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Both of those products meet the expectations of their customers. Who said everyone enjoying a Bud is looking for the "best" or more "complex" beer?

I bet the lunch you had today was garbage compared to a 3 Michelin Star restaurant in NYC. Does that mean you're an idiot or that there is a time and place for everything?

Complete blather that has nothing to do with what I said.

I never made any statement whatsoever on people enjoying it or not. Just that its not the best. Something you as much as said in YOUR statement.

I never called anyone an idiot either.

Does that make you an idiot for posting without understanding what you are replying to.

The restaurant jibberish also has nothing to do with what the majority Buy. Just a childish attack. On ignore.
 
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A company having a healthy profit margin enables them to engineer better products. So yes, that makes me happy. Companies that operate on an unhealthy margin, always losing money, get distracted by "how can we make this cheaper? how can we sell more?", and that's not good for a consumer in the long run.
From reports of Apple's profit margins they could halve their profit and still have healthy margins.

The true cost is "cost of ownership", and Apple products are cheaper in that regard. It's proven.
Yeah, year...I've been hearing this since the Gistics study was released 20 years ago. Anything current to support this TCO statement?
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Curious. Is your 2007 Gateway PC still supported by Gateway?
No, but Microsoft does. Unlike Apple with my 2008 Mac Pro which costs considerably more than my Gateway.
 
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A few days ago I suggested on Reddit that this could have been a software issue and I got raked over the coals for it.
It isn't just a software issue though. It's once again crappy engineering. Making things so difficult that maintenance issues are bound to appear. Stuff like this could be entirely avoided if Apple didn't lock down the system in the first place. To the point that their own tools are no longer capable of working properly.
 
Curious. Is your 2007 Gateway PC still supported by Gateway?
LOL I used to work for Gateway ages ago. That was until the company closed the doors to their giant facility and sent everyone packing.
 
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Sales do not indicate a better built product. Again, if that were the case then McDonald's makes one hell of a burger. Is it your opinion McDonalds makes one of the top quality burgers?

? I clearly stated that and used budweiser and taco bell as examples. Try reading the conversation you are jumping in on. Jeez.

Both. Build quality and price. I have already stated that also. Just like mcdonalds is cheap in both regards compared to good burgers. What's your point?


It depends on what you mean by better. I am using a 2007 Gateway PC as my primary desktop. Despite all the doom and gloom I've heard about Gateway computers being cheap it still works fine. Compare this to my 2008 Mac Pro which cost considerably more and is no longer supported by Apple.

Again, try reading the conversation you are jumping in. I clearly stated pretty much the same thing. I am not talking about individual computers, but what the majority buy. The majority do not buy the best laptops just like they do not buy the best burgers.
 
So you wrote something which negated your own point?
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As a shareholder that's a great thing. As an non-shareholder, end user (which I will posit is the majority of Apple users) it's not such a good thing.
I am happy either way, so it's great.

The point of MSFT being able to run anything on the Windows PCs wasn't a compliment. It causes a lot of problems. I use Windows every day.
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Pretty sure Mac revenue is higher than Windows revenue, but that's not even fair to MS. There's no good comparison of revenues between the two because Apple sells Macs bundled with a free OS, and MS sells Windows by itself. Maybe you can look at Mac vs Dell revenues... Dell wins there too. Acer probably also wins, and they're more consumer.
MS sells tons of bundled OS.
 
Yes, they are dominating in profit. I don't care. I am not a business, I have other goals in life besides money. I am not Apple. I don't have Apple stock. I've never worked for them, and probably never will. Unless you have some way of personally benefiting from their wealth, you shouldn't either.
I own shares, so I do. I literally own a small part of AAPL.
 
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lol. Every positive article on macrumors (or any news site for that matter) devolves into haters always trying to twist positive articles into a negative one.
 
Good for Apple.
I do have a question though.
Since these laptops are not user repairable, how do you deal with dried out thermal paste which is unavoidable after a few years of moderate to heavy use? As far as I know the user has no access to the CPU to replace the thermal paste.
 
That's an opinion. Sales would say you're wrong.

And let's not act like Windows machines are perfect from software, security, or hardware perspectives, lol.
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Ugh, maybe they didn't replicate this issue? So they missed something and fixed it within a week of releasing the product and you have a problem? LOL!!
I dont have a problem, just wanna see if it was resolved completely with a software fix before i order!
 
Pretty sure Mac revenue is higher than Windows revenue, but that's not even fair to MS. There's no good comparison of revenues between the two because Apple sells Macs bundled with a free OS, and MS sells Windows by itself. Maybe you can look at Mac vs Dell revenues... Dell wins there too. Acer probably also wins, and they're more consumer.

Windows revenue is double Mac revenue.
 
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