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This. Are we positive Apple isn't already using IGZO on the new MBPs?

I don't know how they'd claim a 30% energy reduction for the new display while at the same time upping the max brightness to 500nits and giving it a P3 color gamut if it was using the same old manufacturing tech as before. The article even goes on to say IGZO offers greater benefits like higher brightness and wider color gamut...
That'd be a fail for this article/rumor...
 
"possibly with 32GB of RAM"

Are users of the current models noticing a lack of RAM making a significant difference to expected performance? If so this is a welcome possibility.

Quite simply, no.

Yes.

Stacking 100, 36 MP images and editing huge Photoshop files with multiple layers can be very RAM intensive. Most people won't see much of a benefit from 32 GB RAM but I would love to see that in my laptop. My next desktop will have significantly more than 32.
 
Does that mean that the current release is using a substandard display?

Probably something to do with rushing an unfinished product to market.
 
Sighh.... that is sadly true. If they care so much about battery life, make a little thicker for more battery capacity or more ports. But they will relegate the MacBook Pro to the thinnest and sexiest dongle hub.

Steve always said that we don't know what we want until Apple shows us. That used to be true (for the most part), but is no longer true. Pros favor functionality over external looks and especially...thinness:mad:.

Keep the MBA and MB for experiments in thinness but please don't hamstring ports, magsafe, and other features Pros love in lieu of the maniacal pursuit of turning the MBP into a 2 dimensional product.
 
Based on all the rumored updates with new Kaby Lake Processors, IGZO Glass and who knows what else, I should return my 2016 MacBook Pro while I still can.

My philosophy has always been...never purchase the first-gen version of a new product category or product redesign from Apple, always wait for the second-gen or newer. I did that recently with my Watch and got the proper water resistance, GPS and brighter display that I wanted, but was not realized when the first-gen version was released. Its also why I'm waiting for a fifth-gen (or second-gen of the redesign) TV with the 4K and HDR capabilities the current version should of had!
 
Yes, PLEASE, 32 GB of RAM and I'll buy one. For that very reason I'll just kept my MB Pro (Late 2013) with 16GB RAM, 2.6 GHz i7 and 1 TB SSD internal....

Logic Pro & LOTS of soft synths, samples, plug-ins....need the GHz speed and the RAM.
 
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slightly faster Kaby Lake processors unveiled this week

Very slightly. The reviews are not very kind with the i7 Kaby Lake... it's a "micro-tick" upgrade at best.
Oh well, every tick counts. Especially when there haven't been ticks for years :rolleyes:
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No way dude, wait until 2018 since there will be an even better MacBook Pro.

Actually scratch that, I hear 2019 is where it's at.
If history repeats you can rest for at least 3 years, relax.
 
IGZO is a semiconducting material that has forty times more electron mobility than the standard a-Si used as the active layer of an LCD screen, allowing for less power consumption, improved touch sensitivity, and increased pixel density, which could pave the way for higher resolution displays.
Why does touch sensitivity matter for a MacBook Pro? Either the material switch is happening for the other benefits of IGZO or they have a touch screen laptop in the pipeline.

Personally, I don't give a rat's patootie about a touch screen MBP but there are those who do. I don't even care about higher resolution; the current Retina display is called that because we've reached resolution density of the human retina (imagine developing a speaker which is "better" because is produces frequencies above 20,000 Hz). I'll take longer battery life, though.
 
I am starting to think waiting for the next MBP update was a good idea.
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Does that mean that the current release is using a substandard display?

Probably something to do with rushing an unfinished product to market.

No best they could do give at the time, but not as good as they can do in the future.
 
THANK GOD LG is NOT making these displays

Take their ****** image retention trash and never put it in a Mac again!
 
Apple will never do a double redesign in the same year, so no thinners macbook pro later this year
You won't see a body redesign for another 4 years. This will all be internal. And I doubt they would make massive memory upgrades 4-6 months in.
 
kaby lake cpu are very important for codec support, so we will get battery life only from that, not to mention IGZO tehn+larger battery since we will have native TB3 support, so alpine bridge are removed=+extra 2h battery i suppose into the next update
 
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This, along with the new battery structure and better efficiency, will solve battery life issues but it probably won't be able to compete with the battery life of newer Windows notebooks.

No it won't. THe battery life issues are drivers or firmware that has gone wonky. If it was predictable battery consumption then it would be easily repeatable, it's not though. So stating that the display and the battery configuration is going to solve the battery complaints is wrong. Flat out.
 
And yet they will. There will be some reason they don't want to upgrade next time, just like the time before, and the time before. It'll be that they aren't using the right Kaby Lake or the price didn't drop like they expected, or this or that. There's always an excuse and complaints.

There has never been a single Apple product released which MR didn't complain up a storm about. Not one.

I don't find your point compelling as a critic of the new MBP. I have a 2010 and a 2012 version. I'm ready for a new one. I ordered three iMacs for my drones at work. I'm not happy with any general product Apple cares to trot out. Waiting as little longer for something with a better screen and battery life isn't a bad idea. I've also noticed that some of Apples models were arguably better purchases than others. iPad 2 and iPad Air 2 are a couple I think really lasted long in terms of value/function.

Anyway, yes people will always complain, but that doesn't mean their critiques aren't warranted.
 
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the machine I'm defecting to - the 2017 Spectre x360

That's a good laptop, and one of the few Windows machines that I find at all impressive. Definitely not the average! They claim 12 hours like the last model, which seemed to get 10 hours actual, which is way better than most (or all?) other Windows laptops. It also maxes out at 16gb ram just like the macs.

I'm not disagreeing with you, that's a great laptop, but most Windows laptops do have much worse battery life, especially the ones with a lot more ram or Nvidia GPUs, etc.
 
It's tempting, but these aren't really unbelievable updates. The 2016 vs 2015 is an exponentially bigger update than just adding Kaby Lake and this screen tech imo, and there are people buying 2015 over 2016...
Umm - have you actually compared the 2015 and 2016 models? 2015 is a far better buy for the majority of users.
 
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"possibly with 32GB of RAM"

Are users of the current models noticing a lack of RAM making a significant difference to expected performance? If so this is a welcome possibility.

I don't have a 2016 MBP, but I regularly max out the 16gig of RAM on a 2015 and about 20gig of RAM on a MP. The 16gig limit on the 2016 MBP is one reason I'm avoiding it.
 
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