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The haters are worse than sheep because at least the sheep put money where their mouth is.
This is true. I've never seen the anti-Apple crowd actually do something like short selling AAPL stock (they already own zero Apple products, so nothing they can switch from). I personally sold mine for some S&P500 ETF shares, though. Not going back to holding AAPL, at least not directly.
 
My DSLR cameras use SD cards: SDHC, SDXC, UHS-I or UHS-II

That’s what is being used in Canon, Nikon or Olympus cameras for the last 10 years or so. I was looking at one of the new digital Blad’s but it’s a bit rich for my wallet. I still use my old reliable 500cm when I need film.

Aye a wee entry level DSLR may use a SD Card, but this is a pro laptop. The Canon 1 series, 5 series and their Nikon equivalents all use CF or CFast. Some have a SD as a backup option, however if your shooting on pro gear you are not using SD cards. My 5D Mark 2 and 3 both use CF cards and when I get my hands on a 1Dx Mark 2 it will only be using CFast as there is no SD slot on it and a SD card is not fast enough for 14-16fps RAW files.

My argument boils down to this idea that a SD slot is missing, the argument should be if there is a missing port that it is missing CFast which pro's are quickly moving to with it replacing CF in the pro cameras.

Edit: It looks like CFast is on its way out a CFexpress is the way forward for pro which is compatible with the XQD cards used in Nikon pro cameras.
 
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Curious. Is your 2007 Gateway PC still supported by Gateway?
Nobody needs hardware support, only software support. Apple is definitely bad about this with Macs, not that I blame them. They've made it clear that they aren't about supporting legacy hardware if it comes at a cost. But you can run the latest Windows on nearly anything.
 
It means the Mac Donald’s makes pretty good burgers for that price point. Plus there are other perks such as speed and convenience over queuing at a restaurant to eat a better burger. So for the people buying a cheeseburger, that represented the “best” option for them then and there, and taking into account all the various environmental factors.

This just goes to show that different people value different things in a product, and what constitutes “best” is going to vary from person to person.
IOW: There are other factors to selling a lot of something other than quality. I agree.
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Please tell me that you truly are not that dense. It speaks volumes about the quality of the products that we were producing.
Apparently I am so indulge me and answer the question.
 
The question isn't whether they're a well run company or not. The question is: Is their product better than everyone else (because of the quantity they sell)?
It's not that far from reasonable. If everyone had perfect knowledge about what they're buying, revenue would = good provided to everyone. So that'd be a yes... except people definitely don't have perfect knowledge of the **** that goes into McDonald's food and what it does to you long-term if you eat it as much as Americans currently do.
 
Nobody needs hardware support, only software support. Apple is definitely bad about this with Macs, not that I blame them. They've made it clear that they aren't about supporting legacy hardware if it comes at a cost. But you can run the latest Windows on nearly anything.
I feel that Apple's hardware support is reasonable. I'm not faulting Apple for having dropped support for a 2008 model system. I feel they did a reasonable job of supporting it (though I disagree when it comes to the 1,1 and 2,1 models, I feel they could have continued support a little longer). Though it is ironic the only major OS that doesn't support the 3,1 Mac Pro is the one that comes from the company that built the 3,1 Mac Pro.
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If everyone had perfect knowledge about what they're buying, revenue would = good provided to the public. So that'd be a yes... except people definitely don't have perfect knowledge of the **** that goes into McDonald's food and what it does to you long-term if you eat it as much as Americans currently do.
It's your position people feel, based on imperfect knowledge, feel that McDonalds burgers are on par with the best burgers out there?
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This is true. I've never seen the anti-Apple crowd actually do something like short selling AAPL stock (they already own zero Apple products, so nothing they can switch from). I personally sold mine for some S&P500 ETF shares, though. Not going back to holding AAPL, at least not directly.
Please define anti-Apple crowd. What I have seen is the majority of "anti Apple" people criticizing, appropriately so, Apple about a problem with their product. A problem acknowledged, and fixed, by Apple.
 
