Apple Saw No Change in iPad Sales Following Kindle Fire Introduction

[ixodes]

Comparing an iPad to a Fire is inappropriate.

Other than form factor which loosely qualifies both as tablets, they're two different devices. Aimed at different target markets, there's plenty of demand for each.

It's a non issue to the informed buyer. The great majority of my friends & associates own both.

 

[voonyx]

How is it one of a kind? You have the Xoom 2, Asus Transformer and Prime, Galaxy tab 10.1 and 7 in and never mind Toshiba tablet along with others.

Apple tablet market share has been and can only go in one direction as competition is coming out. Apple is running scared as the lawsuits prove.

I know when I sell 15million of the products I make, I'm terrified....

 

[JAT]

Well thanks! I guess I didn't consider shopping at Walmart automatically made me a low quality person, but now I do. So any other people out there brave enough to admit shopping at Walmart? Come on there has to be at least one other person on here.

Question what exactly is the difference between an iPad bought at Walmart and an iPad bought in an Apple Store? Just curious.

I will admit I stopped shopping at Walmart. Corporate policies mostly, but I will also admit the one near me is a good example of why people mock those that shop at Walmart. No interest in setting foot in there, again.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

https://www.macrumors.com/2012/01/2...6-billion-profit-on-46-33-billion-in-revenue/

I don't see a whole lotta fright there.

And that has what to do with what I said. Are we going to now have to deal with you posting crap like that for the next few months.
If apple was not scared then why this endless string of lawsuits with crapents like slide out unlock. They are suing samsung over the Galaxy nexus with that one currently and tried and failed to sue HTC with it as well.
Apple is going to court with crapents because it is running scared and wants to maintain there high profits.

 

[Getitdone]

Makes sense, it's a different market, really.

I totally agree. I know of at least ten 11-12 year olds who received a Kindle Fire for Christmas and the majority of them also have either iPod Touches or iPhones as well. They seem to continue to use both their Fires and Pods/Phones for different things.

I know of only 1 adult who received a Fire - and she loves it.

And, I know of about 15 adults who received iPads for Christmas. All love them although so many have no idea how much more they could get out of it. But that's no swipe against them - it's their iPad and as long as they're happy all is good. I help them out with little tips and ideas when they ask.

Totally different markets.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

I will admit I stopped shopping at Walmart. Corporate policies mostly, but I will also admit the one near me is a good example of why people mock those that shop at Walmart. No interest in setting foot in there, again.

I felt dirty every time I set foot in walmart. Last time was 9 months ago because I need some glue and tap at 2am and it was the only place around here open that sold what I needed. Like you I try to avoid walmart at almost all cost.

 

[Dmunjal]

Apple's market share will likely fall over time but the overall market is growing so fast that Apple can still grow as fast as it can build it's products.

 

[linux2mac]

How is it one of a kind? You have the Xoom 2, Asus Transformer and Prime, Galaxy tab 10.1 and 7 in and never mind Toshiba tablet along with others.

Apple tablet market share has been and can only go in one direction as competition is coming out. Apple is running scared as the lawsuits prove.

Don't forget Ballmer says, "We're Coming Full Guns.". I think Cook, Ive, and Co. are trembling.

Seriously, crapdroids and Windows 8 tablet with a clunky fan???

Awesome joke!!

 

[voonyx]

And that has what to do with what I said. Are we going to now have to deal with you posting crap like that for the next few months.
If apple was not scared then why this endless string of lawsuits with crapents like slide out unlock. They are suing samsung over the Galaxy nexus with that one currently and tried and failed to sue HTC with it as well.
Apple is going to court with crapents because it is running scared and wants to maintain there high profits.

What are they scared of?

 

[X38]

"Cook finished by saying Apple was going to "continue to innovate like crazy""

I sure wish they'd innovate a file browser app with a shared file space for other apps and a pointer for use with an external mouse...

 

[fertilized-egg]

I know when I sell 15million of the products I make, I'm terrified....

I think it's an interesting thing though. It seems to me the Steve Jobs 2 era Apple has always been running scared. Not that they are really scared literally, but that Apple always try to stay lean and nimble as a company while staying aggressive and try to avoid getting disrupted. I feel it's a hall mark of the new Apple that differentiated them from others and probably stemmed from surviving that near death situation. This probably also explains their cash hoarding in part.

 

[the8thark]

The next generation iPad 3 with a high-resolution Retina Display is expected to be introduced in the next few months.

No it is not. Stop the lying BS. The iPad will be introduced then shipped for sale whenever Apple feels it is ready. It might be in a few months, it could be longer. The only thing that IS expected is we who do not work for Apple have no idea when it will be introduced then shipped for sale.

 

[Vizin]

.

 

[Navdakilla]

People buying a Kindle Fire wanted a tablet but were not really considering the iPad purely because of price.

exactly, they just want something cheap and just like the iPad, even though it can't even compare

 

[mdriftmeyer]

$99 HP, $199 Fire's... people looking for iPad don't bother comparing a color ereader with the iPad. Two entirely different tablets, and from using a Fire over the holidays it's clear the $199 hype is why they sold some. It's the same jittery sad Android experience I've seen and used on the Xoom, Tab, Transformer etc... It's a shame someone besides Apple doesn't build a quality OS, because Android is becoming more and more of a joke every time a new quad core, +++ memory, video etc... chip comes out and it's still a turd on a tablet.

iPad sales will drop when Apple stops making them. The rest of the hardware manufactures need to find a new OS as Google will just lay the blame on the hardware or continue to label it "beta" for the rest of it's life. I don't know if Win 8 will help the other manufacturers but right now with a new tablet or phone coming out weekly, it's apparent they just keeping throwing $h@t at the wall hoping to sell a few thousand gadgets and not go broke in the process.

