It’s also about user data. That’s data that GM can leverage and sell to third-parties.
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Apple Says CarPlay Now Available in Over 800 Vehicle Models as GM Plans to Phase Out Support in EVs
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Excellent point. As it stands, my Honda has its own system (I find it far less usable than CarPlay), so if CarPlay isn't your thing... have at it. But I am already connected and using CarPlay before I leave my driveway.
Electric cars can't backfire.
GM almost went bankrupt in 2008 before Obama bailed out the auto industry. Their sales would probably drop more after this
Don't care; I will never own any GM cars, regardless what they do. I'm always toward Japan/Korea market cars for reliability.
They’re all looking for alternate sources of income rather than responding to market demands. No car manufacturer wants to make money by making good cars, they want to upcharge you for using your heat or air conditioning and sell your data to third parties.
I am also wondering what benefits do car makers get by excluding any mobile platforms? Does it cost a lot more to integrate two of them (CarPlay and Google Auto) vs just one?
If I were making a car, I would support them all to appeal to as wide pool of potential customers as possible.
If I were making a car, I would support them all to appeal to as wide pool of potential customers as possible.
I expect rental cars to have CarPlay. Navigation is important in a rental car and it just better work. It's hard enough to get CarPlay to work in rental cars because it's usually been set up for someone else; I can't imagine GM no-play is going to be easier. The rental market is isn't everything, but!
GM will backtrack this decision. If they don’t, they will lose me as a customer.
I don't understand GM's decision at all. It doesn't sound exclusive to CarPlay either. Why would you nix CarPlay and Android Auto - two devices people carry around with them 24/7 - to just say you have a "holistically integrated" OS. Dumb marketing decision all around.
I've never owned a Japanese or Korean car, but I got nearly 300K miles out of my last Chevy Tahoe with only routine maintenance over 12 years of ownership. The transmission went out just shy of 300K miles and I decided not to fix it. I figured at that point I had gotten my money's worth. I chose to go with Chevy for my new truck because the Tahoe was so reliable.
And solar farms are great — if you live in a place with lots of sun. If you live in the north and get a lot of clouds and snow then solar becomes a lot less reliable in the winter. Gas Still works even when solar doesn’t.
What happened to hybrids? These always seemed like great choices for many but we seemed to skip right over them for electric. I think it’s about batteries. Batteries will need replaced every 5 years or so and batteries are expensive. Car companies have gotten people hooked on leases and if batteries cost 70% of the car, just get a new car instead. In other words, they want cars to become disposable and get you hooked on yet another “subscription”, this time to cars.
Sort of like how Apple has pushed everyone to a subscription model for software? Apple fans need a cold hard dose of reality. All of this subscription madness we're seeing today is because of Apple. Apple proved that it is both easy and highly profitable to nickel and dime your customers forever, so of course everyone else wants to get in on the action.
agreed, I just want the wireless versionfor my car model and make its the 2023 model so I will have to get it later on
I added a USB dongle to my CarPlay and its now wireless. Some good working options for $CA 100. Check out Amazon !
Android Auto is also getting shafted.
GM is going at it alone, like in a blaze of glory
Apple uses a subscription for it's services not software, if i remember most of the "software" Apple has is free.
Are you sure about that, IMHO the tech industry is just trying ploys to mimic necessary forms of being entertained though subscriptions.
True, but the point remains the same. Apple is the one who made subscription-everything a thing. It's pretty rich to complain about other companies wanting to generate subscription revenue while giving Apple a pass. Furthermore, all of these comments about GM wanting to charge for air conditioning and things like that are just plain stupid. We have no idea what GM is doing and we won't know for years.
I've done the same but there is something to be said for having it OEM. My third party adapter is slower to connect and not as reliable from ones I've seen built-in.
I can only think of it somehow leading to GM getting subsidies or something from Google and/or Spotify. There's gotta be some kind of incentive to purposely NOT include a longstanding standard feature.
I'd say Adobe has been the main driver of subscription services. Even today, I can buy Apple SW like Pro Logic once with no sub.
GM is incorporating Google built-in for the core dash and infotainment system. Even if GM relents and allows CarPlay the car will still be running Google's software to run car functions, dash, monitors and display, infotainment, gps, and anything else that can be used to build one "amazing" profile of the driver.Who knows, maybe GM really will build a software platform that's superior to CarPlay. Maybe pigs will also fly.
In the meanwhile though, is GM doing so well with EV sales that they can afford to alienate people who really like CarPlay? Somehow, I doubt it. 🤡
Edit: Oh, and don't forget about presenting ads and subscriptions services.