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iPhone Air is built like a Tesla on the outside with the interior features of a Hyundai Accent!
 
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It's weird to me that AT&T would give me a regular or Pro (not Max) for $0/mo w/ trade-in (13 Pro), but I would have had to pay monthly for the Air. I went with the Pro, though I regret not getting the regular.
 
It was a nice try but they really need to just cut that line. Mini, plus, now this. All sales bombs? Just do regular and pro max. That’s all that is needed.
Except an earlier article indicated iPhone Air stock sold out in China…

I for one think Apple should continue to make phones like this, even if they aren’t the top seller. While many, if not most don’t want this form factor, there are some who do and love it. I want those people to have the option, all while Apple gets to “play” with new form factors and designs. These models are kind of like sandboxes for Apple, allowing them to test new designs to see what works before potentially bringing those to flagship devices.
 
Anyways why we all going hysterical about this. Japan's Mizuho Securities only said what they believe. I mean they can believe whatever they want. I am sure they are having a good old laugh at our reactions here.
 
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I understand why people would choose another phone, but it doesn’t make sense to me why so many people seem to actively hate that the Air exists? Are you afraid Apple is going to take away your brick phones?
It's cute that you think the Air isn't also a "brick phone". It's the same type of phone. Just because its slightly thinner and slightly lighter, doesn't make it any less of a brick.
 
Americans are hooked on BIG. It’s their divine right or something.

Honey, let's go to Costco!

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I guess it depends upon your definition of good or bad product?

I think "how it sells" and/or "does it sell enough" is a component of a product being good or bad or "good enough".

I don't know how we could argue otherwise.

A product has to sell successfully enough, otherwise it's at least somewhat of a bad product in that the right choices weren't made to make the product successful enough in the market.
You define an overpriced product as a bad product. That is an arguable position, but I prefer to be more specific and describe the Air as a good product priced so high as to reduce demand. And of course we do not know what sales are, other than that sales appear to be less than planned for.
 
Still rocking a 15 Pro Max here, but this is interesting - Of all the 2026 iPhones, the Air is the only one I'm interested in.

I suppose what's stopping me is the camera system. If they could get the Pro cameras into the Air, then I'd be all over that.

I traded in my 16 Pro Max for the Air and have never regretted it. (I've been a pro max/plus user for a while). I realized I ultimately don't use all the camera features to have to deal with the weight tradeoffs. Even a single camera is crazy good these days.

Being able to go places and barely even know my phone is with me is pretty great. Haven't had a problem with the battery life at all. Still wild at how big the screen is for something so thin.

Everyone has different usecases though, but I'm thankful Apple made this.
 
Just think of all the money apple have spent on failed projects. This could have gone to better places.
 
For $200 more than the base 17, the Air gets you only 6.4% more screen area, saves only 12 grams, and does add the "pro" cpu (noticeable?). But weaker battery (major negative), no 0.5" camera, lesser speaker. IMO, should only be maybe $50 more than the base 17.
I think as well, the base memory on the Air is 12GB like the Pro, up from 8GB used by base 17. I don't know if that's because of extra computing needed for the slightly thicker camera system in play with a singular lense, but that extra RAM could either offer some more performance option, or on the negative, provide a bit more of a battery drain.
 
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You define an overpriced product as a bad product. That is an arguable position, but I prefer to be more specific and describe the Air as a good product priced so high as to reduce demand. And of course we do not know what sales are, other than that sales appear to be less than planned for.
iPhone Air would have sold better at $699 instead of $999. Yet Apple overplayed their hand like usual!
 
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I didn’t check all of the carrier trade in deals, but AT&T only offered $830 off the air instead of $800 or $1100 for the 17 and 17 pro, respectively. It’s actually the more expensive option; maybe not by much, but maybe enough to make the tradeoffs work more against it.

My 17 pro max’s zoom is better than expected, but I could live without it. Losing the .5x lens means losing macro mode, though, which is a much bigger problem for me. Minimum focal distance is apparently less on the Air than the Pro’s main camera, but not by enough. If the main camera could do macro that might make up for it, but I’m guessing there’s a reason it’s only on the 0.5x camera.
 
The Air is completely useless to me due to the lack of that ultra-wide camera for macro photography.

If they hadn’t sacrificed that? I just might have went for an Air. As it is, I’ll never buy one as it currently stands.

Great phone, but I do too much close up photo taking to lose what even the base 17 can do.
 
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