Most people don't use ExpressCard slots, and Apple is only dropping FW400, which is an aged piece of technology. Your point is self-contradictory. You say they're filled with last year's technology, but they're getting rid of old technology.
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Apples MacBook Pro: Rotting Core? What Apple Doesn't Want You To Realize.
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Most people don't use ExpressCard slots, and Apple is only dropping FW400, which is an aged piece of technology. Your point is self-contradictory. You say they're filled with last year's technology, but they're getting rid of old technology.
The old technology here would be old CPUs and GPUs. ExpressCard is not an old technology. What exactly has replaced it? It sure comes handy to those who use it now for USB 3.0.
How's that work? USB 3.0 bandwidth is 4.8GB/s, no? Isn't expresscard only 2.5GB/s?
USB 3.0 on ExpressCard is a stopgap solution. You'll get more bandwidth than you would over USB 2.0.
ExpressCard 2.0 is going to sport 5 Gb/s on a PCIe 2.0 lane.
My "rotting core" MBP has better geekbench results than any of the i5 mobiles have reported, and it even outscores some of the i7 quad cores.
Rotting core indeed.
Rotting core indeed.
Exactly. Frankly, though, USB 3.0 with enough lanes is a pretty decent substitute for expresscard for most purposes. I do use my expresscard slot for an aircard and for an sd card reader, but both of those would work just as well via usb.
Being a long-time Windows user, and also long-time Mac "admirer", I am looking to drop the coin on the new MBP when it eventually comes out.
I recently went to my local Harvey Norman store, and noticed all of the shiny new Vaio Z models. All I can say is WOW. The new machines are indeed very nice and they have seemed to improve the aesthetics of it. IMHO, the Z's are extremely stylish and for a businessman such as myself, I see myself looking more compatible with this type of laptop. Very stylish indeed.
Having said that, I really want to sink my teeth in a MBP for the first time. Having went to the Apple store today, I do believe that their customer service is great, considering the sales people look like "kids". (no offense)
Let's hope my first experience with a Mac is a pleasant one. (Bar waiting for the next refresh because I too am getting frustrated because I have more than enough coin to buy one now!
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I recently went to my local Harvey Norman store, and noticed all of the shiny new Vaio Z models. All I can say is WOW. The new machines are indeed very nice and they have seemed to improve the aesthetics of it. IMHO, the Z's are extremely stylish and for a businessman such as myself, I see myself looking more compatible with this type of laptop. Very stylish indeed.
Having said that, I really want to sink my teeth in a MBP for the first time. Having went to the Apple store today, I do believe that their customer service is great, considering the sales people look like "kids". (no offense)
Let's hope my first experience with a Mac is a pleasant one. (Bar waiting for the next refresh because I too am getting frustrated because I have more than enough coin to buy one now!
)I recently went to my local Harvey Norman store, and noticed all of the shiny new Vaio Z models. All I can say is WOW. The new machines are indeed very nice and they have seemed to improve the aesthetics of it. IMHO, the Z's are extremely stylish and for a businessman such as myself, I see myself looking more compatible with this type of laptop. Very stylish indeed.
Having said that, I really want to sink my teeth in a MBP for the first time. Having went to the Apple store today, I do believe that their customer service is great, considering the sales people look like "kids". (no offense)
Let's hope my first experience with a Mac is a pleasant one. (Bar waiting for the next refresh because I too am getting frustrated because I have more than enough coin to buy one now!
The Vaio's are nice. Sony have always been at the higher end of the build quality for PC Laptops, but in my opinion they still don't hit the mark that Macbook Pro's do. Plus, whichever way you slice it, unless you buy a Mac laptop, you won't be getting OSX, iLife and the support that goes with it, which is a big selling point for a lot of people.
I can understand the argument for better GPU's in the new line, but seriously the iX processors aren't that much quicker unless you're doing really computationally intensive stuff. And if you are are doing that sort of work, it's questionable how wise it is to do so for a prolonged period of time on a laptop because of the heat generated.
If I go for an upgrade once the new generation MBP's come out, I'm waiting a few months to see how they perform since it's new technology and needs to bed in for a while.
You have made my point. It is all about perception. By your own argument, unless form is more important over function, you should be buying a Sony.
Many people just like the UI of Apple's OS over Windows, so this is a huge selling point.
There are benefits to each. One benefit of Apple is you can setup in various ways to run Windows on the same machine where you cannot on a Windows machine, as far as I know.
Um....Check through this thread and you'll find I've been making this point many times over......Amongst other things, I wouldn't buy the Vaio because it doesn't come with OS X. I said this in my last post, so I don't really understand your point.
According to geekbench site, the best score for MacBook Pro is 4158.
You can find a score 5829 for i7 Q 720-based 15" HP Envy on the same site. This is 40% increase.
There is also 4452 score for i5 M 520-based Envy laptop.
What Intel doesn't want you to realize...
My 17" 3.06 scored 4616-- slower than the i7s, but faster than the i5s. And unlike the quad-core i7s, I actually have some battery life. Also, there's no apparent plan to even use the QM series i7s in the MBP, so it's kind of irrelevant.
http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/229384
My 17" 3.06 scored 4616-- slower than the i7s, but faster than the i5s. And unlike the quad-core i7s, I actually have some battery life. Also, there's no apparent plan to even use the QM series i7s in the MBP, so it's kind of irrelevant.
http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/229384
You probably have Core 2 Duo 3.06Ghz CPU. Fastest Arrandale chips are equally fast but consume less power. Geekbench is probably not geek enough to show the difference. Detailed comparison of the two chips is available here. Besides with hyperthreading i5s have big advantage for multi-threaded applications.
LOL fair comparison then. i move my 15" MBP around no problems. never tried with a 17" though so i cant really give any appropriate input.
the 17" is a "portable" desktop i guess, so you're right in some regards. and it is slight underpowered then a lot of desktops (only just).
logically, you seem correct
LOL fair comparison then. i move my 15" MBP around no problems. never tried with a 17" though so i cant really give any appropriate input.
the 17" is a "portable" desktop i guess, so you're right in some regards. and it is slight underpowered then a lot of desktops (only just).
logically, you seem correct
The 17" is not all that big. And since the innards are the same as the 15" (or can be) it's kind of an irrelevant argument.
All compared against the older, 2.53GHz C2D. Not particularly relevant to my comparison with a 3.06.
Also, with regard to power, TDP for both processors is 35W. And since the Intel IGP is a step down from the 9400M, you'd be more likely to use the power-sucking discrete GPU in the Arrandale.
that's higher than any i5 mobile out there? I can't really find many with a 64 bit OS.
I couldn't find a single i5 M series processor that outscored the T9900. Might have missed one but they don't exactly leap out on the geekbench search.