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Apple Says 2018 MacBook Pro Throttling is a Bug, Fix Available Now in New macOS Update
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It is partly Intel's fault that the CPU runs as hot as it does. This is Intel... now Tic Toc Toc Toc Toc Toc... or Tic Toc Boom... While other fabs are moving to 7nm fabrication (probably somewhere around 9nm in Intel speak)... Intel picked the wrong path and they are not in a good position. They have not moved to 10nm (they were supposed to be there 2+ years ago) - which they have not been honest about... and it is likely they are not even close to doing a proper processor in 10nm... If the chip was at 10nm right now (2 years late) it would generate a lot less heat. So yes, it is partly Intel's fault for giving customers faulty roadmaps and not being honest. The Apple laptop is good, but it could be better.
How about no, and instead make laptops that are better?
If it was Intel's fault how is it that Apple fixed it?
Nothing says "Absolutely dominating." like 19% of the mobile market share and 13% of the desktop market share.
They're absolutely dominating at making money I guess...?
Yeah, I saw bottlenecks on my 32-core/64-thread X7560 server, I think much worse than what you describe. I forget if it was the SSDs or the HDD I was reading/writing on. Could even be a RAM bottleneck if Handbrake is going through it since the separate CPUs (4 of them) don't share any caches. Oh well, I guess the MBP won't have to worry about that anytime soon
Edit: It was even slower than the 6-core i7-4xxx (I forget which number) I tried it on, even though the Xeon machine is overall faster in other benchmarks and real-world tasks like Apache Spark. So Handbrake is not perfect for this.
Handbrake can use up to 8 cores (or threads) efficiently - after that it degrades performance [not sure if the limit is cores or threads]. If you have more there is apparently a way to lock it to specific cores/threads and then run multiple instances. It will then max out (or close to it) the 8 that it is working with.
Because they have the ability to control many aspects of the system performance also. Your BMW breaks down due to a bad water pump. A local garage can fix it just as the dealer can. Wow, imagine that.
I posted similar comments in another thread, but only got dodgy responses ("Well, Apple fixed it") that did not address the defensive, dismissive attitudes from the Apple defenders every time an issue is reported and confirmed.
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Somehow Apple fanboys are proud of the fact Apple is making so much money (as if, as an end user, it benefits them and doesn't negatively affect them).
They didn’t fix anything, they made it little bit better. It will still throttle just like any decent laptop with i5/7/9 the only question is how much not if.
The issue with the heat is not fixed. The throttling below base is more or less fixed. The laptop though will perform better than any current, but no matter what - the processor could perform better if not for the amount of heat generated. That is on Intel... They are failing on what use to be their strength. (not to mention all the OS patches that have decreased performance because there are so many bugs that cannot be fixed currently).
The difference is Apple didn't replace the processor with a new one. They merely changed the cooling system the "engine" is attached to.
Hey if shareholders and executives making money makes people happy, all the power to them. I guess I have other priorities in life.
If someone points out a legitimate issue, why are they considered whiners or anti-Apple? In this case, someone pointed out an issue and Apple provided a software update to correct the problem so there was a legitimate issue. Just because your device does not have an issue does not mean that everyone else can't possibly having an issue with theirs. There is such a thing called product recall where the product sold can range from a small number to a large portion. Thankfully, this only requires a software update and not a hardware issue requiring it to be sent back to Apple for repair/replacement. Apple is not perfect so don't treat them like they are and pretend they can do no wrong.
I agree, I have both.
Still more people buy the ones that are not better. In other words if you break it down further the majority are not buying the ones you refer to. Comparing the best windows boxes to mac is fine, but these are not what the majority are buying so my comment stands.
Wow. Apple have admitted there is a bug, issued a fix, and people still think its intels fault. The fanboyism is strong in some around here.
From the front page story:
How is intel responsible for a digital key missing from a logic board they had nothing to do with?
From the front page story:
How is intel responsible for a digital key missing from a logic board they had nothing to do with?
No! Intel offers a processor with a certain set of specifications. If a computer manufacturer uses it in a system for which it is not appropriate that is 100% on the manufacturer. Period, there is no further discussion on this point. Stop apologizing for Apple.
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You are using a nebulous qualification. What is meant by better?
Now they can continue to complain about the Mac Mini and dongles.
You are probably right. It will morph into a bi*! fest about something else.nah, it’ll keep going.
just the complaints will change.
Note my use of the words "end user" and not shareholders.Hey if shareholders and executives making money makes people happy, all the power to them. I guess I have other priorities in life.
I pointed it out. You feigned indignance at someone pretending to know you and could have left it there. By adding the same thing at the end you perpetuated it by making sure that person had a reason to reply.
You mean like bitching about bitching?You are probably right. It will morph into a bi*! fest about something else.