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It's your position people feel, based on imperfect knowledge, feel that McDonalds burgers are on par with the best burgers out there?
Taking everything like price and convenience into account, they often consider it worthwhile to buy McDonald's burgers instead of others. So yeah. E.g. other burgers might taste better but cost more.
 
Please define anti-Apple crowd. What I have seen is the majority of "anti Apple" people criticizing, appropriately so, Apple about a problem with their product. A problem acknowledged, and fixed, by Apple.
Every member on MR who comments, always negatively, but does not currently use a single Apple product. There aren't that many of them. Not the people who rightfully are pointing out this problem.
 
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Please see the post that I was responding to. If you have a problem with people expecting to use a laptop in a certain way, it's because Apple said they could.
OP was questioning the appropriateness of using MBP for batch jobs of overnight rendering. Wasn’t sure why your reply included a picture of Schiller.
 
Oops, I meant the other way around
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Yes, because anything less and you'll still complain it's less practical than the more modular and better cooled gaming laptops, which are huge. Those are as small as they can be while having "enough" cooling (I assume for all CPU states, including turbo boost) and everything swappable. Either that or they're adding bulk for no reason.

LMAO, funny guy. You don't need a giant sized laptop just to get it to cool DECENTLY. Are you new to the computer world? Head over to some overclocking and PC build forums and you'll likely come across some info on cooling.

You're grossly misinformed if you're not new to this, which I'd understand if all you spend your time on is listening to everything from Apple. You've probably been played by them.
 
I’ve seen it, what’s the problem?
I could ask you the same question. You asked why my reply included a picture of Schiller. I gave you the link to the Apple presentation and the timestamp. As for why Schiller was overlayed with the keynote slide, you would have to ask Apple. I simply took a screenshot of the entire video frame as presented by Apple.
 
As a shareholder, absolutely. I also quite enjoy their products and support, so I'm willing to pay whatever they charge.

Someone who is a shareholder would probably be just a LITTLE concerned about a company that put out a product with inadequate vrms, extremely shortening the products lifespan no matter what software fix you come up, and opening them up to class action lawsuits in the future. A shareholder would be concerned if a company releases a flawed product. You on the other hand, just go 'RA RA' and attack anyone who dares say something negative about your precious Apple. There's a word for people like you and it isn't 'shareholder'...
 
LMAO, funny guy. You don't need a giant sized laptop just to get it to cool DECENTLY. Are you new to the computer world? Head over to some overclocking and PC build forums and you'll likely come across some info on cooling.

You're grossly misinformed if you're not new to this, which I'd understand if all you spend your time on is listening to everything from Apple. You've probably been played by them.
The non-defective MBPs can stay at max clock speed during sustained load at room temperature. So if that's not decent cooling, the only better thing is supporting Turbo Boost or custom overclocking sustained, or high temperature surroundings.

About the insult... My signature only includes Macs because it's MacRumors. I've also got a few Linux servers, some old semi-custom PCs, and an iPhone I refuse to swap out for newer jack-less ones. Almost all of my software dev work is targeting non-Apple platforms.
 
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Well, the temperature could really be prohibitively hot - I'll imagine will see that commented about shortly if it's an issue.

Yes, ‘if’ Apple deliberately did this to keep the system from over heating...what now? Is it going to melt and now overheat?

Did they do this to help keep the battery from melting?

Next...Now what? Cook some eggs on the trackpad?
 
Why are they throttling at all ?

Because the battery can't handle full speed CPUs and the thermal design cannot handle full speed CPUs, thanks to Mr. Ive and the thinness principles adopted by Apple. Now Apple could choose to make a Pro machine that handles both thermal and battery problems better, but they choose to believe that doing so will hurt their hipster image.

As a result Apple has chosen to lose customers rather than have a broad based product line.
 
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Because the battery can't handle full speed CPUs and the thermal design cannot handle full speed CPUs, thanks to Mr. Ive and the thinness principles adopted by Apple. Now Apple could choose to make a Pro machine that handles both thermal and battery problems better, but they choose to believe that doing so will hurt their hipster image.

As a result Apple has chosen to lose customers rather than have a broad based product line.

I know, it'd be way more hipster to be one of those guys carrying around a 10 pound gaming laptop. Now there's a true hipster.
 
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