in the Watch. I'm just wondering why it's not being applied to the other products as much. Perhaps that was the reason for the recent reorganization and Jony's new position. He can now oversee everything a bit more freely and perhaps supply the vision that Steve once did. Now that he won't be bogged down in implementing all the details. While I enjoy poking fun at him as much as the next person on this forum, I don't really believe all he's contributed all these years is to make everything thinner.

I'm in a bit of a rush so it's hard for me to articulate my thoughts on this subject at the moment. But in general, I can't disagree with you.

In short, I don't necessarily expect them to build new devices to blaze a new market but I think they can do so much more with what they already have.
 
Did anyone else pay attention to the Clock app? It could be showing when the planned announcement time is. The app face showed about 9:40, so maybe the announcement will be made at or shortly thereafter 9:40 AM PST? You have to zoom in on the image and stare at the iPod's clock app for a few seconds to see it. Does it sound plausible to anyone else that the time as well as the date could be shown in the image?

It's 9:41 which is the time every iPhone/iPod/iPad shows in promos, etc.
 
The volume buttons on my 6 gen nano recently stopped working so I'm in the market for a replacement. What I wouldn't give for that form factor with bluetooth for running...
 
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Is it just me, or is anybody else bored of Apple? Apple Watch, the first truly new product Apple has released in at least 5 years, was a huge let down. All Apple does these days minor refinement of existing products. I was looking forward to a new Apple TV announcement because that product is in desperate need of a big change, but rumors about that seemed to have died completely.

Other companies are doing VR or AR and making self-driving cars, mapping under oceans and coming out with voice activated home assistant products and set-top boxes that play games and respond to gestures and voice. Apple seems to be in maintenance mode on what seems to be an increasingly boring lineup of products. So they make a computer thinner or a tablet or phone thinner, so what. A touchpad that buzzes, big freaking whoop. They changed the shape of a battery, wow, stunning. Music subscription, join the club. The biggest thing Apple has done this year is global Radio, but really meh, I have been listening to online radio streams from around the world for a decade now, Beats 1 is nothing. The last WWDC keynote was boring as hell and all it did was show people how much catching up Apple has to do when they start bragging about things like snapping apps to the side of your screen.

Even the rumors on this site have become mundane and centered more around the day to day operation of Apple or announcing that someone is putting up a poster in an Apple store. I used to get excited reading blogs here when there were new and amazing products coming out including dramatic new re-designs of products. Now it is kind of sad really that people get excited because an icon changed on an OS beta.

Apple has a ton of money and simply no vision. Tim Cook may be a good janitor, keeping Apple running, but the loss of Steve Jobs is starting to take affect. Apple hasn't excited me for years now and other people I talk too about Apple are just as bored.

So Apple comes out with new colors for iPod's for a dying product market? Wake me up when this company does something great...or even something NEW again.

Fashion bro, the future is fashion. Angela will be CEO someday and then everything will be fabulous.
 
So happy this is happening. Never used iPhone, but the iPod touch is great!
I know not for everyone, but I have never had a need for cell phone.. so this for me is just awesome.
iPod/iPad are the best devices.
 
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Updated internals, Touch ID, and big screen and I'm sold. Can't make the purchase without all 3 of those (I have become dependent on Touch ID). My use case: I have an iPhone 5s and am very happy with its size as a phone, but when I'm at home I want an internet device/e-reader that's bigger but can still fit in my pocket (not an iPad).
 
I'd love a 128 GB version of a new ipod touch. maybe maybe it USB 3 compatible? they don't update them frequently, so love to get that.

Would also be good with 64 bit, interested to make sure these can do higher res audio files? i'd been stuck on a 160 GB classic for a while.
 
The shuffle is a good product because of the price/size, but they should really want those customers to buy the watch instead. The nano makes no sense at all, that should be killed off for good. The only people I see buying an iPod touch these days is for kids who's parent's don't want to have cell phones. In that case they should change the focus away from a music player and more on communication (chat, FaceTime, social networking, etc), photos, and games. Maybe even add a built in game controller, a legit speaker, mic, camera, ect.
 
Because an iPhone > $700 and an iPod < $200
Exactly. Why spend money for phone features if I only want a portable music player and already have a phone.

iPods are mostly used by the younger age group
Or by people that already have a phone and just want to have their music collection in the pocket. I am still using an old 32 GB iPod Touch and love it. Would love to upgrade it to 128 GB. Even better if they gave it a camera similar to the iPhone6 camera.
 
I'm not against it but does it make sense to mount 64-bit CPU on an iPod?

Dear God, yes, it most definitely does. The current iPod Touch is a crippled product, with aging, slow internals and not enough memory. When it first came out, it was the iPhone minus a cellular radio and just as powerful. I am sure that ate into iPhone sales. So they have methodically neglected it...heck, even the nano had a camera and video (none gone, I should add) long before they gave it to the Touch, they were so fearful it might hurt an iPhone sale.

What is the iPod Touch used for? Same thing as the iPhone, minus on the road phone calls and using it as a GPS. 99% of what I use an iphone for I could do with an iPod Touch, including use as a camera. I rarely travel far and I rarely make phone calls on my iPhone.

I used it to make Skype phone calls in China. It was meant to be a music player and game device in one. I used to use it for mobile app design---I wouldn't touch the current model with a ten-foot finger, it is so slow and dated. It is now a bad music device and a bad game player, the latter needing lots of CPU and GPU oopmh. About time Apple stopped fearing cannibalizing the iPhone and just build the best product they can instead of going out of their way to build crippleware.
 
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Good design? Check. What would be senseable upgrade, oh yeah, storage!
Upgrades where it counts are years apart..They want to give us good products? Sure.. they also want to make an unseemly amount of money.
 
Well, yea. I have been staying with iOS 7 as it only drags a little and staying on Mavericks so Numbers will sync.... Looks like everybody will get a refresh. Lets hope they pushed the processor (I can dream) and did a decent upgrade of ram.

And I am sure it ate up 1.5 gigs of your storage, too, to stay with an older OS. Apple forces it to download and then leaves it there until you give in to reclaim all of the wasted space.
 
why do people still bother ipod when we having iphone - everything iphone can do that ipod do

Awesome! I will let you buy my son an iphone and pay for the monthly data plan that runs over $3K over the life of the contract. That makes you my bestest friend ever.

Being a bill payer with a mortgage, I plan on giving him an ipod touch and a craptastic fliphone that costs only $9/month and has no need for a data plan. He doesn't need a data plan. He doesn't even need the flipphone but his mother will scream if he couldn't make a phone call and is left in a gutter somewhere. I explained that is more likely to happen with a new iPhone -- they'd knock him down, steal it and run.
 
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