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Can we add video export to the test suite, guys? A few user stories about 100% CPU for a few minutes, ok? Thanks.

-The QA Manager about to be canned
 
The non-defective MBPs can stay at max clock speed during sustained load at room temperature. So if that's not decent cooling, the only better thing is supporting Turbo Boost or custom overclocking sustained, or high temperature surroundings.

They're also not very fast, lol. Which would explain why they don't reach high speeds when they're effectively underclocked. Apple has a history of this, check the 4790k iMac... that thing had to downthrottle too.. A DESKTOP.

About the insult... My signature only includes Macs because it's MacRumors. I've also got a few Linux servers, some old semi-custom PCs, and an iPhone I refuse to swap out for newer jack-less ones. Almost all of my software dev work is targeting non-Apple platforms.

That still doesn't mean you've got experience with PC builds and cooling, something you CAN'T tinker with on Apple comps because Apple prefers to cram everything into as small footprint as possible... you should know this.
 
Will there be a supplemental update for people on Mojave with the new MBP 2018? Or was this bug already fixed in beta 4 or a previous beta? Can find that answer anywhere yet.
 
Let’s wait for the armchair engineers here to say this isn’t good enough and doesn’t address the hardware issue they concluded must exist.

See how far overreacting gets you?

Um, the 'armchair engineers' showed that it wasn't good enough. If it wasn't for them and the widespread attention they garnered would a fix have come so quickly? So I don't think you should be so hard on them.
 
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Therefore they're the best product...if we're to believe sales volume reflects product quality.
Microsoft does make good stuff, but I consider dollars spent more relevant than market share or units sold. That's why Samsung still wishes they were Apple or all the other trash that use Android.

Apple crushes Microsoft in dollar spent period, but particularly in the consumer products area.

Enterprises are basically forced into Windows because of their compatibility...which is a good thing and a strength. But there are downsides.
 
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It isn't just a software issue though. It's once again crappy engineering. Making things so difficult that maintenance issues are bound to appear. Stuff like this could be entirely avoided if Apple didn't lock down the system in the first place. To the point that their own tools are no longer capable of working properly.
Totally exaggerating.The MBP is fully capable of working properly, as demonstrated by Apple with this fix. Apart from that, in the year 2018, you really want everything locked down. Or would you prefer it if some hacker can turn off the fans on your MacBook and the throttling, and it dies from overheating?
 
Um, the 'armchair engineers' showed that it wasn't good enough. If it wasn't for them and the widespread attention they garnered would a fix have come so quickly?
The armchair engineers were the ones speculating on what was wrong, how it could or could not be fixed, what Apple engineers knew or didn't, etc. There were people speculating there was no way this could be fixed via software, the product was DOA, the design was flawed, too thin, not sufficient, etc etc. All nonsense.

This takes nothing away from finding an issue. I'm simply telling you not every scenario can be tested and/or replicated and you're insane if you think Apple didn't do their own version of testing. Should it have been better? Who knows, but it's fixed and now we can move on.
 
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Someone who is a shareholder would probably be just a LITTLE concerned about a company that put out a product with inadequate vrms, extremely shortening the products lifespan no matter what software fix you come up, and opening them up to class action lawsuits in the future. A shareholder would be concerned if a company releases a flawed product. You on the other hand, just go 'RA RA' and attack anyone who dares say something negative about your precious Apple. There's a word for people like you and it isn't 'shareholder'...
You must not be a shareholder.

When the numbers are impacted by normal business operations like this, I'll know. I know the numbers backward and forward....and they are almost all outstanding to freaking incredible. From a financial perspective, there isn't a company that touches Apple.

And class action?? LOL!!! The biggest class action settlement ever in history for any company would be a peanuts to Apple and only the health related ones are even close to damaging. The tobacco one could have been paid with a month's profit from Apple...so no, not worried about silly class actions.

Apple's financials are world class and it isn't close.

You're like the person that says Disney is doomed because a ride broke down for 2 hours or that the park WiFi went down for a day. ALL business has issues. It's all about how you respond to them. Apple makes new products on a yearly basis and it's insane to think all of this will work without some hiccups.

Sell your shares to me. I'll buy them.
 
Will there be a supplemental update for people on Mojave with the new MBP 2018? Or was this bug already fixed in beta 4 or a previous beta? Can find that answer anywhere yet.

It's not currently patched on Mojave. You'll have to wait for the next beta, if it's included then.

