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Apple Says Claims Face ID Was Downgraded to Speed Up Production Are 'Completely False'
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You guys realize the hardware and software have specifications that aren't 'fuzzy.' If the software and the neural processor are expecting 30k points returned from the dot projector, you can't just wing it and return, say, 20k points. Changing a requirement like this would be completely impractical and time and cost ineffective. Let alone doing this in the last months of production.
I think at first there was a 1,000,000:1 chance it was true, but now there is a 500,000:1 chance. So, definitely not true.
I wish Apple would do this more - put the smack down on analysts and reports of various issues they’re always supposed to be going through without any shred of evidence.
I never made the claim that Apple was lying. Only that I expected the denial whether the story is true or not, and I'm sure Apple has understated the accuracy of FaceID from the beginning just in case problems arise or to account for variance between units, so it'd be hard to prove that any false claims have been made.
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According to Apple, the quality and the accuracy of Face ID have not changed, and Face ID will be the new "gold standard" for facial authentication.
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Shame. So we'll be getting more of the keynote incidents then. To be fair, Touch ID only works about half the time for me with my greasy hands.
MR needs to add an update to the end of the article that claims otherwise.
Do we all remember this?
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/02/28/iphone-8-oled-screen-usb-c/
This is just another case of "sources" and "journalists" having no ability to reason logically, and taking a tiny bit of information that they don't understand the context of and misinterpreting it, turning it into something with a completely different conclusion and whacking a clickbait title on it.
It's clear that if there was any bit of real information here, it was manufacturing-related and likely associated with component verification. Probably something like "instead of testing each dot projector for 1 minute in the test rig to verify it's working as expected, we'll let you test each for 30 seconds because we've found now that it's good enough to know it's fine".
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/02/28/iphone-8-oled-screen-usb-c/
Apple will replace the Lightning connector with a USB-C port. Indeed, all of the next iPhones are said to feature a "USB-C port for the power cord and other peripheral devices instead of the company's original Lightning connector".
This is just another case of "sources" and "journalists" having no ability to reason logically, and taking a tiny bit of information that they don't understand the context of and misinterpreting it, turning it into something with a completely different conclusion and whacking a clickbait title on it.
It's clear that if there was any bit of real information here, it was manufacturing-related and likely associated with component verification. Probably something like "instead of testing each dot projector for 1 minute in the test rig to verify it's working as expected, we'll let you test each for 30 seconds because we've found now that it's good enough to know it's fine".
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Bloomberg this morning alleged that Apple allowed its suppliers to make Face ID less accurate in order to speed up production on the device, a claim that Apple now says is "completely false" in a statement shared with TechCrunch.
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According to Apple, the quality and the accuracy of Face ID have not changed, and Face ID will be the new "gold standard" for facial authentication.The report from Bloomberg, which went into detail about some of the components used in the TrueDepth camera, suggested Apple had "relaxed some of the specifications for Face ID" to boost the number of usable dot projectors, a component that Apple suppliers were said to be struggling with. From Bloomberg:In addition to Apple's statement suggesting no changes have been made to Face ID, Apple has shared specific accuracy numbers and details on the feature, so it would be difficult for the company to make changes in production that would alter the way that Face ID works.
Apple reportedly struggled with production for several of the components for the iPhone X, given that it's a new device using many new technologies. As a result of those issues, supply of the iPhone X is expected to be extremely limited at launch, with Apple likely unable to reach supply-demand balance until 2018.
Article Link: Apple Says Claims Face ID Was Downgraded to Speed Up Production Are 'Completely False'
I am looking forward to the iPhone X (Space Gray-256 GB, fingers crossed).![]()
Bloomberg this morning alleged that Apple allowed its suppliers to make Face ID less accurate in order to speed up production on the device, a claim that Apple now says is "completely false" in a statement shared with TechCrunch.
