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This wont fix the problem. The problem is in hardware, not software. The only thing this will cause is that more and more Macbooks will break down
 
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Somehow Apple fanboys are proud of the fact Apple is making so much money (as if, as an end user, it benefits them and doesn't negatively affect them).
It's reasonable to prefer the platform that makes more money. Means it's likely to keep getting support, since corps only support whatever makes the most profit. Especially Apple and Google, killing off or neglecting things people still use.
 
This wont fix the problem. The problem is in hardware, not software. The only thing this will cause is that more and more Macbooks will break down
Tim Cook: Perfect! Exactly the type of planned obsolescence we like to see.
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It's reasonable to prefer the platform that makes more money. Means it's likely to keep getting support. Especially Apple and Google, two corps infamous for killing off stuff that people still use.
Nothing wrong with preferring to use a platform which makes more money. Stupid to use a platform because it makes more money.
 
The Expectations are very high for Apple.. but of course .. 3000 dollar laptop!

I think that people who spend more on products tend to complain more than the peeps who buy the budget versions.

Mainly because they are so picky and little minor faults are unacceptable to them. I notice this quite a bit with premium car manufacturers, they perform badly with consumers in reliability when in reality their claims are probably unfounded or minor things that have been fixed by the dealer but they still like to complain about
 
Who uses their laptops like desktop workstations like this? Laptops are meant for portability and not sustained workloads the like of which you are describing. If you are doing sustained workloads like this, definitely invest the money on a desktop. They are more reliable and won't crash like you mentioned.

Not that simple! Many working video/film pro’s are at shoot locations and need to get the daily’s out.
 
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Not that simple! Many working video/film pro’s are at shoot locations and need to get the daily’s out.

If that is the case, they aren't rendering the video for 365/24/7. Aren't these pro's at these locations for a short duration for time, a time period that isn't 365/24/7 that would require server-grade hardware?
 
You are using a nebulous qualification. What is meant by better?

In this instance better build for one. Buying cheap laptops get you cheap laptops. Lower specs.

Thats the laptops that most buy. For example may of 2018 acer was the top seller. I wouldn’t pick any acer as the top windows laptop and the average price was in the 400’s.

Do you really think those are the better laptops? Are you just being obtuse?

Also, As a complete line I DO think macs are better. Most other brands have junk models. Irrelevant though as junk models sell the most.
 
From their explanation, it sounded like the a key file was missing. Perhaps signing/including keys for their firmware is a step that's a step they bypass during internal testing, or perhaps they resign before creating the final firmware distribution and there was an issue, or something. I would bet money this firmware was working properly internally.
Yup. The file had this before:
throttle=yes
With the fix, it says:
throttle=maybe | no
 
Well, no, it actually wasn't a legitimate concern since it turned out to be an easy software fix. People were primarily blaming the design of the hardware.
Yes, it was a legitimate concern. Just because it was an easy fix doesn't negate that. Nor does the fact it wasn't a hardware issue. There was a problem and Apple fixed it. Exactly what I would expect. Except for the apologist who feel Apple can do no wrong.
 
That's an opinion. Sales would say you're wrong.

And let's not act like Windows machines are perfect from software, security, or hardware perspectives, lol.
Sales? Windows sells more. Still, in 2018, people use that garbage, excluding cases where they need to (certain pro setups), cause they don't know better. Same with the i9, nobody knows what throttling is; they just see the higher number on the box and assume it's better.
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I can't speak to the OP you're responding to but thicker chassis mean one can more easily create systems with upgradeable hardware. It's not all about the cooling.
That's true, but few people need to upgrade internal laptop components.
 
has anybody in this thread actually tested it or are we just arguing over apple because none of us actually ownt he i9 laptop and we have nothing to do with our lives.
I have NOT, as I own a 2016 15" MacBook Pro that is working great for me (Satan's keyboard and all that). I am currently frozen, waiting for an iMac refresh before beginning a new lease at the business where I am employed. You and at least one other forum member have asked for test data to confirm or refute Apple's assertion that the issue is indeed fixed (cue Jeopardy Theme, the 24 Hour Remix by Paul Oakenfold)

The naysayers, who do not own one of these abominations, as it offends their delicate sensibilities and blind allegiance to The Cult Of The USB Type-A Port, continue waving their correspondence course EE degrees and praying for Tim Cook to burst into flames, while the glass half full contingent is trying to work, flies continually buzzing in their ears, causing quite a bit of consternation.

The rest of us (well, maybe just me and a few other popcorn munchers) watch as the naysayers accuse Apple of kicking puppies or sacrificing unicorns for gold dubloons as many on this forum try to have a reasonable conversation amongst the verbal landmines and guided missiles lobbed by the aforementioned naysayers.

I suspect the YouTube crowd is furiously shooting and editing follow up videos which will either be released later this evening or early tomorrow.

Meanwhile, the world keep spinning.
 
In this instance better build for one. Buying cheap laptops get you cheap laptops. Lower specs.
Sales do not indicate a better built product. Again, if that were the case then McDonald's makes one hell of a burger. Is it your opinion McDonalds makes one of the top quality burgers?

You also need to make a distinction between cheap (as in build quality) and cheap (as in lower cost). One would expect lower specs to cost less.

Thats the laptops that most buy. For example may of 2018 acer was the top seller. I wouldn’t pick any acer as the top windows laptop and the average price was in the 400’s.

Do you really think those are the better laptops?
It depends on what you mean by better. I am using a 2007 Gateway PC as my primary desktop. Despite all the doom and gloom I've heard about Gateway computers being cheap it still works fine. Compare this to my 2008 Mac Pro which cost considerably more and is no longer supported by Apple.
 
As a result of this, I would like to see more real world testing from Apple centric sites, who sometimes get the hardware early.

Rechecking the benchmarks and comparing it to the previous version is valuable, but ensuring that the tech actual meets the stated parameters under the demanding workflows power users put these devices under would have caught much earlier.

And sincerely, thank you to the MacRumors members who over the next few days will be testing and posting results, allowing the rest of us to make more informed decisions.
 
It's not like the laptop wasn't working. That would be something pretty hard to find in testing to be honest. They managed to get an update pretty quickly, if it does really fix the problem then I think they did a good job.
Seriously????? You think that's a valid argument? You think the laptops don't go through stress test? So Apple who is building the laptop couldn't find this issue through out the testing phase, but people could find this issue in 2-3 days after release? The bias...
 
Ah, the classic "I know you are but what am I" response. You didn't let me down.
And your need to have the last word does not disappoint either. Narcissistic much? Why are you even here anyway? You enjoy spending your time on a forum geared at products from a company that you seemingly despise? What a sad existence. You are full of vitriol and hate. Anyone that shows any support towards Apple and you immediately default to “fanboy” comments. I feel sorry for you.
 
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