Don't run a beta and expect top performance anyways. They're always far from optimized.
 
Aye a wee entry level DSLR may use a SD Card, but this is a pro laptop. The Canon 1 series, 5 series and their Nikon equivalents all use CF or CFast. Some have a SD as a backup option, however if your shooting on pro gear you are not using SD cards.

Nikon D500 (Pro level APSC uses XQD and SD), D850 (XQD and SD), D750 (SD). And then there's the other brands that some Pros use (Olympus, Sony, Pentax, etc) that use SD.

If anything, CF is getting harder to find and more expensive.
 
what is still not working properly for you?

My laptop randomly restarted one time which is still T2 issue and Max cpu clock with cinebench didnt go above 3.5 then dropped to 3.1 3.0 with temp @100 C

link to my T2 issue on Brand new MacBook pro 2.9 15 inch 32 gb 2TB

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...inch-and-issue-already.2129250/#post-26283180
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It's not currently patched on Mojave. You'll have to wait for the next beta, if it's included then.

Don't run a beta and expect top performance anyways. They're always far from optimized.

Im not on Beta, I run this tests on 10.13.6
 
On the one hand, I am incredibly glad Apple has responded in a prompt manner to this very serious issue. I will await detailed reporting on how well the fix performs before pulling the trigger on a new MBP.

On the other hand, I am incredibly concerned that such a serious and easily detectable issue was able to slip through Apple's quality assurance process in the first place.

I really hope Apple turns this into an opportunity to reevaluate their internal processes, because something like this just shouldn't happen, and really calls into question their stewardship of the Mac platform.

Agreed.

I’m wondering if Apple has moved all of their senior QA staff to another project in the last year or so.

It hasn’t been just this - we’ve seen software only bugs such as the high sierra root bug of this year. Plus the slow motion car crash that was iOS 11 for about the first six months on anything other than 2017’s new iPhone models.

It was often said of Apple that they couldn’t walk and chew gum at the same time & I’m wondering if this is still the case.

It often feels that they can only focus on a few things at once before things start to slip.
 
This guy did some preliminary testing after the fix and it's not really good news folks:


So basically this software patch does some vrm tweaks and adds an aggressive fan profile. These machines still run too hot, the vrms will give out, as well as the cpu and gpu. I can't wait for the apologists when this is remembered as the second 2011 Macs
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You must not be a shareholder.

When the numbers are impacted by normal business operations like this, I'll know. I know the numbers backward and forward....and they are almost all outstanding to freaking incredible. From a financial perspective, there isn't a company that touches Apple.

And class action?? LOL!!! The biggest class action settlement ever in history for any company would be a peanuts to Apple and only the health related ones are even close to damaging. The tobacco one could have been paid with a month's profit from Apple...so no, not worried about silly class actions.

Apple's financials are world class and it isn't close.

You're like the person that says Disney is doomed because a ride broke down for 2 hours or that the park WiFi went down for a day. ALL business has issues. It's all about how you respond to them. Apple makes new products on a yearly basis and it's insane to think all of this will work without some hiccups.

Sell your shares to me. I'll buy them.

I'm going to bet that if I read your posts you've also said in the past that the butterfly switches weren't a problem and people were making them up (Something that will cost Apple millions).
 
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My laptop randomly restarted one time which is still T2 issue and Max cpu clock with cinebench didnt go above 3.5 then dropped to 3.1 3.0 with temp @100 C
if the clock speed is running above the rated base clock speed (2.9GHz) using a benchmark test such as Cinebench (all cores 100%)...
then that’s good.


srry but you should definitely be satisfied with the 6cores running at a consistent 3.1 GHz during a Cinebench test.
(in my opinion at least).
 
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Testing has also shown under load the USB-C power brick is unable to supply enough power so the battery is leaned on to fill the power need. So if you are running a batch job of renderings overnight lets say its possible the battery will exhaust its charge and the system crashes out in mid process due to lack of power, thats also not good!
From experience (running an older MBP 15" with all cores running, using the wrong charger (65W instead of 85W) that couldn't supply enough power: There are no system crashes. The battery emptied very, very slowly, at 2% charge the clock speed went down to maybe one half of the normal speed, the battery charged up to 5%, clock speed went back to full speed, battery went to two percent and so on. (Turning WiFi off and brightness down and it went back to 100% over many, many hours - but as I said, with the wrong charger).
 
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