Quite the opposite.
You are trying to impose your meaning of "battery technology" which only exists in your mind.
If not, then link to some third party definition that supports your claim.
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You are trying to impose your meaning of "battery technology" which only exists in your mind.
If not, then link to some third party definition that supports your claim.
@sinsin07 and @macTW, knock it off, you are making fools out of yourself 
Battery tech was the first way to generate electricity and so of course predates headphone jacks. But the 3.5mm jack predates current (as in Li-ion) battery tech by a long shot.
None of this matters, though. A laptop without battery doesn't make sense and not even Apple will be dumb enough to try. The removal of the 3.5mm jack was singularily moronic otoh.
Battery tech was the first way to generate electricity and so of course predates headphone jacks. But the 3.5mm jack predates current (as in Li-ion) battery tech by a long shot.
None of this matters, though. A laptop without battery doesn't make sense and not even Apple will be dumb enough to try. The removal of the 3.5mm jack was singularily moronic otoh.
I do and for that reason had to buy Asus gaming notebook last year for running VMs for PoC demonstrations for my prospective customers. I have thought about moving the PoC VMs to the cloud but patchy/no connectivity at the airports and when I am travelling doesn't help. So if it's remote, I wouldn't be able to build customised PoCs on the go.
I was really hoping that Apple would release 32GB model so that I can reduce the form factor and still have a usable work laptop but might have to wait for another year.
That's flawed logic, most new windows laptops have USB C interfaces already, but the manufacturers don't have their heads as far up their ports as Apple. Many devices with standard USB, thunderbolt and HDMI connectors are themselves the latest kit, and many older devices just work and don't need replacing. There's nothing shameful about using something that works. Are you going to throw out all your old hard external drives because they have an "outdated" USB connection? You probably throw out a good shirt because it's not the right shade of apricot. As for buying from a company I hate, I don't like Intel so that doesn't leave me much choice.
Exactly what I was saying lol. Except the moronic removal part - I don't think removing eventually is bad, for the sake of technology and advancement/simplification, but people didn't except the rough transition and refusal to accept new technology.@sinsin07 and @macTW, knock it off, you are making fools out of yourself
Battery tech was the first way to generate electricity and so of course predates headphone jacks. But the 3.5mm jack predates current (as in Li-ion) battery tech by a long shot.
None of this matters, though. A laptop without battery doesn't make sense and not even Apple will be dumb enough to try. The removal of the 3.5mm jack was singularily moronic otoh.
Apple is now a fashion company more than it is a tech company. It's like, "OMG I can't believe you have a USB port, you're such a square, they're so OLD. Oh and my pocket full of dongles bulges out more than yours, ha ha, how will anyone find your measly empty pocket attractive - it's so yesterday."
Let's call it "USB-C smugness". It's like Mac Elitism, but with USB-C.
Also, I think I caught it when I received my 2016 MBP. Perhaps it's contagious?
Don't worry, they got a head start on recouping the R&D costs from everyone who bought the current iteration.
Many new Windows laptops have USB-C, but I'm not sure it's most yet. That said, Apple clearly is trying to promote USB-C as being a replacement for USB-A, and not just another port. It was the same when USB-A came out. Remember serial, parallel, PS/2 keyboard and mouse ports on Windows PCs back then, as well as ADB and SCSI on the Mac side? Apple went all-in with USB-A. By February 2000 the PowerBook had dropped legacy port support (and was exclusively USB and Firewire). They are doing the same now.
The idea is that most older devices will work using an adapter (and most people won't need more than one or two). As those peripherals are eventually replaced, the new devices will use USB-C. It makes a lot of sense. Otherwise we wind up like on the Windows side where new PCs continue to ship with outdated ports like VGA.
Yes and no. VGA is not outdated if you work in an office with a projector that requires VGA, although admittedly that's rare now. HDMI is still going strong however with the next iteration coming out now supporting 10K, so why did they drop it? It will be many years before the presentation equipment in most institutions is updated to something new, and it may well not be USB C since there's no compelling reason for it. No, the reason Apple is doing this is money.
