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Apple Saw No Change in iPad Sales Following Kindle Fire Introduction
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Why are you comparing Apple to Oranges?
What on earth has a iPhone 4S got to do with a Kindle Fire?
You may as well put:
Brick > Orange
You are absolutely correct. The Fire isn't a tablet at all, but an e-reader.
I agree - it was a big mistake for Cook to use the term "limited function tablets" - it elevates the competition above e-reader status undeservedly.
In my opinion my five burner gas oven is better than my bagel toaster which is the same as your completly dishonest comparison of a 600 dollar phone to a 200 dollar tablet (btw the bigger screen size of the fire is much better for viewing movies).
maybe he need to have used the 99.9 percent statement. Since you of course are the exemption to the rule. I have never really seen Walmart as been that less expensive then other places I shop but then I don't buy cheap or need to worry about things as money all the time.
Walmart is cool in my book they give the population somewhere where they can afford the great Chinese products, I can't imagine what people would do without it.
Ok, did you really try to call someone out for "posting crap" while you're using silly hyperbole like "running scared" and made up words like "crapents"?
Well everyone is always fixated about how the next bloatware beta tablet will beat the iPad so it makes sense us who know better find it amusing.
Google OS is fine, just look at Fire. After look at the bloatware garbage MS is making I think most will stay with Google at least they are consistent. Company are to lazy and mentally unable to move away from quarter to quarter thinking to compete with Apple that has Jobs DNA of looking at things in the long run. Just look at how many AppleTV where sold recently. Not bad for something Apple did not push heavily. I wonder what the next version will bring to make us drool again.
Well thanks! I guess I didn't consider shopping at Walmart automatically made me a low quality person, but now I do.
Put it this way: Not everyone who shops at WalMart is "low quality". But if you are...you shop at WalMart, not Target or elsewhere.
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I'd imagine Amazon thought so, as their page for the Fire used a bunch of quotes comparing it to the iPad.
I'm not sure I'd consider Target high end.
Seriously though if we start judging people on where they shop what does that say about us? Where I live there is little choice. We have a pretty nice Walmart and a well kept older Kmart, but that's it for discount department stores. Either shop at those or drive 50 miles one way every time you want to shop.Well...not anymore, since it was shown that it can't compete...now all of a sudden it's apples to oranges. Convenient how that ALWAYS seems to happen
Yeah...i especially like their product description: Vibrant color touchscreen with extra-wide viewing angle - same as an iPad
But yeah, no guys this was never meant to compete with the iPad, they just mention iPad in their own copy...
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It IS expected in the next couple of months. That doesn't mean it WILL come in that time frame. It only means the judging by past actions, most people expect it in the next couple of months. Most people, just not you apparently. But it IS expected.
Apple will Dominate...
If Apple introduces the iPad3 w/ Retina for $500 and drops the iPad2 to $300 they will utterly dominate the market! Who would want a barebones Kindle for $200 when they could get a full-fledged iPad2 for $300?
Knowing Apple though they'll probably only drop the iPad2 to $400 and release the iPad3 at the $600 level. Still not too bad (given the quality and ecosystem) but wouldn't crush the competitors as much as the $300/500 pricing.
If Apple introduces the iPad3 w/ Retina for $500 and drops the iPad2 to $300 they will utterly dominate the market! Who would want a barebones Kindle for $200 when they could get a full-fledged iPad2 for $300?
Knowing Apple though they'll probably only drop the iPad2 to $400 and release the iPad3 at the $600 level.
Still not too bad (given the quality and ecosystem) but wouldn't crush the competitors as much as the $300/500 pricing.
maybe he need to have used the 99.9 percent statement. Since you of course are the exemption to the rule. I have never really seen Walmart as been that less expensive then other places I shop but then I don't buy cheap or need to worry about things as money all the time.
Walmart is cool in my book they give the population somewhere where they can afford the great Chinese products, I can't imagine what people would do without it.
Great Chinese products like the iPod and iPad?
And who knows what Apple's market share would be like without *******s who think that owning a product or shopping at a store immediately puts them on a higher pedestal than others, muddying up the image of said product due to its owners.