![faceidangle-800x644.jpg]()
According to Apple, the quality and the accuracy of Face ID have not changed, and Face ID will be the new "gold standard" for facial authentication.The report from Bloomberg, which went into detail about some of the components used in the TrueDepth camera, suggested Apple had "relaxed some of the specifications for Face ID" to boost the number of usable dot projectors, a component that Apple suppliers were said to be struggling with. From Bloomberg:In addition to Apple's statement suggesting no changes have been made to Face ID, Apple has shared specific accuracy numbers and details on the feature, so it would be difficult for the company to make changes in production that would alter the way that Face ID works.
Apple reportedly struggled with production for several of the components for the iPhone X, given that it's a new device using many new technologies. As a result of those issues, supply of the iPhone X is expected to be extremely limited at launch, with Apple likely unable to reach supply-demand balance until 2018.
Article Link: Apple Says Claims Face ID Was Downgraded to Speed Up Production Are 'Completely False'
When first announced, I was skeptical, but I work in a laboratory where gloves interfere with Touch ID and if my hands are sweaty or I just washed them, Touch ID is useless. The more I look at it, FaceID looks like a Godsend (to me). With a superior security threshold and a hands-off unlock, I am excited to see if this technology lives up to Apple's hype.
Under the screen fingerprint recognition looks interesting from a technology perspective, but for my above TouchID "struggles" I am happy to drink the KoolAid and gives this a spin.
Nothing is perfect but I’ve been satisfied with Apple products over the years. They pay close attention to detail.
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In the other thread, Apple’s then non-response was proof it was true. Now their response is “proof.”
No they don’t. Apple is a publicly traded company, lying is very difficult for them especially on a major feature of their major product. This is a “no BS” answer, not a “all of our high standars are met”.
i'm trying to protect my brethren from having to get up on saturday when preorders unlock just to buy a watered-down product. especially if they were intending on getting a 256gb space gray X. they definitely should not be trying to buy that now.
Uh, Apple literally said FaceID hasn’t changed and remains at 1 in a million chance a random person could trick it. They also stated quality and accuracy are unchanged.
So what exactly do you think are the effects of these so-called changes if Apple states it works exactly as before?
I just do not understand - why is this not considered libel? Is Bloomberg or any other news outlet allowed to write an article about anything that comes to mind and there not be repercussions?
BGR is trash. They have been for a couple of years. They are nothing but clickbait artists with sensationalist headlines. They are probably running with something like “Guess which feature Apple lied about on their $1,000 phone!!!”
I used to visit them daily, numerous times. Now I never go because they are just there to stoke the flame wars in the comments for traffic.
Sorry man believe it or not.. these things happen all the time. Can't sugarcoat it for you, it truly does. Don't have to believe me at all but that's how companies work. It's a game.
If Apple could be taken to court and sued for a vast amount of money, why is the same not true for what Bloomberg did by falsely accusing Apple? (I am truly asking, not being a smart aleck)
Summary of comments:
People who thought the “less accurate FaceID” rumor was false, now say they were right all along.
People who think the rumor was true, claim Apple is lying/doing damage control.
In other words, Apple’s statement basically means nothing and the endless bickering here on MR continues.
People who thought the “less accurate FaceID” rumor was false, now say they were right all along.
People who think the rumor was true, claim Apple is lying/doing damage control.
In other words, Apple’s statement basically means nothing and the endless bickering here on MR continues.
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nothing, if it was true I would expect apple to not comment at all.
Nope. They sugarcoat it, but it’s very difficult for them to lie in a way that is so specific. They can say “you’re holding it wrong”, but I would say it’s difficult for them to say “The antenna is ok” when it isn’t.
The accusers should have to provide some unequivocal proof for us that this is actually true before anyone starts to point fingers.
I find it highly unlikely that Apple (because they aren't just some small unknown outfit of a company) would do this. They can't downgrade the main feature of the phone and then deny it. Not least of all because they have marketed it to the world already. If any changes made were to alter the products ability in any meaningful way it would be fraudulent.