Apple Engineering has been building Operating Systems for over 30 years and has the top brains in the industry. Google even has some of those Apple/NeXT alumni to help them out. It take a long time to do operating systems well.

FreeBSD and OS X have a long and bright future ahead of them.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

exactly, they just want something cheap and just like the iPad, even though it can't even compare

Remember for many things the iPad is massive over kill for what they want to use it for. For surfing the Internet, checking email and watch movies the fire is great and the iPad is overkill for.

The fire is a great consumption device. Apple is good at getting people to buy more than they need or want with something that is overkill.

 

[the8thark]

It is expected. What you seem to be saying is there's no official evidence that it will happen. You don't seem to understand the definition of "expected".

I do. There is evidence iPad 3 will come. Will it come in one month, or two months or 3 months or more? No one knows.

The iPad 3 IS expected to be released.
The iPad 3 is NOT expected to be released in a few months.

Simply cause no one apart from Apple knows the release schedule. And there is no concrete evidence pointing to a release date. It's only educated guesses from the public. So there is a difference here.

 

[Jessica Lares]

I own a Kindle Fire and I have ICS on it now with the Adobe Touch apps suite. It works great with them. Android apps are getting better, slower than on the iOS side, but it's happening.

I also shop at Wal-Mart and think people should feel ashamed for what they're saying. Sometimes you can't afford to pay the $2 extra at Target and/or Kroger, or to waste the extra gas just to drive all the way to the other side of town to get there. You guys need to get out more, see that different types of people exist everywhere.

And as an iPhone 4 owner, I don't need another iOS device that's pretty much the same exact thing, but bigger. It runs most of the same apps anyway.

 

[linuxcooldude]

The fire is a great consumption device. Apple is good at getting people to buy more than they need or want with something that is overkill.

iPad, overkill?!? I would say that very subjective. I might agree with you if you were talking the Mac Pro.

A grown man or woman that can't control what they spend their money on is their own fault, not Apples.

 

[PeterQVenkman]

I felt dirty every time I set foot in walmart. Last time was 9 months ago because I need some glue and tap at 2am and it was the only place around here open that sold what I needed. Like you I try to avoid walmart at almost all cost.

Every time someone bashes Walmart and I think about defending it, I remember this:

Every time I go there to pick up things that are super cheap, I end up losing so much time trying to just make it through the checkout line that it isn't worth it. I'll spend more to be able to go through checkout in less than 40 minutes.

That place is a time vampire. Each visit brings new bizarre sights to terrify and amaze.

The last time I was there late at night (thinking I'll avoid the crowds) there was an unmanned customer service counter back by the phones and electronics. The phone at the counter was ringing. It rang the entire time I was there. You could hear it clear across the store in every department. It just sat there, ignored. I imagined some hapless employee in the store dialed that number to get a price check while a customer waited.

Walmart is the haunted house of retail stores.

 

[heisetax]

Then you're clearly a low-quality person.

I guess that means that the iPad 2 is low-quality if it is sold at Wal-Mart.

 

[heisetax]

Comparing an iPad to a Fire is inappropriate.

Other than form factor which loosely qualifies both as tablets, they're two different devices. Aimed at different target markets, there's plenty of demand for each.

It's a non issue to the informed buyer. The great majority of my friends & associates own both.

Finally someone else see that their target market are in different areas.

I'm still only used our iPad to read emails & read Kindle ebooks. It sounds like I may really just need a Kindle or Kindle Fire. Except picture books just a regular Kindle would do enough.

 

[JGowan]

How do I get my movies and music on a Fire? And don't say Amazon Cloud. Can I use my Mac or not? I have 60GB of music and about 500 GB of movies to be managing so don't say their Cloud Locker is my only option!

 

[Ryth]

Finally someone else see that their target market are in different areas.

I'm still only used our iPad to read emails & read Kindle ebooks. It sounds like I may really just need a Kindle or Kindle Fire. Except picture books just a regular Kindle would do enough.

They arent really different markets...the Fire is trying to take on the iPad. Thats tablet experience vs tablet experience.

The Kindle/Nook are not trying to take on the iPad. eReader vs Tablet there. That is a different market. E-reader vs full tablet experience.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Finally someone else see that their target market are in different areas.

I'm still only used our iPad to read emails & read Kindle ebooks. It sounds like I may really just need a Kindle or Kindle Fire. Except picture books just a regular Kindle would do enough.

I would say for just reading ebooks that are text the Kindle is by far better than the iPad. The iPad I honestly find is a bit painful to read text for a long time on. Its pixel density is not the great for the distance I hold something I am reading away from my eyes. My galaxy tab while the pixel density is better it runs into another problem that the iPad suffers from as well and that is it is an back lite screen and has those problems of an back lite screen rear its head. This along with both devices are on the heavy side for reading.
If I want to read a ebook I generally will grab my kindle and read it on there. I find it is the closest to reading on paper and as such the easiest on my eyes and in terms of reading plus it is a hell of a lot lighter than either the iPad or Galaxy Tab 10.1.

And yes I do use all 3 devices on a semi regular bases.