Thinking about it, this is actually rather funny. Or cynical, depending on how you look at it.
No tablet platform is more limited and restricted than iOS, and almost no tablet has less interfaces than the iPad. Almost every other product has USB- and sd-card-ports and allows access to its filesystem without iTunes-style "synchronization" crutches - or forces the user to send himself zillions of emails in order to retrieve a document.
The truth is that it is the iPad that is a limited function tablet.
The iPad 2's current (estimated, obviously) Bill of Materials cost is probably around $300.
Many things may happen in the next few months, but one thing you will NOT see is Apple selling a product like an iPad at a loss or break-even. You might see them offering some discounts to clear out channel inventory in the time between the iPad 3 announcement and it going on sale.
Please don't make the comparison with the iPhone 3GS that are currently being sold. These are still heavily subsidized by the mobile phone carriers.
Lastly, I think Apple will be making a very big mistake if they raise the entry price point of the iPad 3 to the $600 level. This will mean a "top of the line" 64gB (or 128gB!) unit with 3G will be perilously close to $1000 at retail. Apple wants to stay away from that price point with the iPad. Too close the price of a MacBook Air - or one of the many competing "UltraBooks" that are now showing up in stores.
Well said!
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Dude, are you offended? Go to an apple store and have some fun!
Fortunately for Apple all those of those have been mediocre in sales compared to the iPad and more than one has perhaps had heavy returns that then flipped to iPad sales.
That the iPad and not something like the Xoom is the go to for schools wanting to convert to electronic texts, the go to for those airline flight books etc, hasn't hurt either
Very well. Your thoughts explain why apple is doing so bad. Apple customers (new and old customers) know and sense value when they get an iOs device in their hands. Froid crapware? Not so much.
Apple isn't suing folks at any higher a rate than they are being sued or that other boys are suing each other. We are just hearing about Apple more because it's the best hit fodder.
The lawsuits have nothing to do with fear and simply that they are a part of how the IP game is played. You may think it was stupid that they got a patent on whatever but they did. And now that they have it there are certain moves they have to make to keep it. So they are. They would make those moves if they were the top of the ladder and confident or scared, or the bottom of the ladder trying to move up. Simply because it is the game
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That's the key. Apple's share isn't falling and very possibly won't fall due to lower sales. But a larger market as more folks trying to come out with something that grabs sales. With the Fire it was from folks that might not have ever gotten an iPad because the key thing they wanted was an ereader. So get a tablet you have to add an ereader when that's what you want and you can get an ereader that has a couple of nifty tablet things you might use also, and is half the price of that 'real' tablet. There's easily a few hundred thousand to a million folks that might feel that way and will get a Fire. But without the Fire they were just going to keep reading paper books or get a regular Kindle. The iPad was never a thought for them
Anyone recall the thread a few months back that introduced the Kindle Fire at $199 and all the anti-Apple folks were boasting that the Kindle Fire would put a dent in iPad sales? How did that work out again?
Check out this story a week before X-mas. Hmmmm.....yup that garbage is flying off the shelves just like folks lining up for a crapdroid at a cell phone store.
If Amazon's Kindle Fire is so hot, why is it still in stock?
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/12/19/if-amazons-kindle-fire-is-so-hot-why-is-it-still-in-stock/
BTW - Don't forget the same folks were boasting about the Windows 8 tablet in the Windows 8 thread a few months back too. I wonder how that will play out once the Win 8 tablet with clunky fan is released? ROFLMAO!
Check out this story a week before X-mas. Hmmmm.....yup that garbage is flying off the shelves just like folks lining up for a crapdroid at a cell phone store.
If Amazon's Kindle Fire is so hot, why is it still in stock?
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/12/19/if-amazons-kindle-fire-is-so-hot-why-is-it-still-in-stock/
BTW - Don't forget the same folks were boasting about the Windows 8 tablet in the Windows 8 thread a few months back too. I wonder how that will play out once the Win 8 tablet with clunky fan is released? ROFLMAO!
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