I doubt MacBook profits even push the needle in terms of Apple profits. This is about iPhone sales and possible iPads. We have reached peak iPhone in terms of sales and market share gains. Something else has to pick up the slack in terms of growth and it sure isn't going to be macs.
No, if it were solely about money Apple would have adopted a proprietary port. USB-C is an industry standard port that supports HDMI signals natively, and there is no requirement to use an Apple adapter. Apple stores do not aggressively push add-on sales of adapters.Just get a USB-C to HDMI cable (the USB-IF recently approved a standard protocol for cables). And now you don't even need to buy a proprietary charger if you need a replacement or want a second. Any charger and cable conforming to the USB power delivery standard will work.
And VGA is pretty outdated. It maxes out at 1920x1200 and produces inconsistent results.
My predictions are always wrong, but in 18 months time, with any luck, you might find you don't want to buy a Macbook Pro 15. If Windows fixes its pathetic power efficiency performance on Intel machines (not that hard I wouldn't think) and universalises its OS across devices (a bit harder perhaps) then Apple will have to be a bit less cocky about its prices and connectivity decisions.
In 18 months USB-C will be ubiquitous. Most premium Android phones use it now. Thunderbolt 3 and USB-C 3.1 Gen 2 are great interfaces for external hard drives. Things like printers and scanners are wireless now (and a new cable or adapter aren't significant expenses for physical hookups).
The dongles are temporary, but make for a rough transition. Personally, I'm on the "I agree with the decisions of USB C and no headphone jack... but will wait a few years to adopt when other companies gear production towards them."
More likely two years, or 1.5 at least. Kaby Lake has the same restrictions on LPDDR3 as does Skylake - so there's a chance you'll have to wait till 2018.
See below where your foolishness begins.
Yeah like this was already mentioned and can be confirmed by third party sources, so your confirmation is meaningless.
The goal post was set here:
It says "battery technology" and that is the only issue in dispute.
Don't move the goal post.
No where in the original post quoted does it mention Li-ion.
Battery technology is battery technology no matter the method and the original OP was incorrect.
Before you resort to insinuating people making fools of themselves perhaps you should investigate what you are responding to before you fall in your own foolish response.
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I just bought the new MBP and iPP and the only thing that would get me to upgrade again would be OLED or OLED-like displays, capable of perfect blacks. That's the only flaw with Apple's displays right now imo. They will have to have some special tech to combat the burn in though, at least if they go with traditional OLED.
once in a while i am getting a chance to see this kind honest relevant posts. always rants these days in macrumors.
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How is IGZO with uniformity? Every time Apple switches screen technologies it makes me nervous
Ipad Air has the same kind of display..may be you can check it out..relax, apple already have IGZO iteration in one of their devices.
Done. You've chosen to show stupidity instead of a willingness to actually think.
Do you call scientific advancements ancient because they first occurred centuries ago? Battery technology is the exact same thing - the technology in the battery. That has changed incredibly ever since the 3.5 mm jack was last updated (let alone came out).
I'm done. You clearly choose to define your own words and be too blind to understand how the real world defines them.
Something is telling me I should have waited for the second iteration
This is good advice for almost any new version of an apple product.
Hardcore MacRumour Pros?
They need 64GB to keep all their baby whining tabs open without Safari reloading the page.
The most exciting thing here for me would be the potential for more pixels at the same or better battery life.
The MBP still isnt even close to being a Retina version of the highest pre-Retina 17" display available.
Macbook Pro w/ 3840x2400px Retina display plz!
(retina version of the 'ole 17"!)
The MBP still isnt even close to being a Retina version of the highest pre-Retina 17" display available.
Macbook Pro w/ 3840x2400px Retina display plz!
(retina version of the 'ole 17"!)