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I disagree. What happened today was like taking your car for an oil change and the attendant forgetting to put the oil filter on right, causing your car to stall a mile away because it lost all its oil.

Been there. Shop forgot to put drain plug in. Seriously. How did they not notice that the floor was covered in oil?
 
Well you seem to have all the stuff to roll back with iTunes.

I have been rolling back in iTunes now for 15 hours and it's just sitting there. That's the main problem now is there is no rolling anywhere at the moment.

I'm not sure what the heck to do. Pull the plug and start over or keep waiting while this baby just spins with no data being transferred..
 
After all is said and done I'm actually glad this issue happened.

Great reminder to not rush to be first and think about the consequences you can face should something go wrong.

There is someone out there right now on vacation who updated their phone and may not have a computer to downgrade the OS, etc..

Sure, software should just "work" when it's released, but errors occur.
 
Technically speaking, at the beginning of the day it was a phone. At the end of the day it was an iPod touch. :)

Actually, what surprises me, is that anyone noticed. I thought I was the last one who remembered that phones call people. I only see people tapping away on them anymore.
 
iOS has been a bit of a disaster. Upgraded my wife's iPhone 5S and it hogged an enormous amount of memory, also third party chargers are no longer working.
 
Stop being so immature. For many of us, our phones are a vital business tool. I can tolerate small bugs and certain apps having issues, but to lose cellular connectivity is totally unacceptable.

If it truly were a vital business tool for you then you wouldn't have updated in the first 60 minutes of a patch being available. Unless you have a system that is already broken and requires a patch to fix it you NEVER update business critical systems until you have either tested it or let someone else test it first.

Even if you were desperate for the new update you should always carry out a backup prior to upgrading as you can never be 100% sure that you won't have a technical issue or even act of God which will Bork your kit.
 
any chance we could see iOS 8.0.2 today?

i know they need to have the fix ready and probably do testing but who knows maybe they have worked all night and have the fix ready and completed testing and its ready to go? small chance?
 
If it truly were a vital business tool for you then you wouldn't have updated in the first 60 minutes of a patch being available. Unless you have a system that is already broken and requires a patch to fix it you NEVER update business critical systems until you have either tested it or let someone else test it first.

Even if you were desperate for the new update you should always carry out a backup prior to upgrading as you can never be 100% sure that you won't have a technical issue or even act of God which will Bork your kit.

It's not a data centre, it's a phone. I personally have never had a patch that has knocked out my cellular service before. I can live with busted apps or glitches, but to wipe out the core function of a phone is unheard of. I updated because I didn't think it could do this much damage.

Also, it's supposedly been in testing for weeks and I felt confident that it should just fix the serious day 1 iOS 8 bugs. No one could ever have predicated the sheer damage it would do.
 
any chance we could see iOS 8.0.2 today?

i know they need to have the fix ready and probably do testing but who knows maybe they have worked all night and have the fix ready and completed testing and its ready to go? small chance?
Theres certainly a chance.
 
Well that's what happens when the guy usually in charge of live footage and web streams is now also active with the iOS team :D

I always wait a few days before upgrading
 
It's not a data centre, it's a phone. I personally have never had a patch that has knocked out my cellular service before. I can live with busted apps or glitches, but to wipe out the core function of a phone is unheard of. I updated because I didn't think it could do this much damage.

Also, it's supposedly been in testing for weeks and I felt confident that it should just fix the serious day 1 iOS 8 bugs. No one could ever have predicated the sheer damage it would do.

You said it was business critical, treat it like it is then and never assume that any patch will work. This applies to ANY device not just servers/desktops etc. Remember that regardless of how much you love a company NONE of them are 100% perfect.

Also, iOS 8 has been in testing for weeks and it still has bugs on release. How would this make you confident that the first bug patch would be bug free? Plus not every iPhone 6/6plus was broken by this patch which explains why Apple were caught on the hop.
 
Looked this AM and did see the software update showing on the phone.. dodged that one... good thing I decided not to update the 5 right away...
You would have been fine with the 5 most likely as most were.
 
If it truly were a vital business tool for you then you wouldn't have updated in the first 60 minutes of a patch being available. Unless you have a system that is already broken and requires a patch to fix it you NEVER update business critical systems until you have either tested it or let someone else test it first.

Even if you were desperate for the new update you should always carry out a backup prior to upgrading as you can never be 100% sure that you won't have a technical issue or even act of God which will Bork your kit.
I thought Apple just works.
 
Really? The world will not end because you don't have a cellphone
And yet people's lives won't be the same as they usually are for that time. The world doesn't end for most things going on yet people still have to deal with them nonetheless and not just accept them and move on.
 
Wow

What happened to Apple's quality control? I mean seriously they have far less products and models than almost any other company in their markets and can't roll out a new OS or device without headaches. It's not like Android or Windows where there is almost an infinite amount of combinations of hardware and service providers. Apple needs to invest some of its billions in some enhanced quality control and basic smoke testing of new hardware and software.

I mean the performance issues of iOS 8 on older iDevices was trivial, Apple should NOT have released iOS8 until a few more months of optimization and tests on older products. I know people would complain about not getting iOS 8 on their iPhone 4 right away, but more people would appreciate Apple investing a little more effort perfecting it for older hardware.

Now they issue a patch a few days after launch and it breaks a major feature of why people have phones in the first place?!

Also it is clear that Apple has to stop pushing these patches and switch to an on-demand system. A LOT of people are reluctant to install new Apple OSes these days because of the quality control issues, its getting about as bad as Windows for people wanting to avoid .0 of any new OS update. But Apple forces the download onto your phone and while you don't have to update, it just sits there taking up space, tempting you, and if its pushing every incremental patch on top of the major update, that just robs your device of storage.

Between the bending issues with iPhone 6, iCloud insecurity and iOS 8 headaches, I am clearly ready to wait a few months for this to work itself all out, probably by then there will be a new Android OS version and flagship phone that will keep me on that platform until at least iPhone 7.
 
Next few days? Is this some sort of joke? An emergency fix should have been issued within hours at the very latest.

Disgraceful.

Well, then you run into the same problem... Not thoroughly tested. Who knows what else might have been broken because of the "fix"... I think this time they'll make damn sure it's going to work right before releasing it.
 
You said it was business critical, treat it like it is then and never assume that any patch will work. This applies to ANY device not just servers/desktops etc. Remember that regardless of how much you love a company NONE of them are 100% perfect.

Also, iOS 8 has been in testing for weeks and it still has bugs on release. How would this make you confident that the first bug patch would be bug free? Plus not every iPhone 6/6plus was broken by this patch which explains why Apple were caught on the hop.

I was not installing a major version of iOS, I was installing a simple update that I've done dozens of times before.

Users should not be blamed for updating their phones anyway! A patch should work.

I also noticed that iPhone 5 users said there was no issue after the 8.0.1 install so I went ahead thinking it was safe. Why wouldn't I?
 
Hmm, while they're at it they can add camera roll again, please.

I'd like a clear separation of all those thousands of photos synced to my iPad via iTunes and the few I take on iPad and the Photo Stream that just happens to be all thrown into a Recent album and that's it. (Sorry, Moments isn't cutting it for what it's supposed to be and not for narrowing down by criteria of where the photo is coming from/is stored)


Good Lord...

Glassed Silver:mac

Roll back to iOS 7.1.2 while you can so you can manage your on phone / off phone photos easily…otherwise I wouldn't count on camera roll coming back. JMHO...
 
Apple are getting sloppy - their brand/image is in danger if this trend of hardware and software issues continues. And they are reliant on the quality perception surrounding their brand, or they will just end up like any other hardware manufacturer.
 
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